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  1. #26
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    i have no other skis for comparison. Only have one skin trip to give as testament. And I'm on dukes so I've already excepted the weight thing.

    I have 183 Bros (soft).

    I had them out in very good (IMO) soft snow at Berthoud this weekend. It is simply amazing. I cannot believe I actually even thought about trading these for 179s. They are total beasts. Not soft at all, but not overly stiff. Great for skinning, never felt like they were too heavy, granted I've never been on a lighter setup, but they felt fine. And I'm not overly sore the day after. Need to get em up to speed a little but after that, fuck they're good.

    that being said, if you can afford some DPS, the 105 get amazing reviews, super light, might be awesome setup.
    Do I detect a lot of anger flowing around this place? Kind of like a pubescent volatility, some angst, a lot of I'm-sixteen-and-angry-at-my-father syndrome?

    fuck that noise.

    gmen.

  2. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by samthaman View Post
    i've got 105's with comforts, and i couldnt love them more...PM me if you want more info
    Quote Originally Posted by ski_faster View Post
    My setup is Wailer 95... Overall if you can get a deal on this ski GO FOR IT.
    Thanks for the input, guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by volklpowdermaniac View Post
    I have 183 Bros (soft)...fuck they're good.
    that being said, if you can afford some DPS, the 105 get amazing reviews
    Well, I can't afford 105 wailers, but then again I can't afford new bros. either. The plummet of the canadian dollar is killing me. I should have added to cart months ago when we were at or above par. DOH!
    Re: the 183's, what do you weight in at, if you don't mind me asking?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spats View Post
    AFAIK a lot of modern skis are shaped that way...
    Hey, I did a little googling on this today. As you say, it sounds like a fair chunk of skis now use a "progressive sidecut"- news to me. However, some (karhu) use that to mean shorter radius tip and tail:
    "The more aggressive sidecut at the tip and tail makes the ski quicker in turn initiation and more agile, and the long radius underfoot enhances powerful edgehold with cleaner turn release."
    Others (K2 I think) mean shorter radius tip and longer tail:
    "The solution is to make the sidecut less towards the tail thereby making the ski narrower and also friendlier to ski on because the tail will release more easily—a bonus in crud or powder."
    I couldn't find any like the manaslu, which is long radius tip and short radius tail, which, like I said, sounded odd to me. But really, I know dick about any of this.
    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    ive read your posts and damn you is super informed and opinionated
    can't find the stoke though
    You gots?????

  3. #28
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    I skied the 185 flex 2 wailer 95 yesterday on solisunday. I found it to be a good lively ski, snappy out of turns, no speed limit other than my self imposed not jack myself up early season one. Edges could and will be sharpened, but held through the turn fairly well. Took it into some cut up pow and various zipper crusts performed admirably in those conditions.
    Didn't fiddle around with mount location but will. I'ts been a while since I rode my budda explosives but these skis reminded me of skiing those a lot.
    "When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
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  4. #29
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    not sure what you were asking. I weigh in at 175....5'8,


    the rig 183 soft bros with duke from a lose bathroom scale measurement.

    i weighed in just now at 173.3

    me holding ski: 181.0

    7.7 lbs per one ski with dukes? That doesn't seem right to me, but like I said, its about the most inaccurate means of measuring.
    Do I detect a lot of anger flowing around this place? Kind of like a pubescent volatility, some angst, a lot of I'm-sixteen-and-angry-at-my-father syndrome?

    fuck that noise.

    gmen.

  5. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by volklpowdermaniac View Post
    not sure what you were asking. I weigh in at 175....5'8.
    Yup, that was it, right there.
    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    ive read your posts and damn you is super informed and opinionated
    can't find the stoke though
    You gots?????

  6. #31
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    I'm not sure if you decided yet, but I have 2 seasons on 185 DPS 95 flex 2's. I bought them for skiing in La Grave, which is mostly firm snow couloir skiing. They are perfect for that application, but they also ski groomers fabulously well, and ski powder like any other 95 waist ski that isn't "hookey". I wanted a light weight alpine set-up, and I'm easy on equipment, so I put Z12's on them, mounted 1cm forward. I'm 6'3" 180. They would, (and will, eventually), make a perfect spring BC ski.

  7. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by srsosbso View Post

    You on the softs or stiffs? Like 'em in the pow? Somebody(?) told me they found them stiff in the tip/shovel for soft snow. Did you also try the 179? My current skis are ax4's and mythics in a 178(which are stiffer than the lp's in the same length) and I'm looking for something a bit softer/easier for the BC, but not noodle-fest. I like the ax4's and mythics fine, but sometimes in tight trees/at low speeds they are a challenge.
    Softs. Too stiff: no. Too long: no. I think they're just the right tool for the job. Very durable, very light. I've never tried them in the 179; the 183 is the shortest ski I've been on since aobut 1990, but I've been really happy with their performance so far. Nice compliment to my 200cm Lotus120/Duke setup for BC.

    FWIW: I fluctuate between 190 and 200lbs.

  8. #33
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    Hey, thanks for the input plugboot and fritz, and thanks for the poundage there fritz. You have a good 30-40 lbs. on me.
    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    ive read your posts and damn you is super informed and opinionated
    can't find the stoke though
    You gots?????

  9. #34
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    Pulled the proverbial trigger on the w95's, found on gearswap. Thanks everybody for the input. Review to follow, assuming it ever actually snows here.
    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    ive read your posts and damn you is super informed and opinionated
    can't find the stoke though
    You gots?????

  10. #35
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    I figured it was the pair in gear swap. You'll love them.

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