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    Volkl back in Germany?

    heard from a guy who visited the Volkl factory that Volkl is producing 400'000 pairs back in their big german factory.

    Does anyone know why they left the chinese-K2 factory? or is it just the carving-production which is back in germany?
    (but they guy told me, that he saw freeride-models, too).

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    Grizzly, AC50 = made in Germany

    Gotama, and I'm pretty sure Katana and Mantra = made in China
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    aren't the mantras still made in germany? As far as i know they were last year.

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    Not 100% sure, but Katana and Gotama are made in China. It wouldn't really make sense to manufacture those in China and Mantra in Germany.
    "My policies are based not on some economics theory, but on things I and millions like me were brought up with: an honest day's work for an honest day's pay; live within your means; put by a nest egg for a rainy day; pay your bills on time; support the police." M. Thatcher (RIP)
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    might be the samples that are made in germany?

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    there once was a thread about the serial number and the place of manufacture. I'm too lazy to search.

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    my friends 08/09 mantras are made in germany

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    mantra = Germany
    Gotama = China

    it does not matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zo View Post
    Most Volkl's are still made in Germany. Only the ones everyone around here are into are made in China, ie. Kuro, Chopstick, Katana, Gotama...
    ^^^^ Volkl never left. My 08-09 Mantras say, "Made in Germany," as do all those carvers that euros and rental shops love. Hard to fathom, but Volkl's U.S. sales of fat skis may not be the most pressing thing on their minds...

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    Germany >>>>> China

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    Earth >>>>>> Uranus.

    Skis made in China are no less or more prone to defect due to manufacturing tolerance then they are made in Germany.

    Ski design, specification, materials, layup, etc is specified by product managers and engineers. Specifications/bill of materials come from the same place and are administered to the manufacturing plants.

    You may like the idea that a pair of skis came from one place better then another, however the fact is, it doesn't mater. The reality is however that it's a romantic notion based on perception.

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    The german volkls are made by elves.
    Quando paramucho mi amore de felice carathon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond View Post
    ^^^^ Volkl never left. My 08-09 Mantras say, "Made in Germany," as do all those carvers that euros and rental shops love. Hard to fathom, but Volkl's U.S. sales of fat skis may not be the most pressing thing on their minds...
    The economics of domestic production of a domestically sold product may play a role as well. Shipping, duties, time to market, etc. The US is an import market for them no matter where the skis originate.
    29 days 2013-14

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    Quote Originally Posted by irul&ublo View Post
    The german volkls are made by elves.
    I thought Volkl employed German prisoners to make their skis...
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    They have socalized healthcare up in canada. The whole country is 100% full of pot smoking pro-athlete alcoholics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlpenChronicHabitual View Post
    Earth >>>>>> Uranus.

    Skis made in China are no less or more prone to defect due to manufacturing tolerance then they are made in Germany.

    Ski design, specification, materials, layup, etc is specified by product managers and engineers. Specifications/bill of materials come from the same place and are administered to the manufacturing plants.

    You may like the idea that a pair of skis came from one place better then another, however the fact is, it doesn't mater. The reality is however that it's a romantic notion based on perception.
    you are 100% incorrect.....sorry you lose.

    Germany >>>>> China

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    Prove it...

    And no, I don't loose.
    I win because my response actually provoked you to make the generalized response above that you can't began to substantiate.

    Sorry, I know different, understand the process have seen that results and subsequent statistics.

    You don't know what you don't know.
    Sad for you.

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    I know everything....keep believing the farce that china makes as good of products as other countries. I mean they make great pet food, baby formula, and drywall....so why wouldn't their skis be just as good? Purchase all the chinese crap you want at walmart etc, I'll prefer to purchase higher quality items.

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    Jebuz d00d CTFO.
    Talk about comparing grapes with water melons.
    Now you are making generalizations that just make you look dumb.
    It's just laughable (not the lead in baby food part, toys, etc. that's just wrong, should never happen, from any country).

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    Some guy came into the shop today irate about the chinese volkls, but still stoked on the german stuff. If you dont want to support china, dont buy volkl. Even if you buy a german ski, you are still paying into a company that is made in china.

    There are plenty of in country brands now that are making a solid product (maybe even better than volkl considering the warranty rates last year). Do yourself and your checkbook (euro exchange=^^^^$$$) and buy from ON3P, Moment, PMGear, etc.

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    Well they are both fruit...whats your point? you just wait....soon they will be choppin chinese heads off for faulty skis containing lead and other hazardous materials

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    Whatever.
    And thanks for proving my point.
    You know everything.
    Short memory on my behalf, my bad.

    This is a thread in tech talk, discussing where skis are manufactured.
    Skis. Not baby formula, toys, etc.

    If you want to discuss trade imbalance, human rights issues, bad substances finding their way into the manufacturing of products, start a thread in the padded room. In reality we don't really have an argument about that topic in general. I personally shun Walmart and cheaply made goods that come from overseas manufacturing whenever it makes sense. I prefer to purchase locally grown and or produced goods as often as possible supporting the local economy, that's a choice I make.

    As Single mentions, if you don't like that a company sends some of it's production to China, then don't buy their products. Regarding the conversation of warranty, what's important is how the company stands behind their product, in my experience Volkl steps up and stands behind their product. PM gear had it's fare share of warranties as well, and Pat stepped up. Too soon to tell for Scott and ON3P, though I'm pulling for them and hope things work out well.

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    back to my point Germany >>>> china

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrubadub View Post
    back to my point Germany >>>> china
    I've never had good chinese food in Berlin
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    Have you had good German food in shanghai?

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    Idunno. I love the taste of most most spring rolls that I have purchased in Germany.
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