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  1. #51
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    good idea...

    Quote Originally Posted by BSS View Post
    It's called refelectix. You can get entire rolls of it cheap at home depot and cut a piece to fit every window.
    good idea.......but its hard to beat the walmart price for precut and edged with ripstop piping for 75cents each on sale. covered all my windows for $4

    Hayduke Aug 7,1996 GS-Aug 26 2010
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  2. #52
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    i'm goin on car/truck/van living for over 7 years now, winters in jackson/summitco were the wurst -- easy out west..
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  3. #53
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    Danny you are professional. Id like to see some pics of your current set up if you got them?

  4. #54
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    Used to camp the first two years of college every other weekend in a old civic. Unbolted the back seat and put a climbing crash pad for the mattress, feet in the trunk and front seats scooted forward. I'd put crap on the backseat floor and my pillow ontop of it (would keep all of that dry). I usually jsut used a 20 degree bad and a comforter or two and was sometimes too hot. I'd bring a few sheets and put them up on the headliner with pins and every morning put the used one up in a ski box to cut down on mositure, but the big thing is really going to someplace warm after skiing to dry out (usually would hit up the Mcdonalds in Mammoth when there and could dry out everything, eat apple pies and read a book for a few hours). I always had to start my car up in the morning, never really came up with a great idea to heat up my boots and they would hurrt like a bitch going on in the morning, but it really wasn't too bad. If you look respectable you can always roll into the hotels and look like your getting ready to ski or waiting for your parents while you sit in the lobby by the fire. Someday I'll have a pimp Diesel 4x4 van. Someday.

  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by hutash View Post
    Don't forget to keep a well marked Nalgene pee bottle handy. It sucks to drink a few beers before bed, and them to have to stagger out into the snow to pee.
    Not as bad as it sucks waking up drunk and dehydrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steepdeepnlong View Post
    If you got a little money to spend, a buck at a laundromat will dry your ski clothes. Or, just suck it up and rent a cheap room.
    The simplicity of the laudry solution great. Maybe enough clothes for 2 days and you'd have to do laundry less often.

    Regardig bags, I agree with most that a wrmer back is a much (just in case) but I would recommed bringing and layering at least 2 bags, and possibly a vapour barier liner. This would create many compinabions of your sleep system that can addapt to the weather you actually get.
    Goal: ski in the 2018/19 season

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    dont forget an inverter

    can be used for many things including boot warmer,battery charger,computer,etc

    Hayduke Aug 7,1996 GS-Aug 26 2010
    HunterS March 17 09-Oct 24 14

  8. #58
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    Some sound advice in here. My tip is don't accidentally fall asleep listening to the radio.

  9. #59
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    Thats why I have an Ipod with speakers.
    Thats been the main highlight to camping in the car.

    I'm interested now to see how I can do. I found a new bag for 99.00 that is a 0*. Much better and really comfy. That mixed with some big sheets of foam and some carpet and I think I will be warm....
    Can't I just put my boot liners in my bag to keep warm?
    The laundamat is a great Idea, I will definatly use that one extent. Then put all my newly dried clothes in a dry bag.
    I think this will work... But the offer still stands on floor space...

  10. #60
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    My least favorite memory of car camping involved my new subi, the truck stop at Revi (5 am check in for heli flight to lodge) and me trying to start my car with locked doors... my car alarm sacred the sh*t out of me!! Not a good way to start my day at 0445!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skibee View Post
    ...and me trying to start my car with locked doors... my car alarm sacred the sh*t out of me!! Not a good way to start my day at 0445!!!
    I've done that too.
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    They have socalized healthcare up in canada. The whole country is 100% full of pot smoking pro-athlete alcoholics.

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    Get an RV CO detector (12 volt). It may save your life. If your heater, stove, or car exhaust tries to kill you, you'll get a warning.

