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02-03-2010, 04:09 PM #1Registered User
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- Feb 2010
Help, fritschi freerides killed my Prophet 100s. I need advice
So, I switched out my look PX 12's for fritschi freerides on my Prophet 100's and now turn initiation sucks! I've discovered that if I unhook the heals and ski alpine style the skis come back to life which leads me to believe that it is a flex problem (torsional?) and the freerides have stiffened up the skis. After searching this forum though I've found that some people have suggested changing the ramp angle with shims but I can't find any direct answer as to whether this works (anyone here try this? does it work well?). Also, my boots were slightly to large for the small size (305, max is 300) so I went with the medium, as such, the heal clampping point is a good inch and a half behind my actual heal, could this be cause the problem? As I see it I have several options:
1) Try to adjust the ramp angle with shims (I'm really skeptical that this will fix the problem because it doesn't explain why the skis come back to life when I unclip the heals).
2) Take a dremel to the heal pins to create more room between them and the heal clamps to allow the skis to flex naturally (ie simulate the effect I described above but with the heal clamps locked in place).
3) Remount the skiis more forward to try and make turn initiation easier at the sacrifice of stability and powder performance (if I do this how much should change?).
4) follow this tutorial and shorten the length of the bar so that it is closer to my heal, hopefully allowing more flex.
Has anyone else had this problem with their fritschis and prophets (or similar ski)? If so, how did you fix it? would you recommend any of the steps above?
Thanks for your help!
02-03-2010, 04:11 PM #2
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02-03-2010, 09:49 PM #4
freerides killed my ski day today fuckin torsion screw
02-03-2010, 10:05 PM #5
remove toe shim.
02-04-2010, 10:22 AM #6
are you on the freeride or FR+?
02-04-2010, 11:31 AM #7
My recommended fix is to get new bindings and research them before you buy. Didn't you know they would ski like sh*t?
02-04-2010, 12:18 PM #8
Make sure the boot center is the same as it was with the Alpine bindings.
I have a 6mm shim under the entire heel unit to match the ramp angle of my alpine bindings- seems to improve performance for my finicky taste.
The fact that they ski better when the heel is unlocked sounds like nonsense. There is no static fix to the heel of a freeride- flex them with your hand and watch the back of the binding move in relation to the bar holding the heel piece.
02-04-2010, 12:40 PM #9
I'm just going to incorporate by reference my answer in your other, identical thread:
[ame="http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184127"]Help, fritschi freerides killed my Prophet 100s. I need advice[/ame]
02-04-2010, 12:50 PM #10Registered User
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- Mar 2009
- Aspen, Colorado
One has to remember that these are touring bindings, and there will be some compromises. They are a great binding though. I would definitely ditch the front shim and possibly raise the heel. I have not done it on mine yet.
My main complaint as far as skiing this binding goes is the lateral slop. The stack height and plastic construction allow my ski to roll a little flatter than the boot angle on HARDPACK. On corn or powder they are great. The low stack height of my Dynafits and the rigid toe pins make for a rigid setup that really carves on the hardpack. The only times either ski is on hardpack is when I ski down the resort after skinning up for fitness. I would not ski either ski binding riding the lifts, but many do.