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09-10-2008, 01:06 PM #1
Obama/McCain stance on online gaming?
Specifically online poker.
Has anyone heard either take a stance on this issue?
I'd guess Obama would be for it, but I could be wrong.
09-10-2008, 02:09 PM #2advres Guest
Barak Obama - http://library.pokerplayersalliance....-obama-081508/. This seems like political backtalk to me. Just reiterate the laws and say he may look into it in the future.
McCain hasn't come out and said anything to my knowledge but I assume he is going to follow the Repubs stance on it.
So send him a letter, I did
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09-10-2008, 02:11 PM #3
The fact is the British, and some other non-Americans (can we still call Brits "non-American"?), control online gaming. That's why the US government did what they did - they "like" free markets and capitalism and all that, but only if they're winning."Active management in bear markets tends to outperform. Unfortunately, investors are not as elated with relative returns when they are negative. But it does support the argument that active management adds value." -- independent fund analyst Peter Loach
09-10-2008, 02:25 PM #4
Personally I'd hope that neither of them have the a neat prepared position on the subject - it'd reek of lobbying and vested interests?
It is wrong that the governement feels the need to legislate against this stuff. But in the scheme of things it's not that big a deal on my radar.
09-10-2008, 03:51 PM #5Big Balls Guest
I'm pretty sure they are both pro-World of Warcraft but both anti-Grand Theft Auto. Hope that helps.
09-10-2008, 04:18 PM #6
I heard Obama would outlaw TKing.Originally Posted by blurred
09-10-2008, 04:34 PM #7?
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I am against it
I like for people to come to the CASINO here in NEVADA
09-10-2008, 04:41 PM #8advres Guest
Like people will stop going to brick and mortars because of online gambling.
09-10-2008, 04:45 PM #9?
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I don't know, its getting very big and as someone who does not pay State incometax because of gambling. I would like to see it shut down or highly regulated. But then I don't go near it, so I know Shit about it.
I like to play Battleship online
09-10-2008, 05:59 PM #10
Pretty much the first online gaming court battle, i used to work with the guy.
09-10-2008, 06:13 PM #11
09-10-2008, 06:28 PM #12
I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...iscariot
09-10-2008, 06:30 PM #13
09-10-2008, 07:10 PM #14advres Guest
Before the 'poker boom' almost single-handedly started by Moneymaker, a nobody who won the WSOP, many rooms were hurting.
Mohegan Sun shut their room down because they were making no money (due to corruption and lack of players). They recently put in a new poker room because Foxwoods was killing them. That casino has online poker, the WSOP and the WPT to thank for the need of a poker room.
09-10-2008, 07:17 PM #15
09-10-2008, 09:07 PM #16
09-23-2008, 03:08 PM #17advres Guest
A little off topic but THIS is mildly concerning!
State cracks down on Net gambling
Commandeers 141 playing site domain names
By Jack Brammer
FRANKFORT — Kentucky is commandeering 141 domain names of Internet gambling sites in a novel legal move to crack down on the unregulated industry.
Franklin Circuit Judge Thomas Wingate ordered the names transferred to the state last week, Gov. Steve Beshear announced Monday.
Sites affected include such names as caribbeangold.com and sportsbook.com.
If officials get their way at a Sept. 25 forfeiture hearing, the state will control the domain names and can ask Web registrars to block access to the sites, said Justice and Public Safety Secretary J. Michael Brown.
Kentucky would become the first state to seize a gambling operation's domain name, Brown said.
He acknowledged that such a move could block access to the domains worldwide, but said he was interested only in its effect on Kentucky.
Beshear, who supports allowing casino gambling in Kentucky, called the online operations "leeches on our communities." Kentucky loses tens of millions of dollars a year to online gambling, which is illegal in every state, he said.
"Unlicensed, unregulated, illegal Internet gambling poses a tremendous threat to the citizens of the commonwealth because of its ease, availability and anonymity," Beshear said.
Mike Stone, executive director of the Kentucky Council on Problem Gambling, said his group supports all efforts against illegal gambling.
"Many college students have put themselves at risk for online gambling, especially with poker and other online card games," Stone said.
Kentucky's efforts follow on the heels of a 2006 federal law that forces U.S. banks and credit card companies to block electronic transactions to Internet gambling businesses.
"But that did not mark the end of Internet gambling," Stone said.
Besides creating ways for youths to wager, Beshear said, unlicensed Internet gambling undermines horse racing by creating untaxed competition, makes it difficult to trace online laundering schemes and lacks consumer protections to ensure that people actually receive their winnings.
Beshear, who is pushing for casino gambling in the state, said he has no intention of pursuing Internet gambling as an option in Kentucky.
The Lexington law firm of Hurt, Crosbie & May and the Geneva, Ill., firm of Foote, Meyers, Mielke & Flowers are representing the state in the court action.
Brown said the firms are being used instead of Attorney General Jack Conway's office because the matter is a civil, instead of a criminal, action. The cost of the state's legal representation was not immediately available.
Brown would not say whether the actions of the illegal Internet operators would lead to criminal prosecution.
"That's beyond my purview," he said.
10-27-2008, 12:41 PM #18If some of the best times of my life were skiing the UP in -40 wind chill with nothing but jeans, cotton long johns and a wine flask to keep warm while sleeping in the back of my dad's van... does that make me old school?
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10-27-2008, 12:49 PM #19
So, a vote for McCain is a vote for independence and less government in my life....
And a vote for Obama means dependence on the gubermunt and more government intrusion on my life while the "spread the wealth" with socialism. Gotcha.
10-27-2008, 02:41 PM #20
mmm skiing and poker. my two favorite activities. who else shares my sentiments?
whether or not online poker is actually legal in the US (it lands in a gray area in most states), it has forced the casual players out for the most part. if it were to be legalized, and taxed, both gov't and players would be rewarded. of course, in this economy, nobody really cares, so i bet it takes a while before any ground is made. of course it could go the other way and be outlawed completely, as is becoming the case in nazi-infiltrated kentucky. the biggest problem remains the ignorance of politicians and non players, thinking that the game is utter gambling and no better than playing roulette or any table game, and that no skill is involved. this is so not the case. so then, why are things like horse racing and sports betting tolerated? these involve some degree of skill too. just makes no sense.
to the OP, not sure why you posted here in a skiing forum. you are better off checking out the PPA website or poker forums like www.pocketfives.com and www.twoplustwo.com. they have what you are looking for.
10-27-2008, 03:32 PM #21