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    Get a good quality sleeping bag or sleeping bag system. You can dry your base layer every night just by sleeping in it. That doesn't work so well with a down bag though. I personally use a Wiggys setup their bags have hydrophobic insulation all your moisture just passes through. Plus with the bag in a bag system you can put your other wet clothes in between the two bags and keep the wet off of yourself. Oh yea and a good pad is key, here in AK its easy to find a parking spot with an outlet that you could use to power a heater but with a good bag and pad setup you should be able to sleep in virtually any temperature inside a car or under it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongShortLong View Post
    Get an RV CO detector (12 volt). It may save your life. If your heater, stove, or car exhaust tries to kill you, you'll get a warning.
    Word...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest_Hemingway View Post
    I realize there is not much hope for a bullfighting forum. I understand that most of you would prefer to discuss the ingredients of jacket fabrics than the ingredients of a brave man. I know nothing of the former. But the latter is made of courage, and skill, and grace in the presence of the possibility of death. If someone could make a jacket of those three things it would no doubt be the most popular and prized item in all of your closets.

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    Are futons easily to get back Stateside? We always had some after living in Hawaii, and thats what I sleep on now in Japan, but I find them comfortable and they can be folded in thirds which can help save space, too.
    パウダーバカ!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongShortLong View Post
    Get an RV CO detector (12 volt). It may save your life. If your heater, stove, or car exhaust tries to kill you, you'll get a warning.
    with a truma heating or webasto this is not necessary.


    btw: in europe all self-camping vans use x-trem isolator. ~20.- for a full isolation. search for: "trocellen x-trem isolator" dont know if you can buy it in america.

  17. #67
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    I picked up this a few months ago for $500

    It's been very reliable this summer pulling the raft trailer around and should be good for snowboarding this winter. I'll heat it with a Mr. Heater Big buddy heater that I'm connecting to the propane system on the van (it has a stove already). There's a small inverter in it now that will run the microwave but I'll replace it before the winter with a larger one to run a coffee maker. I have 2 12v batteries in back for accys/inverter now, but may switch to 2 6v batteries or a 4D for more power. If I like it maybe I'll convert it to 4wd next summer. I was looking for a VW Syncro but they're too overpriced,too underpowered, and too small.
    Who bought Basich's van? It was for sale this spring. It was one of the nicest set ups I've seen for winter camping, I should have bought it
    My favorite Subaru winter camping experience was at a trailhead miles from anywhere. I got up in the morning, took two steps away from the car and I heard the door click closed and lock behind me, "No problem, I have a spare key", then I remembered both were in the car . I managed to get in without breaking any windows

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeS View Post
    I found a new bag for 99.00 that is a 0*.
    FYI, in Dec-Jan, overnight temps in J-Hole and the Teton valley routinely go to the -20 mark by dawn. And nighttime lasts from 5pm till 8am, 15 hours. Every year we see at least one or two weeks when the daytime highs stay single digits. The J-Hole side usually averages 5-10 degrees colder than the west slope. A zero bag won't cut it if you are here during a real cold snap; go to the teepee in Alta if they are still open. $15 for a warm cot, hot shower and a spot to dry your gear is a fair deal when its truly cold. You'll probably spend as much in gas trying to melt off all the rime inside your car each morning.
    Last edited by neckdeep; 10-05-2009 at 09:18 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by refried View Post
    Who bought Basich's van? It was for sale this spring. It was one of the nicest set ups I've seen for winter camping, I should have bought it
    He sold that thing? NOOOO. His parents live 1/4 mile down the road from my folks' place and I used to see him in it all the time around town several years ago.

    Saw him at the pullout to an unplowed (like five-six foot drifts blocking it) Donner Pass Rd. at Soda Springs one time with a sled trailer.

    Me: "Hey Mike. Where you going?"
    Mike: "Well I got a place down the road a ways with a cat in the garage. So I'm going to sled in there and plow my driveway."

    Awesome guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ernest_Hemingway View Post
    I realize there is not much hope for a bullfighting forum. I understand that most of you would prefer to discuss the ingredients of jacket fabrics than the ingredients of a brave man. I know nothing of the former. But the latter is made of courage, and skill, and grace in the presence of the possibility of death. If someone could make a jacket of those three things it would no doubt be the most popular and prized item in all of your closets.

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    Plenty of good advice here already. ++ the scotch, hot water bottle, & dry-off/warm up in lodge suggestions.

