Thread: DPS Wailer 112RP (aka my wallet is in for a beating)

Glad to see that video. It appears that young chargers can put the 112's through their paces and they deliver. I have pushed the 112's as hard as I can and have not found them wanting in any way. I thought it was because I had mellowed in my old age! They really are about perfect for my needs.

If I could only have one pair of skis, and I didn't kill myself because I found myself in such a situation, I'd be on 112s. Every time I'm not on them, I wish I was.

Originally Posted by Andyski

If I could only have one pair of skis, and I didn't kill myself because I found myself in such a situation, I'd be on 112s. Every time I'm not on them, I wish I was.

^^^QFT.... the rest of my quiver is sitting unused... A guy asked me about mine in the lift line yesterday and says " Don't they delaminate all the time? " and I said..." yes...but the delamination only makes you love 'em more and it helps with the "air turning" technique by providing directional control like flaps."

Originally Posted by Scotsman50

^^^QFT.... the rest of my quiver is sitting unused... A guy asked me about mine in the lift line yesterday and says " Don't they delaminate all the time? " and I said..." yes...but the delamination only makes you love 'em more and it helps with the "air turning" technique by providing directional control like flaps."

Plus, the skis have so much energy you really have to work on your air turns because you will be in the air about 100% more than you were on your previous skis. That's my experience, anyhow. (Accidental cliff drops not included in that statistic.)

Originally Posted by marshalolson

112 stoke:

Makes me wish i got more than 7 days on my 112RP's this year. Hoping next year i can really test them out

This is a public service announcement. As of today I am selling DPS demos in Whistler. PM me for the list.

PS. PM me your email, of course. Then I can send you the goods. Awesome, thanks.

112 stoke:

Great "McConkey turn" action at 1.39-1.45!

he wailer 112 excels carving across the fall line, be it in pow or on firm. this ski will excel for skier that are more neutral in position, and prefer to round their turns.

That's exactly how I like to ski (ex-mogul basher)...currently on Line Opus 185cm and they work well (lots of pop&energy too, like to make round turns)...but next, I probably like to try something a bit more directional and I guess 190cm lenght would be nice too..hmmmm, "wallet is in for beating?"

DPS releases a new ski - the Wailer 112RPC. Quoting from website:

The RPC (142-115-127) is for skiers that prefer to charge down the fall line, flying through cut up snow and crud in addition to powder. Available in a 192cm length, and only in Pure Carbon+Nano construction, the RPC features slight camber underfoot with a progressive 20-23m turn radius, lower tip and tail rocker, and enhanced SS dampening.

“It’s an RP, and features DPS’ Paddle Tech Geometry™ which made the 112 such a great ski, but the RPC is designed to ski more in the fall line and with more speed,” notes Marshal Olson, Retail Sales Manger for DPS. “The RPC gives up some of the 112 RP’s hard snow carving performance and versatility in exchange for enhanced crud busting and speed through powder.”

Combined with DPS’ powerful yet lightweight carbon construction, this unique shape will allow skiers to surf powder in the morning, then charge leftovers all day as they sniff out stashes.

The Limited Edition Wailer RPC will only be available during the Dreamtime Preorder: July 19 – August 1, 2012. Quantities are limited and early purchase is recommended.

Link: http://www.dpsskis.com/ski/wailer112RPC

I'd like to hear Marshal weigh in on why a stiffer and flatter ski will give up hard snow carving performance. Seems counterintuitive to me. But hey, I don't build 'em.

^ I think the reason it gives up hard snow carving is that the RPC is slightly fatter under foot (115) and has a larger sidecut radius(20-23) vs the RP which is 112 under foot and 15-18 sidecut. So the RPC would be slightly less carveable in comparison to the RP.

hey dad!

there are a few variables here: radius, flex pattern and rocker height.

RADIUS:
the tighter the radius, the more the ski can be skied at high edge angle on firm snow with a powerful stance (see slalom racing - rounding across the fall line).

a larger radius, at the same speed, in the same terrain as above, will require a lower edge angle and the more neutral stance to help release the tail across the fall line (basically where the "carving performance" comment comes from).

alternatively, you can keep the same edge angle and stance, and carve DOWN the fall line at much higher speed, but pull fewer g-forces across the fall line. in order to fully round a turn with a larger radius ski (such as the RPC vs. the RP) you must be skiing at very very high speeds, and must be able to put very large forces into the edge to bend the ski and round a the turn (see GS racing - carving down the fall line, and spending as little time crossing the fall line as possible, except for instances of massive power and skill).

