Would you let your wife/girlfriend/SO do Girl/Girl Porn?

[Huckin eh?]

I would encourage!

[woodstocksez]

Asshole.....

Why you hatin' on brownies?

[Tye 1on]

Why you hatin' on brownies?

you bake 'em, i bet she'll try 'em!

Awesome thread. "Take that with a pinch of hot girl ass" is sigworthy, at minimum!

[RootSkier]

(strangers paying to watch)

You pay for porn?


JONG!

[rideit]

Why you hatin' on brownies?

You more a fan of the 'rainbows', eh?


Fish, duh

[Steepdeepnlong]

Posting my early, albeit way more feminist objection than i'd like it to sound but - just on the basis of using the terms ALLOW / LET???

if I was your girlfriend, I'd say fuck you, if I feel like doing girl on girl porn, I'm gonna do it- it's not really your call to make. (STDs not withstanding-safe sex presumed here...you can either get on board or get lost)

wife is slightly different, but not much - you can voice your objections if you have them, and ultimately, she might decide it's not worth risking/affecting the marriage for... but honestly if this is on the table, and you don't have the same views about it.. marriage might need help anyway/be done for regardless. take that with a pinch of hot girl ass.

Are you free some weekend in the near future? Because this post kind of turned me on!

[beaterdit]

Does one of the parties involved have the ititials AR by any chance?

Just wondering.

I would say encourage thogh.

If she wants to do it she autta sew that oat, otherwise it'll likely eat at her and eventually your relationship. Of course if you give your blessing and you're not OK with it deep down, that'll eat at you and eventually, your relationship.

Either way this requires some serious soul searching on both parts. It's the kind of thing that would destroy most realtionship if you really care about eachother IMO.

[jesski]

so at the risk of joining the uber-feminist crowd, and therefore getting berated for such affiliations...

I think a lot of you guys are missing skiguide's point, above, about word usage. (Yes, I get that the brownies comment is in irony, but even still!) The whole approach on this question is way screwed up, IMHO.

That's like a woman asking other women, "how often do you let your bf/so go out drinking for 'guys nite' with his friends?" For either of these questions, I'd have to ask the poster, "how crazy-screwed up is your relationship if it presupposes that one participant in some way has control over the other?!" uh does that concept not scare the socks off anyone else... I mean, red flags. alarms should be going off.


vs. if you had phrased the question, say, for example...

How would you feel about your wife/gf/SO doing girl/girl porn?

Would you be all for it, or would you be against it?
[stipulations, details, etc. as above-mentioned here, or whatever else]



...then you still get the desired poll results, whilst eliminating the whole crazy-controlling thing... just sayin'

[summit]

^^^

If you want to equate extramonogomous sexual encounters viewable by the random public in exchange money as something that is just as much a part of a normal relationship as going out with friends... well that may be fine for you individually but it is FAR from an accepted equivalency for the vast majority of people.

It has nothing to do with party-to-participate being female. It has everything to do with both parties in the relationship happily allowing (in terms of the relationships) it in order for the relationship to continue in a healthy fashion.

So stop obfuscating the point with retarded semantic arguments falsely couched on the feminist ideal.

[jesski]

^^^

If you want to equate extramonogomous sexual encounters viewable by the random public in exchange money as something that is just as much a part of a normal relationship as going out with friends... well that may be fine for you individually but it is FAR from an accepted equivalency for the vast majority of people.

wow. clearly what I meant did not come across in a lucid way.

I don't view these two things as at all the same in terms of normative, usual happenings within a healthy relationship, that would be rediculous.

The extreme example is to shed particular emphasis on the inappropriateness of the word "let" when referencing the actions of other individuals, on the whole.

I'm sure you've come across some guy at some point in your life who talks about his wife/gf/etc "letting him out of the house," or some similar nonsense. My point is that NO part of a relationship should be viewed that way, normative or otherwise.

People, despite the fact that their actions affect those around them, should take full responsibility for their own actions and own decision-making processes.

The way this thread was begun presupposes that it's in some way the guy's decision to allow the significant other to exploit herself... there's something very screwed up about that, imo.

OBVIOUSLY, any normal, healthy relationship would include a discussion process about this idea between both of the relationship's participants, since both would be affected in some way by those actions. But people do things all the time that affect others around them without the "permission" of those other parties... the appropriateness of obtaining consultation of said other parties notwithstanding.

[summit]

The way this thread was begun presupposes that it's in some way the guy's decision to allow the significant other to exploit herself... there's something very screwed up about that, imo.

You viewed as implied general authoritarian control by one side.

I viewed it as presupposing that there are some lines not to be crossed without permission by either side. I made a smaller assumption.

[P_McPoser]

Leave it to summit to make a thread about two chicks getting it on boring and lame.

[summit]

Leave it to summit to make a thread about two chicks getting it on boring and lame.

I'm not the one who keeps bringing up TEH FEMINIZMZ...

So what is your position on this question?

[jesski]

You viewed as implied general authoritarian control

Ok, first off, I never said "general authoritarian," I merely implied that the term "let" implies disproportionate control to one party (which, I still believe, would be/is f**d up)



But clearly all this is my bad for "obfuscating the point with retarded semantic arguments falsely couched on the feminist ideal" in the first place!