    I always just get up to go piss. It takes a while to convince yourself, but then you often see stars or wildlife or something you would have missed. Though that's a lot less relevant in a Wal-mart lot.

    Boot liners in bag works okay until you're trying to stuff them into frozen shells. I've always managed, but it's a lot easier w/tongue boots or something that doesn't have race flex (or snowboard boots I imagine). Most resorts have hot air hand dryers that are pretty key if you're doing it dirtbag style, but make sure you don't re-thermofit your liners or melt your gloves.

    OT, but for non-car, winter camping, if it's really cold sometimes I'll just keep the whole boot on in the sleeping bag. You just want to be careful about how wet your socks are.

    And since I didn't see it, I'll add the obvious old "be friendly to locals on lifts, especially toward the afternoon" options, which isn't age-restricted. I've hooked up and been hooked up this way. The key is to not actually be looking that hard for a place to crash (since you've got your pile of foam and blankets already), but to just let it happen if you hit it off.

    Also, the coffee always seems a bit better after a cold night in the car.

  21. #71
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    sounds like fun - planning a dirt-bag corolla-camping mission myself this winter.

    a while ago (2004?) I spent 2 weeks in the j-hole parking lot, near the front by the mangy moose. at the time you could park overnight, park for free after noon, and I never got hassled. I was in a cargo van outfitted with a forced air rv heater and set up for stealth urban camping. You might get hassled if you are running lights in a car. snow plows were kinda noisy. it can and does get really cold there, but with a little luck you'll not see -20. make sure you ski your ass off so you can sleep long and hard. liners should dry pretty well in your sleeping bag. if you sleep in your base layer it will dry out too.

    I've also slept in cars and I wouldn't worry too much about xtra heaters - they are all heated boxes from the factory. it'd be worth getting your exhaust checked for leaks and maybe putting a thermostat in your cooling system with a higher than std temp rating, which would make your heater run hotter. x2 on the CO detector if your running it while inside for very long. x2 on running it hot while you go get coffee - great way to de-ice your front windows and warm your gear.

    if you are truly dirt-bagging it (in jh) you can ski the pass in the morning then clip a ticket in the parking lot. my friends have clipped tickets as early as 11am from fat tourists. be stealthy and look for people who have day tickets and are racking their skis vs just getting lunch. oh, and have some sort of cutters handy. scrounge the right color zip ties near the ticket window, or if its wire just cut it low. I've used the green pass there too - just look for a hippy checking tickets, tell him/her you forgot your ticket but will they take the green pass? make sure you wrap the nug in foil or something. you can ski quite a bit (but not the tram) without returning to the base.

    not sure about parking in bigsky but the parking folks at bridger are super friendly and could point you to a good spot, although there ain't much up there for food/warmth after 7pm so you'll probably want to head to town. seems like you could camp on any street if you are discreet.

  22. #72
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    looking to do something similar

    damn these are great suggestions. I'm looking to possibly live in my car all winter so I as well am looking for any suggestions especially those pertaining to staying in your car for more than just a couple night.
    so far on my list of necessities:
    -20-(-40) synthetic bag
    MSR stove
    thermo pad
    hot water bottles
    insulation for the windows
    outlet to car adapter
    any other suggestions would be awesome!
    fuck it

  23. #73
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    One thing I have found handy and is safer than one of those gas heater is to use one of those power packs and an electric blanket. I have this one
    http://saletoday.net/onsale.php?asin=B000TKHMWK

    I even have some 2 harbor freight solar panels to charge it http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44768.

    I also have velcro curtains I hang up in the back of my cherokee. Helps to have privacy and they add a little bit of insulation.
    You should have seen Little Jerry, Jerry! Flappin' his wings and struttin' his stuff! He was peckin' and weavin' and bobbin' and talkin' trash! He didn't even have to touch him! The other rooster ran out of the ring.

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    Now thats a quality idea! I would never have thought about that. How many nights can you get using the power pack? How well does the solar panel recharge it??

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    this

    plus this

    equals this

    which means, when you wake up here

    you've lost 3 cases of snake river beer. bittersweet.

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