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  1. #1
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    Advice on major edge blowout

    The edge had a crack in one spot all the way through the rail, and also featured a broken piece of edge that peeled out of the base layer.

    This is what the ski looked like when I received it: http://www.geocities.com/surlyhead/sxb5explode.jpg

    I have since cleaned the ski up a bit and removed the broken section of edge. I also removed the base layer in that section. The section is 21cm x 2cm is lined up with the boot sole/ski marker.
    http://www.geocities.com/surlyhead/sxb5cut.JPG

    My plan is to attain this type of edge or use edge material that I already have that looks somewhat different. I plan on using an actual ski industry epoxy with 22oz tri-axial weaved glass under the base layer. I plan to drill tiny holes into the edge and attain very small screws to screw it into the core, and pour epoxy between the edge and core material. Clamp it down and wait. . . then a stone grind and edge grind.

    ideas/input? Is this too big of a section to repair?

    Thanks.
    Last edited by sugarloaftrees; 09-29-2008 at 02:45 PM.

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    Nasty. I did a similar thing to a pair of salomon 1080s a few years ago, although not as bad. luckily i had a friend who is a top ski tech, and he managed to make it skiable. Basically the, edge was bent back into shape, then spot weilded back where it snapped. As for the base, i just used insane amounts of p-tex to get it back into a decent enough shape. It lasted about half a season before it all popped back out, but luckily 4 me my friend had a guy come in to his shop a day or 2 before i did it, and want to change some bindings from his current skis to his new ones, and unbelievably the old ones where the same as mine, and he didnt want them any more, so i ended up with 2 replacements, and i still get them out every now and again. So basically its touch and go with it all, but i wouldn't exect a whole lot out of it, best of luck though

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugarloaftrees View Post
    The edge had a crack in one spot all the way through the rail, and also featured a broken piece of edge that peeled out of the base layer.

    This is what the ski looked like when I received it: http://www.geocities.com/surlyhead/sxb5explode.jpg

    I have since cleaned the ski up a bit and removed the broken section of edge. I also removed the base layer in that section. The section is 21cm x 2cm is lined up with the boot sole/ski marker.
    http://www.geocities.com/surlyhead/sxb5cut.JPG

    My plan is to attain this type of edge or use edge material that I already have that looks somewhat different. I plan on using an actual ski industry epoxy with 22oz tri-axial weaved glass under the base layer. I plan to drill tiny holes into the edge and attain very small screws to screw it into the core, and pour epoxy between the edge and core material. Clamp it down and wait. . . then a stone grind and edge grind.

    ideas/input? Is this too big of a section to repair?

    Thanks.
    Sounds like a good plan. Do you have a ptex gun or are you gonna try a and melt sticks into that? (I'd only use a ptex gun)

    I imagine the hard part is getting the new metal edge to line up perfectly with the existing edge. (or at least close enough so that you can bevel the edges so that they are identical)

    Good luck and please post results.

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    AsheanMT,

    I was planning to sandwich a ski epoxy and triaxial weaved glass under a 2000 grade ptex cutout base layer. I have an entire roll of base layer. (I'm in the process of building skis)

    I won't have access to a ptex gun for another month or so when the shop opens up. I was thinking of using the ptex gun to seam the joints of the baser layer glue in. (if i can't get a 100% perfect seam)

    I have access to a mig welder as well, I was thinking about tacking the joints of the edge. This may be too much heat or distortion, but I am willing to try.

    I have had replies as to cut the base in 45 degree angles rather than 90...the argument was that a 45 degree cut would resist a pull out...my thought is that only testing will tell.

    I'll get new pics on here as I get the epoxy from the local supplier.

    -matt

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    Just find an edge you can screw into (itsy-bitsy screws) dovetail a couple 45's on the insert piece and the existing edge (think about it), epoxy it all together, smear some wet, but tacky, epoxy on the wood and base weld it. Good to go.
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