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Thread: Chopstick EHP comparison
11-05-2009, 08:13 AM #1
Chopstick EHP comparison
Yes I've searched and yes I've read but still looking for a little more specific info. I have wanted a new fun pow ski for the last few seasons and been checking out my options. I am 5'10" 170 pounds ski fairly aggressive like open faces, tree skiing, no skiing switch in the pow, and long walks on the beach. I tend to make a few more turns than just straight lining and enjoy being able to vary my turn shape.
Last year I demoed some "fun shapes" up at Schweitzer in a huge storm, specifically I demoed the JJ's, and Chopsticks. I loved the way the JJ's slashed, pivoted, and were easy to turn. I felt like they were a good balance for me in that I could push them and arc some bigger turns higher on the mountain and also tree bash some tight lines lower down the mountain. Like has been mentioned in other reviews on the JJ's they were just fun, and personally fit my style well. The Chopsticks on the other hand for me were great on open faces, tons of float but I had trouble making as many turn shapes, they wanted to do medium radius turns all the way down. Getting them in the trees it was harder for me to slash from one turn to the next, and in comparison to the JJ's were just a chore to turn.
That brings me to my current dilemma, been reading reviews on the 4frnt EHP's and from the sounds of it people who like this ski really like it, good balance of charging and having the smear/slashability I want in a resort pow ski. Really from reviews it sounds awesome and it does exactly what I would want; open it up on bowls on deep days and be able to duck into the trees on the day after kind of days, and in that regard it sounds similar to the JJ. But looking at the specs, which I know don't always tell the whole story, the EHP has very little side cut and a 30ish m turning radius which is similar to the specs of the chopstick.
However I know different skis work for different people so I was going to see if I could get a comparison to a ski I like in the JJ and one I dont in the Chopstick. Does anyone have any insight, does the EHP feel more like a Chopstick or more like a JJ?
Yeah I know we talk to much about this techy stuff but right now I'm dreaming of pow and this helps pass the time. Thanks for any insight!
11-05-2009, 08:33 AM #2
It's not a charger, from what I understand, but if you liked the JJ, I think you should have a look at the 4frnt CRJ. Marshal really liked them as a playful powder ski.
I hand flexed them and the EHP... the EHP is a fairly stiff ski and has a short early rise tip and a short rockered tail section. The CRJ has similar dims but the tip and tail rocker are longer and softer and it has a smaller turning radius / shorter effective edge. It's still mid-stiff under foot.
11-05-2009, 08:41 AM #3
I've been wondering the same thing. The reviews of the JJ put in the "super versatile" category but you don't hear many people saying it's a charger.
EHP - Know for charging. Though it is straight, it can slash really well I think. i was surprized how quick it could turn if you wanted it to. I haven't skied the JJ's but hope they charge big lines.
Anyone been on both? Does the JJ charge like EHP?
11-06-2009, 10:16 AM #4
Chopstick has a symmetrical sidecut (tip and tail same width, same taper) which is great for switch in pow, not great for pretty much everything else. Unless you really liked the feel I would stay away. I haven't had a chance to ski the JJ yet, but a bunch of friends have them and love them. I have EHP 193s (last year) and they are great skis, you can slash at speed, but they are not great low speed tree skiing skis in my experience. The 179/186 are probably better, but the JJ would be more nimble (and softer/lighter).