Thread: Beat the scammers. Swap the gear.

i had great transactions with goodenuf and nfp158. posted accordingly in their profiles.

http://tetongravity.com/forums/member.php?u=17810
http://tetongravity.com/forums/member.php?u=12710

Excellent idea. When looking a Jqualls ^^^ profile, I noticed there is someone with the name "Dick Waver" on here. Do you think that's a man or a woman?

Ha - your guess is as good as mine.

Another solid transaction for me with skideeppow...details posted in his profile.

http://tetongravity.com/forums/member.php?u=1246

First: do not accept paypal as a seller in a sketch situation. the buyer can retract the money claiming the item never arrived, and paypal CAN and WILL take the money directly out of your bank account up to two months later! the burden is on the seller to prove the item arrived. system is fukt!

second: great idea for profile feedback.

I just left asianguy63 feedback on his profile. Hope this is a trend we can see more and more of.

just left theDon a pm on his pro. great seller~

Hey Guys, brand new as in joined today. Read the forums before but never commented, have to sell some gear so I joined up.

This is what I do when I'm using Craigslist, and it takes less than 5 minutes, and if the buyer/seller won't agree to it they are 100% scam artists.

Its a little 19th century invention called the Telephone.

Talk to the person, live, hear their voice. You normally can smell bullshit right there. Some people have gotten real good at internet scamming, using a keyboard. Most of them however, can't even speak english or sometimes they can't even speak decent "engrish" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engrish

I would like to say though, for a noob, love the site. Please keep up the good work.

Originally Posted by DJSapp

Advres, back in may we had a pm discussion about the board software having a function that allows for forum rating similar to ebay. That combined with the comment section showing who has left feedback (i.e. jong scammers or long term mags) can show a track record of what's gone down around here. I still feel that it could be a beneficial thing.

Gonzo, thanks for the heads up. I'm not around here so much anymore. I decided to buy a house and am broke at the moment.

edit: something like this http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showt...feedback+score

The Subaru Legacy GT forum I'm on use vbulletin's itrader system.

Feedback from buyer and seller is linked to the thread where the gear was posted. Feedback is positive/neutral/negative and allows for comments; it's very ebay like. I'm definitely more comfortable when dealing with a long time poster that also has a good itrader feedback rating.

I vote for itrader rather than a star system or posting in someone's profile. It's an idea whose time came a long time ago.

Originally Posted by jondrums

First: do not accept paypal as a seller in a sketch situation. the buyer can retract the money claiming the item never arrived, and paypal CAN and WILL take the money directly out of your bank account up to two months later! the burden is on the seller to prove the item arrived. system is fukt!

second: great idea for profile feedback.

Thanks for this heads up! I had no clue this could happen and have sold a lot of stuff via Paypal. Seems they increase their fees every time I turn around and this is yet another reason not to use them.

O/P's idea is a great one!

So what are we doing when we have a shitty transaction with someone? If you post it in their profile they'll just delete it? Had tons of great transactions here but the last one was shady, took way too long, got 10 different stories, had to file a paypal dispute (cause if you don't file one before 30 days you're screwed), and then the skis finally came a month and a half later (when they promised to ship the next day) and they had a couple extra mounts on them than they stated when I asked them. They said one mount -- they had three

Someone above mentioned listing feedback on the sale thread but if the seller is shitty they'll just delete the thread

Originally Posted by bobski

Let ebay be ebay and TGR be TGR.

So I'm new to the bay area and forum but want to buy another pair of skis. Like you, I also dislike responding with trash just to increase post counts. So why not use ebay as ghetto escrow?

Ex: Noob like me with legit ebay rating buys from other TGR members via quick auction posting and immediate "buy it now" option for the price. Noob pays through ebay/paypal and picks up the ebay tab.

I have a friend that is wanting to try his hand at making some gear and needs a source for 1040 cordura nylon. Anyone know were a person could purchase some in various colors?

This has turned out to be a good idea in my opinion. Great idea.

Originally Posted by jondrums

First: do not accept paypal as a seller in a sketch situation. the buyer can retract the money claiming the item never arrived, and paypal CAN and WILL take the money directly out of your bank account up to two months later! the burden is on the seller to prove the item arrived. system is fukt!

second: great idea for profile feedback.

I wouldnt recommend not using paypal... it is the most legit way of paying (in my experiences) just take extra precautions when dealing with potential sketchy situations. ship with tracking and insurance, and signature confirmation, so that if a claim is filed, you can prove that the buyer recieved the item

I'm sure there are a lot of programmers on here that could build something using algos that would take into consideration an average sketchfactor based off of comments that TGR receives from members after a transaction is complete(buyer/seller comments). That info could be fed into the system by the new intern as their initiation to TGR and it would flash their sketchiness factor when you hit it. It would make members strive to become more unsketchy hence making the gear swap more honest.

Like this idea, used it today.