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09-07-2008, 11:07 AM #1
Meet The Press interview with John McCain
He was short on specifics but had strong thoughts on an inclusive presidency that incorporates both parties and uses the people that are right for the job regardless of political motivation. High talk, but once again he seems sincere in his beliefs. Whether he could actually accomplish this would be interesting.
McCain also once again took his party and Congress in general to task for its cronyism, catering to special interests and insular behaviour. He was also courteous towards Obama even though he called into question Obama's judgement on things like the "surge" and a couple of other issues that I forget, and he called Obama out on never challenging his own party.
The tone of this final post-convention run to the election is being set right now and it looks like these two candidates just might take the high road and primarily focus on the issues, which hopefully will come to the forefront soon.
Bob Schiffer used a quote that the primary function of the VP is to be ready to serve as POTUS and that has people concerned about Palin as his pick. McCain vigorously defended her ability to do that, but I'm really thinking as more people measure her background and abilities she will become a hindrance to his election. Of course we have just started to get an idea of her strengths and she could still surprise.
Last edited by str8line; 09-07-2008 at 01:15 PM.
09-07-2008, 11:25 AM #2
What is he saying?
09-07-2008, 01:05 PM #3
09-07-2008, 03:30 PM #4"Active management in bear markets tends to outperform. Unfortunately, investors are not as elated with relative returns when they are negative. But it does support the argument that active management adds value." -- independent fund analyst Peter Loach
09-07-2008, 07:48 PM #5
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09-07-2008, 08:00 PM #7
...but the Chinese can vote by dumping your debt. Don't be so cocksure about how the people on the otherside of the world can't 'vote'. In the end all a great nation may be left with is Sarah Palin and more bombs than anyone else. That isnt leading.
09-07-2008, 08:43 PM #8
The point is not whether some one like Palin or not, but whether she can lead. McCain pretty didn't answer the question, but went off on how popular she is. Being popular, and being like may get you elected in this country, which is a sad statement about our system, but it doesn't mean you can lead.
Palin is not a leader, at least not at the level she needs to be. It looks like McCain has committed her to be interviewed on "Meet the Press". Schiffer even signed off that he looks forward to interviewing her next weekend. That will be worth watching.
McCain's interview was pretty lackadaisical. It was certainly better then his RNC speech, but still pretty weak on issues, and how he intends to deal with them. Obama's and Biden's interviews were much better, and kept much more to the point. They had answers and some specifics. Brokaw did the best job of interviewing, Schiffer was to scripted (probably a requirement for the interview,) and Stephenopolis sp?, just seemed a little hostile, but Obama handled it well and stayed on topic.
As for you guys who are blasting Hohes, I think you are way off base. I am always amazed how much more aware people who live outside the US are about our politics. They are very often much, much more aware of what is going on the the vast majority of Americans. I don't just mean the typical yokel that thinks Palin is the greatest candidate since George Washington, but even more so then informed Americans. You don't need to travel to every country in the world, but getting outside of Alaska once and awhile would be nice. The only president less traveled the Palin is GWB, and we all no what a failure his foreign polocy is.
I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...iscariot
09-07-2008, 09:15 PM #9
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09-07-2008, 09:35 PM #11
I like the way you have yourself convinced that I am Mr Dumb and you are Mr Smarter.
A collapse of the US economy is nowhere near as devastating today as it was 10 years ago. This is evidenced by the fact that the US economy has already started to collapse and whilst the world is weak right now, it isn't falling to pieces as a result.
ps - You might not understand this, but just because I live in a nation does not mean I am a citizen of it. Your 'how about Japan step up...' shots are wasted on me. I just live here. And yes, it is possible to live in a foreign country without being there as part of your home country's military.
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09-07-2008, 09:45 PM #12
When Palin was born in Sandpoint, I lived there. Population was about 3,500 with another 3,000 on the outskirts. Almost the same as Wasilla. The Mayor's name was Floyd Gray. He ran the movie theater. Nice guy, though I wouldn't say he was qualified to run the country. But hey, I'm sure taking tickets and popping popcorn is very similar to making the call whether or not we engage in WWIII. He could have drawn on that experience and applied it to the international stage. I mean, movie theaters have stages, right?
09-07-2008, 09:55 PM #13
Can you guys get your hosts/shows straight? Bob Schieffer hosts "Face the Nation" on CBS, and Tom Brokaw is the host of "Meet the Press" on NBC. Who is getting the damn interview?
Here's what Reuters is saying:McCain adviser Mark Salter said later on Sunday that Palin had agreed to a series of interviews with national media, likely starting on Thursday or Friday, and beginning with Charlie Gibson of ABC.
