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  1. 03-04-2009, 12:31 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirbumpsalot View Post
    I've cut my restaurant eating by 100% since CA announced the tax hikes. Maybe some construction worker will pick up my slack with my tax increase, but the net at best will be zero.

    Is that nonsense Doucheboyshredder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster View Post
    Yay - another drive thru windowlicker! Welcome!
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    Heh. Shouldn't that be drive-by?

    Heading to your neck o' the woods in 2 weeks, including a day at Alpy with the kids on Sunday the 22nd. Would love to do a parking lot drinky with any of you foos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster View Post
    Heh. Shouldn't that be drive-by?

    Heading to your neck o' the woods in 2 weeks, including a day at Alpy with the kids on Sunday the 22nd. Would love to do a parking lot drinky with any of you foos.
    Bad timing...I'll be elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster View Post
    Heh. Shouldn't that be drive-by?

    Heading to your neck o' the woods in 2 weeks, including a day at Alpy with the kids on Sunday the 22nd. Would love to do a parking lot drinky with any of you foos.
    I should be around. Drop me a pm nearer the time with your plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OSECS View Post
    Where will most of the jobs be created ?? Small business accounts for the majority of employment in the country. If people are secure in their jobs they will probably spend more money, don't you think ?? Every major industry supports many smaller companies who in turn support their employees through paychecks. It's a complete system that doesn't operate in a vacuum. Employment stabilization is key. And why not give support to the largest employer sector in the economy ??

    The jobs will go to the low bid contractor. So it could be a large contractor or a small contractor. A lot of jobs like the ones being moved forward have larger contractors as the prime and smaller contractors as subs.

    Before people can feel secure in their jobs the have to have a job. It sounds like you're advocating for trickle down economics. I would think if large companies got a tax break they'd use the money to make sure the people at the top are secure in ther jobs before they'd try to make the little guy feel secure. A good way to do that is to pay down their debt. Paying off their debt probably won't work as well for job creation as actually funding a project that will produce jobs right now.
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  8. 03-04-2009, 02:54 PM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grange View Post
    The jobs will go to the low bid contractor. So it could be a large contractor or a small contractor. A lot of jobs like the ones being moved forward have larger contractors as the prime and smaller contractors as subs.

    Before people can feel secure in their jobs the have to have a job. It sounds like you're advocating for trickle down economics. I would think if large companies got a tax break they'd use the money to make sure the people at the top are secure in ther jobs before they'd try to make the little guy feel secure. A good way to do that is to pay down their debt. Paying off their debt probably won't work as well for job creation as actually funding a project that will produce jobs right now.
    The rich don't need our help, middle America does (those earning between 35-100k per family). I'm not advocating not trickle down economics here, but rather trickle up and down economics. The middle class is responsible for the most purchases of luxury items (read as buying power as a socio economic group). Job security is a number 1 or 2 primary reason people do or don't spend money. Small business is the largest employer in the nation as a group. I just think getting money into the hands of people who do the most hiring and firing (and stipulating that the money is expressly for new hires) is a good way to get people back to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster View Post
    Heh. Shouldn't that be drive-by?

    Heading to your neck o' the woods in 2 weeks, including a day at Alpy with the kids on Sunday the 22nd. Would love to do a parking lot drinky with any of you foos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OSECS View Post
    The rich don't need our help, middle America does (those earning between 35-100k per family).
    I need my own help.

    I fit that demographic; I'm struggling not due to the economy but to divorce and medical bills. But the "economic recovery" will take money out of my pocket and give it to someone else who is possibly struggling due to poor economic choices, bad investments, or maybe just because they're lucky enough to work for a contractor who gets a recovery gig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grrrr View Post
    I need my own help.

    I fit that demographic;
    I don't fit the demographic, but I'm struggling too because of the shit that's gone down. I don't know if this bill will help me out till long after others are bailed out.
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  12. 03-04-2009, 06:06 PM #37
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    The rich don't need our help, middle America does (those earning between 35-100k per family).
    Me and Mrs. McPole fit in that demographic as well. I'd like to officially refuse any help. We're doing fine all by ourselves. How 'bout we just keep our tax extortion money and the gov leaves us alone? Deal??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    Was your decision to stop eating restaurants based on the 1% state sales tax increase or the 0.25% income tax increase?
    Most likely the 100% of tax refunds (i.e. YOUR MONEY) that CA refuses to give back because they already spent them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spats View Post
    Most likely the 100% of tax refunds (i.e. YOUR MONEY) that CA refuses to give back because they already spent them.
    Can you list the top reasons (in your opinion) why California is bankrupt ??
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