Thread: krypron i.d. molding question.

The dalbello krypton i.d. comes with a dalbello footbed placed inside the ( intuition ) liner. I read the general consensus is to not use a footbed inside intuition liners.

1.) When ordering an intuition liner direct, do they come with a preplaced / removable footbed inside?

2.) Was the dalbello footbed included just as an option from dalbello, or is this something recommended by intuition to use?

3.) Any krypton users out there recommend keeping or removing this footbed?

I was encouraged by the guy at the shop to get rid of the stock footbed and buy a $100 one from him instead.

I kind of wish I would have saved my $100 and tried molding without a footbed now. Who has tried it both ways, and what do you think?

I have heard that the Krypton liner from Intuition has less foam under the foot, because most people who use that boot use a footbed. Since their is less foam in this intuition liner, it is recommended to use a footbed. HOWEVER..I also just bought this boot and I am wondering the same thing, so if anybody knows for sure what is up, I would also greatly appreciate the info.

Now that you mention it, i remember reading the same thing. The Dalbello footbed that comes with the liner seems a little too hard / curvy to be comfortable for a flat foot.

Remove it. Unless you have serious feet issues you can use a Superfeet bed. For 40.00, it will do the job.

Flexon Phil,

Could you elaborate on why you think it should be removed? I'm new here so I don't know what your history is with Kryptons. The fact that there is less foam underfoot makes me concerned with comfort / impact shock.

There might be less foam (I´m not sure), but any sole you place in the liner will make up for it. There´s also a shock absorbing footbed (cross), or an option to swap between hard and soft (pro).

I use green superfeet in mine. I have heated them twice, and also heated the shell and used my foot to block them slightly, but now they fit great. FWIW.

I had my full tilts cooked yesterday and a custom footbed made. Guy in fanatyk where I had it done said technically you didn't need a footbed in intuition liners, but without one your foot will be unsupported during the moulding process and afterwards. So the consensus was to use a footbed.

The fit is killer, I downsized one shell size and there is still room for my toes to wiggle. Stoked

I use the green Superfeet with mine. Take the footbed out to cook, put your footbed on the bottom of your foot, then the toe cap, then the fitting sock.

if your foot pronates, and you need a footbed (or some type of correction) then you should mold the liner with that in place.

If the boot fits better with a footbed, then mold it with one. If you dont have room for a footbed then without is OK too (as your foot is supported by the shell of the boot a bit)

you can get support 2 ways (at least) 1 is with stuff under your arch (the supportive feel of a footbed) the other way is with a small wedge under the foot or liner on the inside to support the heel bone (think of under boot canting wedge, but for your foot only)

Do what works for your foot and shell fit the best

Originally Posted by Neaps

Flexon Phil,

Could you elaborate on why you think it should be removed? I'm new here so I don't know what your history is with Kryptons. The fact that there is less foam underfoot makes me concerned with comfort / impact shock.

I have 20 or so years in Flexons, most with an Themoflex or ID. I was one of the BEta testers for Kryptons back in 04.

Originally Posted by mntlion

if your foot pronates, and you need a footbed (or some type of correction) then you should mold the liner with that in place.

If the boot fits better with a footbed, then mold it with one. If you dont have room for a footbed then without is OK too (as your foot is supported by the shell of the boot a bit)

I was referring to HEATING the boot w/o the footbed, YES, do your mold with the footbed in it.

So Flexon Phil. I used to ski the flexon without a footbed in a size 27 for a long time. I have now been in 26.5 Tecnica Diablo magnesiums with a surefoot footbed in it that I hate. I just bought the Dalbello Krypton Pro I.D. in a 27 after being shell fitted many times. If I put my foot in them without the stock footbed, I feel like the boot is too big, with even just the stock footbed they are a tight fit...what do you think I should do?

Return them. Boots never "feel smaller" over time.

My main problem is that in a 26.5 I couldn't even fit a finger between the heel of my foot and the heel of he shell of my boot..in the 27.0 I can barely squeeze 2 fingers in there...i is like I am right in between sizes..Go 26.5 and carve some out?

If you're in between sizes, go small and work on the shell. That's my vote, but be prepared to invest time.

I'm trying to remember where, but I found some "trim to fit" footbeds that you put UNDER your regular footbed to take up volume. Something like that may help you too. I don't have time to look but try here:

Artech
Race Werks
Tognar

If you're okay on the length of the boot, these could help to suck up a little bit of volume. But if you can stand it, go with the 1/2 size down. If you have the Intuition Dalbello liners, you need a good initial fit that's pretty close, as they don't pack out as much as the regular liner. If the regular liner is a little sloppy, go smaller, cuz the regular liners are sub-par. I'm using the Intuition Silver in my Kryp Pros. The stock liners seemed pretty cheap, and from the feedback I've seen, they aren't the best out there.

Yo, thanks for the advice. I just had such a hard time with my last boots that I need to make sure these ones are perfect. I am going to take them into my another boot fitter today to see what he thinks, I will let you know what I find out.

remember the Krypton Shell is 5mm longer than a comparable Flexon. You can go down a shell size for a plug type fit.

Originally Posted by SiSt

There might be less foam (I´m not sure), but any sole you place in the liner will make up for it. There´s also a shock absorbing footbed (cross), or an option to swap between hard and soft (pro).

The Kryptons absolutely have less foam underfoot. The rep who recently blew through town recommended swapping out the included crap footbed for something better.

Originally Posted by zombinate

The Kryptons absolutely have less foam underfoot. The rep who recently blew through town recommended swapping out the included crap footbed for something better.

Doesn't that kind of go without saying?

Originally Posted by 123ski

Yo, thanks for the advice. I just had such a hard time with my last boots that I need to make sure these ones are perfect. I am going to take them into my another boot fitter today to see what he thinks, I will let you know what I find out.

Tognar has those footbeds to take up a little space that I was talking about. They come in 1/16" and 1/8" thicknesses.