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09-10-2008, 03:15 PM #1
Question about voting
Why dont more people vote by absentee?
I registered and have always voted by absentee, and its been great.
Dont have to schedule time to vote or take off work or whatever.
Dont have to drive or travel anywhere to vote.
Dont have to wait in line to vote.
Dont have to feel "under pressure" to hurry up and vote
Dont have to figure out the ballot sheet on the spot.
You need to supply your own writing implement.
I mean really, is there something im missing as to why people prefer to goto polls vs absentee?
Register, get a big fat voting envelope mailed to your home, vote at your leisure and when you want, mail it in with prepaid postage, and laugh at the suckers who are waiting in line on election day. Seems this is about as good as it gets and as close as we might come to online voting for a while, and its been around for a while.
i just dont get it
this posting was inspired by an NPR interview where the town mayor somewhere in BF Ohio? was advocating people sign up for absentee ballots this year due to the very long list of extra things on their ballot, lack of ballot machines, and the general fiasco at the last election which had similar issues. He said he was hoping for 1/3rd of the votes by absentee.
Last edited by pechelman; 09-10-2008 at 03:17 PM.
09-10-2008, 03:23 PM #2
Here about 8,000 of the 15,000 registered voters are either in mail-in precincts or have applied for absentee voter status
And the cons of absentee status are that it drives the politicos nuts that they can't control WHEN they vote, i.e. when receiving the ballot or close to the election deadline (Most happen to vote near the actual election).
Last edited by TruckeeLocal; 09-10-2008 at 03:25 PM.
09-10-2008, 03:23 PM #3
It robs you of the physical act of going to vote.
It robs you of getting a cool "I Voted" sticker.
They only count your vote if the real voting is close enough where you could theoretically make a difference. :
Of course, my polling is the local catholic church and there is never a line and I can walk there in about 60 secs."It is not the result that counts! It is not the result but the spirit! Not what - but how. Not what has been attained - but at what price.
- A. Solzhenitsyn
09-10-2008, 03:26 PM #4
Voting at my local polling place gives me a great excuse to get the heck out of work for a while and take a leisurely lunch.
09-10-2008, 03:26 PM #5Registered User
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Go to polls. My version.
There are no lines here.
I get a chance to visit with some of my neighbors I don't see too often.
I also get to see which ones are running the polls so when the results come out different than what I want I can blame them for "fixing" the count.
It's on the way home.
It cost a fortune to run those places so using them makes everybody feel a little better.
It keeps the poll people awake if someone stops by to vote during the 14 hours they have to work.
But I see what your getting at. I do mail in sometimes too.
09-10-2008, 03:30 PM #6
ill also add that getting an absentee allows the individual to know what theyre voting on beforehand and gives time for them to research it.
last time i voted i had no idea what half the additional things or people i was voting for actually were despite those little 2line descriptions.
maybe its different here in colorado though as FZ and LB are pointing out with the short lines. I mean, last 2 times ive been a voter, it was when i had residency in Florida (full of retards wrt voting as we all know), and in downtown Atlanta (nuff said).
Last edited by pechelman; 09-10-2008 at 03:33 PM.
09-10-2008, 03:45 PM #7"It is not the result that counts! It is not the result but the spirit! Not what - but how. Not what has been attained - but at what price.
- A. Solzhenitsyn
09-10-2008, 03:52 PM #8
Last edited by PNWbrit; 09-10-2008 at 03:55 PM.
09-10-2008, 04:18 PM #9
Sounds like a good idea to me. So much that I went online and printed out the absentee ballot application. Filled it out... stuck it in an envelope... opened the drawer... shit, no stamps.
I was SO close!
09-10-2008, 04:19 PM #10
No lines around here. Going in person has a good feeling to it. Also, people like to feel their votes are counted. Absentee ballots are sometimes not counted if they cannot make a difference.Originally Posted by blurred
09-10-2008, 04:48 PM #11
if its not close in the end, your vote didnt really "count" anyway
i dont see the difference personally
also, where do you see regulations about counting absentees?
im getting some mixed information on this that some counties do what you and LB said, and others count them regardless
sounds like the line issue isnt one out here
i just remember driving by huuuuge lines where i used to live
09-10-2008, 04:58 PM #12
Mail-in precincts are counted as part of the main counting process. True absentees are counted ... eventually but are counted quickly to resolve close races.
09-10-2008, 05:52 PM #13
I'm registered as a mail-in voter and it works better for me. It's a rural area and I'd have to drive about a half hour past my house to vote at, what I think, is the closest polling place.
As for MonkeyMan's problem; mine comes with return postage.
Last edited by concretejungle; 09-10-2008 at 05:55 PM.
