Thread: Krypton Pro sizes

Since I wear a size 12.5 US shoe, does this pretty much eliminate any chance I have of fitting into a Krypton Pro. I think they only go up to a 29.5 mondo. Can someone recommend a very similar alpine boot which would come in a larger mondo size. Thanks, trying to eliminate shin bang for the upcoming year!

have you shell fit a kyrpton yet? I'd start with that

1) see if it fits (I bet it will)
2) see if it enimilantes the shin bang (It might not)

if solving shin bang is the goal, the 3 p boots work for some people, but they are not the magic bullet for everyone.
if you have to be in a 3p boot, fulltilt makes boots up to size 13 (and again that will be too big, and you should REALLY try some on to make sure they flex well, and are the right size)

Kryptons seem to fit bigger than you'd think, a lot of people donwnsize in them, especially with the ID liner i've found has more room

I wear an 11 street shoe and i'm in a 27.5 Krypton Pro

Do a shell fit and try some on, I think you might be surprised

with the intuition liners you really should size down a full mondo size from what you measure to

Hey Wes, what's the BSL on the 27.5?

A wear a 13 and ski 29 kryptons. I used to run em with intuitons, now just put zipfits in them hopefully to fit my heel/ankle better. They'll fit, but tight, and the real question will be is if your ankles are skinny enough for em.... Really don't ever want to ski a 4 buckle boot again....

Originally Posted by Solesides

Hey Wes, what's the BSL on the 27.5?

316

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I too am a 12.5 freak like you. Krypton runs big. I do the 29.0 Krypton Pro. At first I didnt want to even try on the 11 shell but I listened to a bootfitter and BAM! I like the orig non ID liners. I have had them for going on 3 years and they are delish. Grabbed some 29.5 Garmonts off SAC and they were freaking tiny, now looking hard on the Venom to match the dyna group buy.

Sorry to bump old thread, but it seems relevant.

So i'm in a Lange Freeride 110, they're size 27 bsl 317.


Anyway put about 150-200 days on them, and while they still ski well, they've been punched, grinded, cut, etc. every which way to sunday. I could probably get another season out of them, but they're getting a little sloppy so I'm trying to snag some new boots on the cheap.

Enter the iL Moro's or Krypton Pros.

Given the narrow last, and general positive reviews, I'd like to give them a go, I have a true lange foot with wierd ankles that are hard to get a boot top to contour around, anyway....

I go to the bootfitter today, and tried a 26.5 Krypton Cross (306bsl) (no pros in stock) and a 27.5 in an il moro(316bsl)

I really want to be in a smaller boot than a 27.0...but the cross at 26.5 was on the extreme side, about 2mm of shell fit on my smaller foot, didn't even try my bigger foot, so I slip em on liners socks and all, and even with a full flex were still getting some major toe smash. Granted I didn't have my insoles in the boot, nor had they been molded with a proper intuition or ID liner.

The 27.5 in the il moro shell fit to about 9-10 mm on my larger foot, probably 11-12 on my smaller. Its what you might call an appropriate fit, but given how going smaller on my last two pairs of boots has helped my skiing tremendously, I'm not super psyched.

Also I've heard all the "you can make a small boot bigger" but not "a big boot smaller".

Ideally it would be great if the boot had a bsl of 310 or so and I could get in there right at 5-6 mm of shell fit. So I'm sort of stuck between an extreme small which might work with a good deal of modification and pain, or just settling for the correct size but not necessarily having the worlds snuggest fit and then dealing with the issues of packing out over the course of a 100 day season and feeling like I want more snugness....


Anyone been in this position? I'm not a racer, I would like to go as small as possible.... does 2mm or less just preposterous?