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09-08-2008, 06:55 AM #14
2. The reason the collapse isn't as bad as 10 years ago is fairly simple - the government wasn't bailing everyone out then - at least not to the extent it is now. This mortgage thing is HUDGE!!! Don't fool yourself into thinking that they stepped in simply for "socialist" reasons as you put it. If the biggest mortgage lenders in the world go under (and nobody steps in to "save it"), I shudder to think of the downstream effects. Every property any foreign investor owned or had in mortgage would be worthless.
3. Sorry for the assumption of you citizenry.
09-08-2008, 07:15 AM #15"Typically euro, french in particular, in my opinion. It's the same skiing or climbing there. They are completely unfazed by their own assholeness. Like it's normal." - srsosbso
09-08-2008, 07:30 AM #16
Str8, great post. I think that you hit the nail on the head...re: Palin. So did McCain...re: Obama. It should be interesting. In my mind, the question becomes: Do we not for for McCain, because of his VP choice? Of course, this is not the only question, as the foreseen deficit under both administrations also raises questions.
People vote on different issues. I'm simple. I vote based upon my beliefs on the following issues, no more; no less:
1) The safety of the citizens of this country
2) The prosperity of Americans
3) Healthcare in America
4) Education in America
5) Americans' role in peace around the world
6) The environment.
I don't vote on issues such as gay rights, abortion, religion, death penalty, guns or immigration. These things seem to work themselves out, anyway. Right or wrong, that's just me.
09-08-2008, 07:38 AM #17
As Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard, she traveled to Bahrain, Iraq, and Europe to visit her deployed troops. This was long before Obama visited any troops...and before Obama canceled a visit to wounded troops because he wouldn't get any press coverage from it.
Obama doesn't give a rats ass about anyone except himself, and maybe his fellow corrupt Chicago political buddies.
John McCain & Sarah Palin Visit Troops:
I got a Nikon camera...I love to take a photograph...So Mama, don't take my Kodachrome away
09-08-2008, 10:59 AM #18
09-08-2008, 12:40 PM #19
Maybe ABC needs to start a show called Face the Press to Meet the Nation. Then we'd be really cornfused.
09-08-2008, 12:49 PM #20
One of the things I like least about McCain is that I have no idea what he's going to do about a lot of the issues you mentioned. He says stuff, but he's recanted a lot of previous positions. He clearly went more party orthodox in the last 4-5 years, will he stay there? Or, if he's elected and no longer beholden to the people who promised him support, will he change his colors again and revert to his earlier positions?
Last edited by Steven S. Dallas; 09-08-2008 at 12:52 PM.In the long run, we're all dead.- John Maynard Keynes
09-08-2008, 01:09 PM #21
Right now, there are 4 liberals on the Supreme Court. Two (Souter and Stevens), were appointed by republicans (Bush and Ford). The Supreme Court has a way of working things out. McCain claims to strive for bipartisanship. People seem to think that he is altruistic. I think that I would trust his picks more than Obamas.
09-08-2008, 01:50 PM #22
Obama's not experienced.
But in this one area where Obama's experience hands down no questions asked just fucking slaughter's McCain's...you'd trust McCain.
tip: experience doesn't matter it's all about policy.
tip^2: when I heckle about experience I'm heckling hypocrisy, not the candidate's actual experience or lack thereof."It is not the result that counts! It is not the result but the spirit! Not what - but how. Not what has been attained - but at what price.
- A. Solzhenitsyn
09-08-2008, 04:33 PM #23Big Balls Guest
Yeah like McCain is going to be able to appoint extremists to the bench (even if he wanted to) while Dems have veto proof majorities in both houses. I can't believe it doesn't scare the shit out of any people having one party in charge of EVERYTHING. You'd think these last 8 years we would have learned something. Any time either party has complete control it is always a fucking disaster.
09-08-2008, 04:44 PM #24
When people speak about having "seen the world" they
visiting your troops
They want to know that you've met the citizens of the country, that you understand something of other cultures, that you are "worldly", etc. Visiting US troops is even less an immersion in another country/culture than going to eating at McDonald's and staying at an American hotel.
Last edited by Cliff Huckable; 09-08-2008 at 04:46 PM."Active management in bear markets tends to outperform. Unfortunately, investors are not as elated with relative returns when they are negative. But it does support the argument that active management adds value." -- independent fund analyst Peter Loach
09-08-2008, 04:59 PM #25
Wait, have you ever left Canada?
Your posts must be in jest, because I have a really hard time believing that you're that dumb with the things you say. Either that or you really are a 13 year old.
Prove me wrong newschooler.I still call it The Jake.