Thread: Is the news media starting to call McCain/Palin on all the lies?

Could our news organizations actually do something more than repeat whatever idiotic drivel they are told by the Republican team? Really??? (All credit for this amalgamation belongs to the Huffington Post)

Washington Post: Palin's position on the bridge that would have linked Ketchikan to Gravina Island is one example of a candidate staying on message even when that message has been publicly discredited...

The New Republic: What I love about the breathtakingly dishonest McCain ad about Obama's lipstick remark...

New York Times: But to those in the audience, it was clear that Mr. Obama was employing an age-old phrase — lipstick on a pig — and referring to Mr. McCain’s policies. He had not yet mentioned Ms. Palin at that point of his speech.

Bill O\\\'Reilly: Bill O'Reilly led off tonight's episode of The Factor with a pointed critique of the latest small-minded content of the news cycle, criticizing the McCain campaign both in terms of character and tactics, slagging the media for pressing the story senselessly, and largely absolving Obama

Mark Halperin: Halperin went on AC360 last night and straight-up bare-knuckled it -- accusing the press of indulging McCain's "crocodile tears," calling the media's unwillingness to hold Palin to accounts "embarrassing," and -- significantly -- dismissing and deflecting the McCain camp's attempt to change the conversation by making a mountain out of Obama's "lipstick on a pig" molehill.

Chicago Tribune: So the McCain ad, in the way it contorts the truth, is pretty shocking from a candidate who has promised to bring change and reform to Washington, a man who's urging Americans to live for a cause larger than themselves. This is an old-fashioned, unreconstructed politics whose goal, first and foremost, is to get the candidate elected, the truth be damned.

E.J. Dionne: This is not false naivete: I am genuinely surprised that John McCain and his campaign keep throwing out false charges and making false claims without any qualms.

McClatchy Papers: A new 30-second TV ad attacks Barack Obama's record on education, saying that Obama backed legislation to teach "'comprehensive sex education' to kindergartners."... ...Why that's wrong: This is a deliberately misleading accusation.

Joe Klein: (on McCain) Now he is responsible for one of the sleaziest ads I've ever seen in presidential politics, so sleazy that I won't abet its spread by linking to it

CBS: Palin just won't let it go. But the truth is the governor never rebuffed Congress. Here are the facts.

Jake Trapper: And yet, the inaugural conference call of what the McCain-Palin campaign is calling the "Palin Truth Squad" addressed Obama's remark. And interestingly, the Truth Squad call was full of half-truths and statements that weren't true at all.

Slate: The McCain team's hypersensitive and highly managed approach to the new vice president offers up yet more signs of just how far the Republican nominee has come from his freewheeling days. McCain, once one of the most accessible politicians in modern times, has essentially hidden his vice-presidential pick from the press since her selection. Palin's performances are highly scripted

National Review: ...there may have been good ways to take shots at Obama over the "lipstick on a pig" comment. But the Republicans are coming across as whiny grievance-mongers... Now Republicans are trashing her brand.

Andrew Sullivan: (on McCain) Did he come out and say so and end this charade? Or did he acquiesce in and thereby enable the mindless Rovianism that is now the core feature of his campaign? So far, he has let us all down. My guess is he will continue to do so. And that decision, for my part, ends whatever respect I once had for him.

MSNBC: However, one line that constantly shows up is that Palin said "thanks, but no thanks, to that 'bridge to nowhere.'" Palin's claim of opposing the 'bridge to nowhere' has proven to be a stretch, yet she keeps repeating the same line.

Paul Begala: In the face of demonstrable, provable, incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, McCain and Palin continue to assert that Gov. Palin opposed the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere." They do so in their speeches and ads, and their supporters say so on television until their pants are on fire. McCain and Palin also claim the Alaska governor opposes earmarks -- despite the fact that she's gotten her state so much pork she's at risk for trichinosis.

AP: A new ad from John McCain's presidential campaign contends his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, "stopped the Bridge to Nowhere." In fact, Palin was for the infamous bridge before she was against it

David Corn: This campaign is becoming ridiculous. And let's be honest: it is John McCain's fault... Talk about taking a statement out of context. And the ad maliciously plays Obama's lipstick comment over a headline that reads, "Barack Obama on Sarah Palin." This is nothing but deceitful.

Atlanta Journal Constitution: Sarah Palin is out on the campaign trail, this time in Ohio, still repeating the lie that she rejected federal funding for that infamous bridge in Alaska.. The American people are watching her repeatedly lie to them, day after day, and watching her do so with no apparent compunction. This is her introduction to the national scene; this is when her image is being cemented into the public mind.

Glenn Greenwald: It isn't surprising that the McCain campaign wants this sort of tawdry, Freak Show/Reality Show vapidity to determine the outcome of the election.

Politico: Blame can be shared between both campaigns. But thanks to the anchor of Bush, a devalued brand, the compelling stories of McCain and Palin and the cultural vulnerabilities of Obama, Republicans plainly have more to gain by making the race about character and identity. So they've begun to engage in what is effectively a campaign of baiting and exploiting.

Taylor Marsh: The McCain-Palin team went to school on what actually happened to Hillary, and are now trying to manufacture the same thing out of nothing, with a ready made machine to hit back, while milking it for all the pr they can get. The people hyperventilating about it, especially Sean Hannity, have said the most insulting things about Clinton that can be uttered. Now the McCain-Palin camps are feigning outrage over fantasy flaps.

Ruth Marcus: Come on. I’ve covered a lot of incredibly trivial and ridiculously hyped campaign controversies, but the McCain campaign’s feigned outrage over Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” comments has to take the cake. I mean, no offense to bakers.