I've always downsized quite bit and that's probably why feet are so f*cked up.
I come from the school of "it's the price you pay" for responsive boots. Right or wrong it's what has always worked. The one time I sized up from this approach I regretted that choice less than 2 months later.
FWIW my street shoe size is 12 and I ski in boots from a 316-318 mm lengths. Lange and Garmont. I will probably try upsizing my next pair of AT boots for more a comfortable fit as long as it makes sense for more comfort and multiday/lengthy touring.
Doing this usually requires extensive shell manipulation and black toe nails until I get them right. Not trying to proof anything just sharing what I've found that works for me.
I'm looking forward to getting into a pair of Krypton Pro's this year.
Since you bumped. I shared!

2mm is SNUG... Keep in mind that if you go Kryp Pro (which I ski in a 27.0), you get the Gold liner, which is a bit thicker and more dense (read: stiffer) than the Silver, which I believe is on the Cross. I can't comment on the fit of the Il Moro - never tried them. One thing that keep things a bit more snug is to not have the liners totally cooked (I just had mine "warmed") -- some might disagree, but I find that cooked liners just tend to pack out a bit quicker. Crushed toes are no fun, and I'm a strong proponent of a good shell fit.

I get cold feet, and I usually ski in MN, which means cold nights. I like to have a little room - too tight = too cold. I usually wear a mid-weight Smartwool sock.

I also ski the Full Tilt Hot Dogger in a 27.0, which is a slightly smaller shell size, but I think that has a little bit to do with the overall boot design. The shell size is 310 I think, vs. a 316 in the Dalbello. Maybe take a look at the Seth/First Chair/Konflict or something like that. Remarkably similar boot. Just a thought. Dalbello basically ripped of Raichle, and Raichle became Full Tilt. My only gripe so far is that the #6 tongue might be a tad soft.

I can't comment on Lange fit - never worn them. I did crush myself into a Salomon in a 26.5 once, but never was very happy with those. I did a Tecnica in a 27.0, and they were sloppy.

Just for reference, I wear a street shoe size 10, or sometimes 9.5.

Good luck.

you go smaller, to get the heel hold, so...

if you can get the hold with a 27, great. if not you need to go
a) smaller in that boot
b) same size (length) just narrower. Krypton is a 100ish last, so look at Full tilt in 27 and see? or a non-3 part boot too.

how is the inside length on the kryptons vs the full tilts ?
I know the bsl on the full tilts run about 3mm shorter in comparison to a similar shell size krypton. Does this translate into 3mm shorter shell on the inside ?

If anybody wants to swap out their 27.5 for a 28.5 Kryptons (I have the cross) and is in Denver area, hit me up.

Originally Posted by slashy

how is the inside length on the kryptons vs the full tilts ?
I know the bsl on the full tilts run about 3mm shorter in comparison to a similar shell size krypton. Does this translate into 3mm shorter shell on the inside ?

Not having measured them, but going off the feel of both, I don't think there's much difference in the inside. Mine fit quite similar. As a matter of fact, I may even have a smidge MORE room in the FT, but hat could be due in part to the liner seeming to be a little less firm than the Kryp's, and I run the stiff board in the Kryp, where my FT's have to softer footboard.

Originally Posted by mntlion

you go smaller, to get the heel hold, so...

if you can get the hold with a 27, great. if not you need to go
a) smaller in that boot
b) same size (length) just narrower. Krypton is a 100ish last, so look at Full tilt in 27 and see? or a non-3 part boot too.

I do love me some heel hold, in fact that's the area that needs constant modification when I get into a new boot...


how much room can be made in a boot length wise, in terms of millimeters fore and aft, obviously that depends on the thickness of the plastic, but is there a general stretch limit....

5mm punch on heel, 3mm on toe (more if you can loose a bit on other places)

grinding is more accurate, and lasts forever, but you can add the material back so make sure it is right.

also, try the new shells, with your old liners, to see how they might feel in a few days.

Originally Posted by mntlion

also, try the new shells, with your old liners, to see how they might feel in a few days.

now there's a great idea.

Size 13 street shoe and I'm in a 29 Krypton Pro. No shell work done, just molded intuition liners.

Most comfortable boot I've ever owned.