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07-29-2009, 10:05 PM #26
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Kerry is a FAR bigger tool than McCain ever was or will be...
Kiteboarding, Windsurfing and throwing away Wendy's value meals while getting on a private jet was NOT good campaign strategy...
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
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07-29-2009, 10:09 PM #27
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Kerry did, however, manage to save lives to get honored, then come back and argue against the continuation of a stupid useless war. McCain got famous for hotdogging and getting thrown into prison in Vietnam....
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07-29-2009, 10:12 PM #28CravenurdotterII Guest
At least Kerry went ..........Cheney, Bush, et al were fucking around while the communist threat was ready to topple Amerika.
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07-30-2009, 06:59 AM #29
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Not according to many who served with him. 3 purple hearts in the time period he accumulated them ?? that would have been a national record. He saw military service as a career enhancing opportunity (nothing wrong with that) and when the shit hit the fan he wasn't up to the task. No huge thing there, many aren't. Originally Posted by Tippster
His problem was he tried to paint himself as war hero and then tried to bash his fellow military comrades, then tried to claim the mantel of war hero again when it was politically expedient. Scum bag of the first magnitude.
I'm not sure I'd have gone to VietNam and especially wouldn't have wanted my son cast into that quagmire of a no win situation.
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07-30-2009, 04:46 PM #30
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....and brought his camera crew with him. Originally Posted by CravenurdotterII
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07-30-2009, 06:21 PM #31
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It seems that most can't handle the solutions that RP has. it is a whole different way of conducting business than what the empire is used to, and has been setup to operate as for the last 100 or so years. Originally Posted by Tippster
Its true in that his solutions are so radical that they aren't really solutions because no one in this government would accept them. Greed and power will continue to dominate until it all hits the fan (gee, this has never happened before).
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07-30-2009, 06:22 PM #32CravenurdotterII GuestGood point. I have no love for Kerry, but evn less for Rummy, Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Feith, and the rest of the neo-con chicken-hawks. Originally Posted by Jer
Vietnam? I would have been in Canada. But, shit, at least be somewhat consistent. Instead of sending our kids to die.....why wasn't ol' Dickhead helping 19 year olds get out of having to serve? And "volunteer" is a misnomer for most.....should be termed "last available option for employment"
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07-30-2009, 06:30 PM #33CravenurdotterII GuestRP is actually a man with principles and compassion. He realizes that sound fiscal policy will produce a more responsible citizenry. Instead we encourage irresponsibility with our lax lending standards and loose accounting principles. Originally Posted by AKturnanburn
I don't agree with all his thinking, but he would make us a better people by forcing a responsible set of rules with regards to monetary policy and military adventurism.
I don't know if our gov and corporate struture is bad because we are bad, or vice versa, but there is plenty of irresponsible actions by all parties.
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07-30-2009, 09:02 PM #34
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RP was right on the money. Obama is a fucking moron. That's my point. How can you understand what RP is really about, and possibly support Obama? Originally Posted by CravenurdotterII
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07-30-2009, 09:20 PM #35
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Hey Tipp, if you can't see the solutions that RP has listed in the OP, you need to work on your reading comprehension. Here, let me help you:
"Pursuing the same policy of excessive spending, debt expansion, and monetary inflation, can only compound the problems and prevent the required correction."
Solution: cut spending, pay off the debt, quit printing money like fools.
"Doubling the money supply didn’t work; quadrupling it won’t work either."
Solution: quit printing more money like fucking fools.
"The problem of debt must be addressed."
Solution: create an environment that brings in more money to the treasury, like lowering specific taxes that encourage investment. NOT implementing a tax strategy based on what's some punk ahole from chicago thinks is "fair".
"Expanding debt when it was a principal cause of the crisis is foolhardy."
Solution: Pay down the debt. Yeah, GWB was an idiot and spent waaay too much. So the answer is to spend 4 times as much? Obama and this congress are fucking idiots.
"Excessive government and private debt is a consequence of a loose Federal Reserve monetary policy. Once a debt crisis hits, the solution must be paying it off or liquidating it. We are doing neither."
Solution: DUH
Net US debt is now 372% of GDP. In the crisis of the 1930s it peaked at 301%.
Solution: REDUCE THE FUCKING DEBT
"With no restraint on spending, and revenues dropping due to the weak economy, raising taxes will be poison to the economy."
Solution: CUT SPENDING and lower specific taxes that encourage investment.
"Buying up the bad debt of privileged institutions and dumping worthless assets on the American people is morally wrong and economically futile."
Solution: When banks make bad decisions, THEY MUST FAIL in order to protect the value of our dollar.
"Monetizing government debt, as the Fed is currently doing, is destined to do great harm."
Solution: Quit printing money you fucking idiots.