The American Prospect: Obviously, this isn't a country with a responsible news media, and so none of that's going to happen. The Times and the Post will repeat the McCain camp's petty lies and slams without an ounce of critical analysis, not because they believe the spin, but because there's a massive conservative infrastructure devoting to working the refs and getting the coverage the right wants.

Ari Melber: The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder also swiftly debunked McCain's ploy. But the distraction is already upending the news cycle -- and I haven't even seen a television yet, (since we're en route to the airport). This is the kind of blatantly false charge that works even when reported skeptically, because it shouldn't be reported at all. Campaign journalists don't need to cover two sides to every lie; especially an outlandish gender card trick like this one.

No they will not. They will fixate on whatever stupid, lame ass story that is currently captivating the american public.

ANyway, its Obama's job to make an appealing image of himself to the American Public. That is, If the ultra liberal douche bag wing of his party will let him.

I am shocked. The liberal media is trying to save its candidate from himself. Absolutely shocking. Next thing you will tell me is that it snows at Alta in the winter.

Originally Posted by Crud's Uncle

I am shocked. The liberal media is trying to save its candidate from himself. Absolutely shocking. Next thing you will tell me is that it snows at Alta in the winter.

We all know you support sideshow politics. Maybe time to give up or post something with substance. You never actually disagree with context, just try and tar things with whatever you can find. No wonder you're so desperate for a Repub win.

Originally Posted by Crud's Uncle

I am shocked. The liberal media is trying to save its candidate from himself. Absolutely shocking. Next thing you will tell me is that it snows at Alta in the winter.

You think Palin should be able to say, over & over again, that she was against the bridge to nowhere & pork barrel spending and not be called out on it? Even though it's not just a misrepresentation of the truth, but a flat out lie?

Obama has many faults, but flat out lying, repeatedly over the course of a week, isnt one of them.

Cuing Goebels....

Nice work there Tim.

Funny how the "liberal media" card often gets played when it's pointed out that some conservative is lying.

So I pose this question specifically to you Uncle Crud: How often do you personally check the facts on someone like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Rielly, or Fox News in general to determine if they are lying enough to represent a "conservative bias?" Are you fair and balanced?

Originally Posted by timvwcom

Could our news organizations actually do something more than repeat whatever idiotic drivel they are told by the Republican team? Really??? (All credit for this amalgamation belongs to the Huffington Post)

so where's the link, then?

Originally Posted by timvwcom

Is the news media starting to call McCain/Palin on all the lies?

Yes, but they don't answer the phone.

Originally Posted by DharmaBum

So I pose this question specifically to you Uncle Crud: Are you balanced?

Fixed it for you.

Originally Posted by 13

so where's the link, then?

You mean a link back to Huffington Post and a single story there? Never was such a story... they just had links to each of these references in their headlines, and I pulled it all together in one post.

Originally Posted by timvwcom

You mean a link back to Huffington Post and a single story there? Never was such a story... they just had links to each of these references in their headlines, and I pulled it all together in one post.

then we should be giving you credit for amalgamating it! nice job.

honestly though, i'd be wary of bias from huffington post, since arianna is a well-known liberal.

Originally Posted by 13

...i'd be wary of bias from huffington post, since arianna is a well-known liberal.

NBC does a Palin fact check... Umm... can you say 100% FAIL?

Originally Posted by timvwcom

NBC does a Palin fact check... Umm... can you say 100% FAIL?

obviously the major network news folks at CBS have a liberal bias!

this is complete librodouche garbage! its clear sean hannity is the only one capable of giving a fair assertion of the "facts" concerning Palin.

If I were a more committed mag I'd start a dickhead alias or two just to make sure you're aware how you & the liberal media are all douches!!!

All I know is that we need that fucking bridge... We got the money for it anyway

ABC News does some checking this time... finds McCain flip/flopping.

Yeah. They're calling him on it.
From Straight Talk express to Lying Liar.

Now he's gonna hafta come up with another tactic. Quick.
And several more, at the rate he's burning through tactics.
Otherwise he'll be a bad joke well before the election.
Then we'll see a landslide big enough to get some attention.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...842030,00.html

circle talk express

FUCKING CONSERVATIVE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!! BLAAAAAARRRGGHHH!!!!!

Seriously - could we just change the name of this forum to The Librozombie Circle-Jerk? That's far more descriptive.

Originally Posted by Jer

...Seriously - could we just change the name of this forum to The Librozombie Circle-Jerk? That's far more descriptive.

I'll have to think on that one Jer...



Another thread here on TGR with a good catch on a CNN fact checking video; http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...d.php?t=133175

I'm going to add it here too so I have them all in one place;

Originally Posted by Crud's Uncle

I am shocked. The liberal media is trying to save its candidate from himself. Absolutely shocking. Next thing you will tell me is that it snows at Alta in the winter.

You are both a sad, and bad, parody of of an ignorant conservative spouting nothing but thoughtless talking points spewed to you by Rush and Fox News. Have you ever considered thinking for yourself?

It nevers fails to amaze me how the Repubs say God is on their side, yet are such liars and almost always the first to offer killing as a means to solve problems. I think they must be reading Satan's Bible, cause the one I've read blatanty points to such attitudes and actions as sins in complete contrast to the teachings of God.

whaddup wid dat?

Perfect example: Pat Robertson saying we should assassinate Hugo Chavez.
How the fuck could a man of God propose such an action?
And then they say the Islamists are whack for their extremism?
And the church-going bible-thumping retards buy into it.

Amazing...