ROCKER HEIGHT / FLEX PATTERN:
the rocker height itself is irrelevant to firm snow carving, as long as the shape and flex thru "the paddle" (i.e. the transition of sidecut, flex pattern and rocker @ the end of the effective edge and beginning of rocker line) remains the same (which the RP and RPC do share).

the flex thru the body of both skis is similar (and realistically super stiff compared to most). On the RPC, the tail beyond the rocker line is lower and stiffer than the RP, to give more platform and tracking in soft snow compared to the looser, surfier feel that the RP generates with higher tail (and tip) height.

Makes sense. Thanks.

Good description by Marshall!...

A little DPS vid describing the Wailer 112 RPC (with cameo appearances of Marshall and Stephan for those who don't know what they look like)..


https://vimeo.com/45815886

Think DPS was trying to get the RPC's shipped right after the sale-anybody get theirs or fondled?

Originally Posted by otto parts

Think DPS was trying to get the RPC's shipped right after the sale-anybody get theirs or fondled?

All pre-orders were being shipped from China together. I believe they should be arriving this week...

Originally Posted by otto parts

Think DPS was trying to get the RPC's shipped right after the sale-anybody get theirs or fondled?

they are set to begin shipping pretty quick. i am not sure exactly, but in 10-15 days i believe.

the RPC is sick. super stoked for folks to post their impressions.

This thread is the reason I bought these skis. Thought I would contribute by posting a photo of my hybrids with the Salomon Guardian bindings. The are a large (boots are 306bsl) on a 184cm mounted at +1.5.

I have only spent 1 morning on them in hard-packed conditions, but the skis carved fine, and the bindings felt like regular bindings (just heavier). I didn't get a chance to tour on them.

As an aside, I also have some Cassiar hybrids which I picked up in the recent DPS demo sale, and for the Australian conditions, they are absolutely fantastic - probably the best ski I have been on for Aus. Going from the 112RP in the morning to the Cassiar in the afternoon was like going from a top end SUV to a top end sports car (think Porsche Cayenne to a 911).

Originally Posted by marshalolson

the RPC is sick. super stoked for folks to post their impressions.

I bet they are!

Don't know if I should be holding my cash money for a shorter RPC? Short skinny cone head inbreds like me like some C in their RP as well.

Originally Posted by marshalolson

they are set to begin shipping pretty quick. i am not sure exactly, but in 10-15 days i believe.

the RPC is sick. super stoked for folks to post their impressions.

My new Pure DPS 112RP @178cm were just delivered to my house in Seattle today (August 21, 2012). I ordered during the Dreamtime Preorder, and got the special edition colors, grey with a yellow stripe. They arrived beautifully packed in bubble wrap and airpouch.

The topskin, which is textured, is almost like an "orange peel" surface. It is different from my original yellow DPS 112 RP's topskin, which was a smooth glossy surface.

I decided to go from a 168cm to the 178cm for this season. The 165's were just too short for the deepest days. Although the short length really made me stand up and keep an even balance. I'm 5' 5" and 145lbs.

I'll be mounting these up either with Dynafit or Plum bindings to go with my Dynafit TLT 5 boots.

^^^^^^^^ pics please sir.

Here's a shot of the new topsheet finish.

Looks very Stockli.

Different look from DPS. I kinda like it.

My wife's new Yvette's Pure's arrived last week and they have the same NEW top-sheet material. It's classy as fuck and feels really nice...has a sort of texture on it compared to the old top-sheet material.
I must admit to wondering if it will be better or worse at trapping snow on the top....but I'm sure the DPS guys figured that out and that it won't... AT LEAST I HOPE SO!!

I got a lotta brownie points for buying her these and I think this investment will pay off for me in the long run as she's not going to be able to complain about me buying expensive skis in the future which was my devious plan from the start.!