"In the past 12 months the national debt has risen over $2.7 trillion. Future entitlement obligations are now reaching $100 trillion. US foreign indebtedness is $6 trillion."
Solution: Cut spending and pay down the fucking debt!
"Foreign purchases of US securities in May were $7.4 billion, down from a monthly peak of $95 billion in 2006."
Solution: The world is not buying our bullshit anymore, cut spending and pay down the fucking debt.
"The fact that the Fed had to buy $38.5 billion of government securities last week indicates that it will continue its complicity with Congress to monetize the rapidly expanding deficit. This policy is used to pay for the socialization of America and for the maintenance of an unwise American empire overseas, and to make up for the diminished appetite of foreigners for our debt."
Translation: We have a bunch of fucking socialists in charge, we're fucked. You idiots voted for this, he told you he was going to do this, you didn't believe fox news when they interpreted it for you. We need to pull back and cut our spending and pay down our debt!
"Since the attack on the dollar will continue, I would suggest that the problems we have faced so far are nothing compared to what it will be like when the world, not only rejects our debt, but our dollar as well. That’s when we’ll witness political turmoil which will be to no one’s benefit."
Translation: We're fucked.He had it coming.
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07-30-2009, 10:27 PM #36CravenurdotterII Guest
In all actuality and contrary to rational thought, I believe we might see at least a short term rally in the dollar. This will depress equities and commodities. In a depression/deflation, where all asset classes decline, believe it or not cash is your best position. That's why Gold has shown weakness and never has regained it's former high even in light of massive money supply increase. The debt destruction will outpace the appetite for credit.
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08-03-2009, 07:27 PM #37
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Our dollar is in big trouble:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj0gg3rmpj0"]YouTube - Global Markets -- the truth about the rally[/ame]He had it coming.
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08-03-2009, 07:46 PM #38
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Gold's about 77$ from its all time high. Not exactly a sign of weakness. In fact its pretty much outperformed most asset classes over the past 6-7 years on average. Originally Posted by CravenurdotterII
Silent....but shredly.
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08-05-2009, 02:46 AM #39
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That's the stupidest thing you've ever said, Tipp. The man has written SIX DIFFERENT BOOKS explaining exactly what he thinks we should do. Your failure to understand his message is your problem, not his. Originally Posted by Tippster
http://www.amazon.com/Ron-Paul/e/B001I9TTX6/
Frankly, your pathological fear of responsibility and self-determination is becoming pathetic. Watching you and the other Obamaites grow more and more irrational in defense of your savior as he spies, tortures, continues warmongering, and gives our nation's entire present and future wealth to the banking industry, is just like watching the Bushites grow more and more irrational as W's foreign and domestic policy followed the same path.
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08-05-2009, 03:19 AM #40
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Reports of such lead me to think, "Oh bummer!" Originally Posted by Spats
Oh well, it's best not to set one's hopes upon those who seek high office; it would have been nice if he'd lived up to his promise, but he's only human. If he'd done entirely the right thing, he would have been killed by now (for those ignorant of history, this is how it works, power in this world comes at the cost one's body or soul).
As for Ron Paul, it is easy to be a underpowered idealist, and to tell something approaching the truth, while not really changing the status quo.
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08-05-2009, 07:47 AM #41
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Don't sell me short, Spats - I've said way stupider things. Originally Posted by Spats
Ron Paul's "solutions" aren't workable in the real world. Hint: you cannot merely leave Iraq & Afghanistan, nor can you simply bail on the Fed. Reserve System, without some pretty fucking severe consequences where the "cure" is worse than the ailment.
His insights are as actionable as simply no longer emitting carbon is to fixing Climate Change. It's not simple - it's simplistic, which is why he has absolutely no support other than a frothing fringe. Good luck with that.
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08-05-2009, 10:46 AM #42
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Ron Paul to be on the Alex Jones show at 2pm central today Aug 5, 2009.
http://www.infowars.com/audiobox.html
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08-05-2009, 02:55 PM #43CravenurdotterII GuestYes you can "merely" leave Iraq and Afghanistan. It's been done before. Originally Posted by Tippster
Ron Paul would return this country to some semblance of financial sanity.
Right now the "cure" being perpetrated by the Fed is going to give us FULL BLOWN AIDS.......instead of a mere case of swine flu that we caught from the Wall Street pigs.
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08-05-2009, 04:21 PM #44
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How do you know? Have you tried it? What happened? Did they take your birthday away or something? "Can't" and "won't" are the domian of losers. It's an unimaginative way to just give up. Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No. Break free from your plastic fantastic prison cell, Tipp. Break free. Originally Posted by Tippster
..and Obama's "solutions" are workable in the real world??
Powpig - your avatar sucks. The Joker is cool - don't fuck up his memory with gay political shit.
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