Oh, heavens, I suppose the words "let" and "allow" actually have no implication of control whatsoever...

As you said, that was A HUDGE assumption on my part. HUDGE. GINORMOUS. Thanks for pointing out not only its falacy but also its general quantity. Whew, I was so lost.

So, I've learned my lesson... I'll just stop throwing around sensationalist claims as to words' accepted connotations, since you are clearly the (not) expert on exactly what it is that words mean and imply around here. As well as, I see, being the resident (not) expert on the relative size of assumptions.

...that is, if you'll "let" me.

[Pow4Brains]

Leave it to summit to make a thread about two chicks getting it on boring and lame.

The voice of reason.

[Phill]

Ok, first off, I never said "general authoritarian," I merely implied that the term "let" implies disproportionate control to one party (which, I still believe, would be/is f**d up)



But clearly all this is my bad for "obfuscating the point with retarded semantic arguments falsely couched on the feminist ideal" in the first place!

Oh, heavens, I suppose the words "let" and "allow" actually have no implication of control whatsoever...

As you said, that was A HUDGE assumption on my part. HUDGE. GINORMOUS. Thanks for pointing out not only its falacy but also its general quantity. Whew, I was so lost.

So, I've learned my lesson... I'll just stop throwing around sensationalist claims as to words' accepted connotations, since you are clearly the (not) expert on exactly what it is that words mean and imply around here. As well as, I see, being the resident (not) expert on the relative size of assumptions.

...that is, if you'll "let" me.

You = Moron.

[Tippster]

Why the fuck did a thread about two chix gettin' it on turn into a Bill Buckley fest?

My wife "lets" me ride motorcycles, go on boys' trips, get high, etc... If she said "I want you to stop because...." I would stop. The difference is that it's tacitly understood by both parties that we're not going to do anything that the other has a possible issue withe unless we discuss it first. That is still giving permission, however.

To claim that permission isn't exchanged on a daily basis in a relationship is silly.

[MMP]

^^right, "Let" in this instance is a shortcut to the extrapolation of the dynamics that would occur if one person in a relationship did something that would displease the other. Economy of words.

[grrrr]

There is more thna one interpretation of the word let. In the case being espoused as the feminist one, the presumption is that the act described is one that one person has a sole choice about, and the question is whether the partner of that person has any control over the partner in question.

I would look at that in a different light. I would "let" you walk out the door to go do said porn shoot. I would also "let" you find out the locks had changed when you got back.

[newschoolerz]

this place is getting dumber than ns.com. for r3eals.

[jm2e]

I think the issue here is twofold.
First, it seems to be unanimous that the fellas here would like to see their ladies spice it up with another xx sweetie.
Second, and thus far not discussed, is the matter of your girl's special places and cheery smiles plastered all over the interwebz. I have yet to see nekkid pics on here that didn't have at least one douchebag dissing the poor girlz. Now how would you react if one day your little dream came true and the next day the collective here is bagging on how your life mate doesn't exactly look like a porn star and meanwhile you can't get out of your head that a buzillion like minded creeps are out there streaming her ass and spraying junk all over their keyboards.

Just sayin. Fantasy is another thing altogether. Sounds juicy.

[jesski]

*Sigh*

I'm sorry, but there really is a very big difference between getting permission vs. general consultation with someone you care about b/c you care how your actions affect them. One approach is based on mutual respect while the other is about "getting away with" stuff.

I think there is a definite distinction between those two things. And I don't think that acknowledging/ pointing out that distinction makes me a moron. On the contrary, I think anyone who blends both approaches in daily practice as "the same thing" is missing an important component of relating to others in a respectful or healthy way.

Really, though, I'll stop screwing up this thread by obfuscating the intended topic, now. I know that all you want to do is debate the pros and cons of girl/girl porn (slash daydream about how things would play out if your so were involved)... so, really, gentleman, please get back to the regularly scheduled programing of nekked pics, der poopenhausen, and my skis are bigger than yours...carry on.

[trainnvain]

page two sucks!!! BOOOOOO!!!

[skiguide]

Really, though, I'll stop screwing up this thread by obfuscating the intended topic, now.

I concur Though I appreciate your backup - and I'm sorry for starting shit in the first place, which was really just for fun - as I really, really am NOT an uberfeminist... if i was, I would have argued porn is degrading to women in general. I'm pro-porn, clearly.

I still think there IS a difference in the tonality of the words though, as one pointed out -

How would you FEEL if... is significantly different.

of course i think this is something you'd have a serious discussion with any spouse, and come to a mutual decision.

I'd venture to say that if this topic is coming up within a couple, in the same way, a discussion of "Should we experiment with the idea of being swingers" might - that it puts you outside the "norm"- and you're going to deal with it differently than the average couple.

[grrrr]

I concur

How would you FEEL if... is significantly different.

See? It's all that Mars-Venus stuff.

Guys - "HELL YEAH, wooh-wooh, bring on the hot girl-girl porn!!!!"

Girls - "Let's talk about feelings."