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Thread: Duckfooted - Angle toes out?
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11-21-2009, 07:02 PM #1
Duckfooted - Angle toes out?
Bear with me here, this may be a stupid question. I'm not a stupid person, but i don't know much about skiing.
I'm very strongly duckfooted. That is to say, when i stand, comfortably and naturally and facing north, my feet are angled apart so that my toes are pointing to my northeast and northwest, at maybe 25-30 degrees each. I think pretty much everyone's feet are this way, but usually to a much lesser extent.
My snowboard stance is a little unusual in that it is angled very much like my feet are, much more than a "normal" stance. I've tried to pull my toes in a little bit in the past, thinking a more conventional stance would give me better control and/or performance. It just made me uncomfortable and I would get tired faster.
The other day, i was skinning up a hill and very aware of the fact that it feels very unnatural for me to have to point my toes exactly straight ahead to ski exactly in the skin tracks. I notice this going downhill too, but to a lesser degree.
Would it be crazy to mount my ski bindings a few degrees off of centerline? I wonder if it would make me more comfortable, both up and downhill.
I suppose i'll catch some shit for even suggesting this... but has anyone actually tried it? Maybe it works.
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11-21-2009, 07:20 PM #2
actually its a very good question.
i dont know the answer, but some boots....fisher....were made duckfooted
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11-21-2009, 07:31 PM #3Registered User
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Search, it has been discussed before.
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11-21-2009, 07:37 PM #4
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11-21-2009, 08:27 PM #5
Likely caused by pronation which places rotation on the tibia and upward to the hip. A footbed to get a more neutral position will also remove the rotation making standing with feet straight ahead more comfortable and natural feeling. Or treat the symptom by adjusting the boots/bindings to accommodate the underlying problem.
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11-22-2009, 01:02 AM #6with stoopid
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it's different for everyone, but...
i'm pretty bow legged and duck footed and have some pretty serious pronation going on as well.
i got new boots two years ago and had a custom footbed made with my weight off my feet to put my feet in a neutral stance when I stood up. I could barely do a run without being in terrible pain from the knees down. everything felt cramped and twisted and completely unnatural to me.
switched to a stock footbed, canted the boots inward and leaned them forward as much as possible and had the shells punched out a little in the fore foot to account for the pronation and it's all good now.
but, everyone is different so spend some time with a good bootfitter when you're on the hill.
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11-22-2009, 08:46 AM #7
what L7 said
nordica and fischer make duck boots (similar) and/or get your bindings mounted duck on the skis . fat skis will take this better
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11-22-2009, 09:46 AM #8
Henrik Luthman from Hendryxskis is THE duckstance evangelist. Check out his ideas here. Makes perfect sense in theory and I think I'll try it this winter.
BTW the Völkl Sanouk (Black Topsheet) had a duckstance reference printed along with the bootcenter mark.
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