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Thread: Solitude Expansion...
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11-25-2009, 05:31 PM #26....................
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Originally Posted by skifishbum
Happy thankgiving D.
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11-25-2009, 06:09 PM #27
they have been eying this for years
wolvie is next.
calling many things in both canyons BC is a stretch..
be interesting how they manage this...
and I cant wait for both sides to exagerate and take completely assinine stances ignoring the middle ground that could work here.
funny how many people who are against any expansion in UT, etc point to the wonderful Euro model.
love to see all 4+ canyons linked with minimum lifts and maximum touring options
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11-25-2009, 06:15 PM #28"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
"I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
"THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
"I have posted in here but haven't read it carefully with my trusty PoliAsshat antenna on."-DipshitDanno
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11-25-2009, 06:24 PM #29Registered User
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I've been skiing Silver Fork for 35 years without a lift. Seems to work just fine.
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11-25-2009, 06:32 PM #30
of ccourse and you know I agree,
but BC to me is real touring and quiet
the numbers up and around BCC my last few years were blowing my mind
& HELL
the way morons are charging out inot the side country these days I think this may save a few lives in the long run
\odd to see DD referred to as resort owner
I too miss the old A frame days...
hell I miss the old Inn days
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11-25-2009, 06:46 PM #31Mind the Wind.
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A step closer to the Flagstaff-Solitude connect. A lift up Grizzly just wouldn't be enough...
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11-25-2009, 06:48 PM #32User
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11-25-2009, 06:57 PM #33
^^^ I tried I got him to booter up for some goods a few times but Dude loves to ski and rips following him and trying to emulate his style made me a better skier.
"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
"I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
"THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
"I have posted in here but haven't read it carefully with my trusty PoliAsshat antenna on."-DipshitDanno
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11-25-2009, 08:26 PM #34
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11-25-2009, 08:34 PM #35
I can buy into arguments on both sides of the issue here. However, the long term reality is that the Valley population is going to continue to grow. I'm not a proponent of growth for growth's (or profit's) sake, but regardless of the reasons for it, that is the reality. LCC resorts are already crowded, and whether it's true now or not, Soli & Brighton will eventully be crowded as well. Expansion will happen at some point in the future, as the arguments for it will only get stronger. Do you allow expansion on adjacent property or allow a new resort somewhere else?
The best option is probably to grant some type of expansion now with strong limitations on future expansion agreed upon by parties on both sides of the transaction.
I see a lot of arguments made by opposers stating that there is already enough ski area development and the existing undeveloped area should be protected for everybody's use/access. Seriously? Be honest: a lot of you really just want to preserve the convenience of having ample hike to terrain 30 mins from your doorstep. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, just quit trying to pass it off as some holy crusade to save the wilderness. The fact that the acres available per BC skier is exponentially greater than the acres available per resort skier is a hard one to gain sympathy for outside of the choir, so find a better one.
There are enough defensible reasons to oppose development. Some of you need to grab on to one that is a little less self serving.
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11-25-2009, 08:44 PM #36
What's most ironic about all this is that the canyons are supposedly WATERSHED. So, if you have enough money, fuck all that. But if I bring my dog in the canyon, then that's a Class B Misdemeanor, $1,000 fine, 6 months in jail.
Funny shit, pun intended.
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11-25-2009, 09:21 PM #37
Where can our voices be heard? Enough with the expansion, I vote for contraction!
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11-25-2009, 09:21 PM #38
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11-25-2009, 09:25 PM #39
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11-25-2009, 09:57 PM #40
Can we focus on stopping the Mormon expansion first.
Or give them Jer on a permanent basis. That would be fair.
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11-25-2009, 10:00 PM #41
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11-25-2009, 10:05 PM #42
It's not about being against expansion or having a wilderness experience(at least for me). A lift in there makes about as much sense as the new Powderhorn lift does. I would bet most of you wanting this lift don't even know what it looks like back in SF.
Hell, I am a seasons pass holder at Soli(so in theory I would benefit as much or more so than you,but don't see the benefit) and I like touring and I think this is stupid
Like Sfotex said, the only people to benefit are the people that are going to charge you more for tickets and you fuckers that are to lazy to traverse/hike for a shorter time that it takes you to wait in the lift line at your beloved Alta!
Why would there be a need for more terrain when it already takes quite a bit of time for them to open the terrain they already have and then keep it open until they close for the season(not counting control work)! And this isn't a knock on the snow safety crew, those guys are top notch!
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11-25-2009, 10:20 PM #43
sorry trackhead, It doesn't keep the retarts out^^^, just the good green.
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11-25-2009, 10:20 PM #44
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11-25-2009, 10:24 PM #45
I've got a pretty good idea what it looks like in Silver Fork, which is why I can't fucking wait for the lifts to be built.
I'm probably your "typical" resort skier. I'm not big on hiking for hours for a few turns, I like spinning laps. Like it or not, there are a lot more of us "resort" skiers than the BC hardcores. Like it or not, we also pay the bills for the industry. Like it or not, the "industry" is indeed what it is.
Resort skiing keeps a lot of people working in this state, as such it will always trump any other uses in the canyons. Remember the vacant lot you used to play in as a kid, or the forest around the corner? If you're like most people, those lots or forests are now houses or lost to what you remember them as. Such is life, capitalism will move forward.
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11-25-2009, 10:41 PM #46
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11-25-2009, 10:44 PM #47
Is that really me FKNA I was slaying it that day.
I'm sure one of these blackdot scrubbing bubbles is a maggot
If you only ski in places that have lifts you're sure missing some amazing/skiing and places.
On theother hand nothing makes you a better skier than skiing lifts alow you to ski more."When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
"I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
"THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
"I have posted in here but haven't read it carefully with my trusty PoliAsshat antenna on."-DipshitDanno
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11-25-2009, 10:45 PM #48
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11-25-2009, 10:46 PM #49
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11-25-2009, 10:46 PM #50
^^^ If you have a 'pretty good idea' then you know it is a bunch of short shots with a long run out. And you are going to have to traverse all over the fuck anyway. And the Meadows are fucked as soon as the sun pops out. And you would also know that it doesn't take 'hours for a few turns'. Keep spinning your laps, no one begrudges you that. I like it too, that is why I also have a pass. Not comparing numbers of skiers on resort or bc side of things and personally could care the fuck less about that shit. The resorts will still 'pay the bills for the industry' and won't go out of business because they don't have a lift in Silver.
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