09-10-2008, 05:56 PM #14
I should really start doing this.
Truthfully, I have absolutely no idea where the polling place is around here. I've moved twice since 06.
09-10-2008, 06:09 PM #15
Our polling place changes every year, but it's either across the street or at most about 2 blocks away. I don't mind walking and generally there's never much of a line."Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow, what a Ride!"
09-10-2008, 06:37 PM #16
I keep meaning to vote by mail, but it actaully takes effort to request the ballot, so like the champion procrastinator I can be, I have just never got around to it. The poling place is on the way home, never crowded, et cetera. Besides it fun to pick up my democratic ballot version in my all republican area. It makes me such a rebel, just like James Dean.
I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...iscariot
09-10-2008, 06:56 PM #17
09-16-2008, 09:27 AM #18Registered User
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I changed my mind this time. I'll need to do it at home cause there's multi-page ballot and with all the homework/legwork required even with no lines the voters there will use all of their ten minute limit in the booth.
Originally Posted by the paper
09-16-2008, 11:03 AM #19
Somewhat of a sidenote, but it came out of a local radio story this a.m. about absentee voting. Seems the local registrar usually gets around 200 voter registrations in 5-6 months, but lately has been reporting up to 200 a day for several weeks. No idea what this means, just sounded interesting.
I hope it snows before the election.Shut your eyes and think of somewhere. Somewhere cold and caked with snow.
09-16-2008, 11:04 AM #20
Cause I'm an idiot and preparing something months in advance escapes my abilities as a human. Sucks, cause I'm thinking WI will be a closer race then MT, but can ya do...
09-16-2008, 11:29 AM #21
I believe that the STATEWIDE rule for requesting an absentee ballot is
All persons wishing to vote absentee must request an absentee ballot in writing to their municipal clerk in the city, village or township where they are eligible to vote. The request can be made as early as the first day of the sixth month before any election. The last day to make a request in writing to have your ballot mailed to you is the Friday before the election. If the absentee elector wishes to vote in the clerk’s office, the deadline is 5:00 p.m. on the day before the election. The request can be on a special Application for Absentee Ballot form, federal Post Card Application form, or in a letter stating your name, voting address and the address where the ballot should be mailed. The elector should sign the letter. No person can request an absentee ballot for another elector. A request received by fax is acceptable, but the original request must also be mailed.
- Voter's full name
- Address of the voter's legal voting residence
- Voter's ward or election district
- A statement that the voter is requesting an absentee ballot
- The address to which the ballot should be sent.
Now, knowing your age... I'd guess there is a good chance you are not REGISTERED as a voter yet. In person you can register in WI at the time you show up to vote... OR you can register to vote BY MAIL...
The application must be postmarked no later than the 20th day (3rd Wednesday) before the election. (For the September Partisan Primary, that date is Wednesday, August 20, 2008, and for the November General Election that date is Wednesday, October 15, 2008.)
Download the form to register by mail here (fillable); http://elections.state.wi.us/docview...13380&locid=47
or here non-fillable;
Your proof of residence can be any of the following;
The following constitute acceptable Proof-of-Residence if the document contains the information specified above:
1. A current and valid Wisconsin driver�s license.
2. A current and valid Wisconsin identification card.
3. Any other official identification card or license issued by a Wisconsin governmental body or unit.
4. Any identification card issued by an employer in the normal course of business and bearing a photo of the card holder, but not including a business card.
5. A real estate tax bill or receipt for the current year or the year preceding the date of the election.
6. A residential lease which is effective for a period that includes election day (NOT for first-time voters registering by mail).
7. A university, college or technical institute fee card (must include photo).
8. A university, college or technical institute identification card (must include photo).
9. A gas, electric or telephone service statement (utility bill) for the period commencing not earlier than 90 days before election day.
10. Bank statement.
12. A check or other document issued by a unit of government.
PM me if you need help, I think you CAN still get yer vote counted here in WI.If some of the best times of my life were skiing the UP in -40 wind chill with nothing but jeans, cotton long johns and a wine flask to keep warm while sleeping in the back of my dad's van... does that make me old school?
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09-16-2008, 11:45 AM #22Registered User
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From an economist's standpoint, it makes no sense to vote at all:
If you go to the second page, it talks about the significance of actually physically going to vote (the Swiss experiment). I recommend quickly reading the whole thing if you have the time.
09-16-2008, 12:45 PM #23
From an economist's standpoint, humans make no sense at all.
09-16-2008, 02:11 PM #24Lord King of the Beater-Kooks
10-20-2008, 03:11 PM #25
heard on the radio this morning
colorado has ~2.5million registered voters, of which, 57% are registered via mail-in