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    Meet The Press interview with John McCain

    He was short on specifics but had strong thoughts on an inclusive presidency that incorporates both parties and uses the people that are right for the job regardless of political motivation. High talk, but once again he seems sincere in his beliefs. Whether he could actually accomplish this would be interesting.

    McCain also once again took his party and Congress in general to task for its cronyism, catering to special interests and insular behaviour. He was also courteous towards Obama even though he called into question Obama's judgement on things like the "surge" and a couple of other issues that I forget, and he called Obama out on never challenging his own party.

    The tone of this final post-convention run to the election is being set right now and it looks like these two candidates just might take the high road and primarily focus on the issues, which hopefully will come to the forefront soon.

    Bob Schiffer used a quote that the primary function of the VP is to be ready to serve as POTUS and that has people concerned about Palin as his pick. McCain vigorously defended her ability to do that, but I'm really thinking as more people measure her background and abilities she will become a hindrance to his election. Of course we have just started to get an idea of her strengths and she could still surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by str8line View Post
    Bob Schiffer used a quote that the primary function of the VP is to be ready to serve as POTUS and that that has people concerned about Palin as his pick. McCain vigorously defended her ability to do that, but I'm really thinking as more people measure her background and abilities she will become a hindrance to his election. Of course we have just started to get an idea of her strengths and she could still surprise.
    I don't know. There's only two months to go. Obama managed to hoodwink everybody for almost a year. I think the Reps can manage for 60 more days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by str8line View Post
    He was short on specifics but had strong thoughts on an inclusive presidency that incorporates both parties and uses the people that are right for the job regardless of political motivation. High talk, but once again he seems sincere in his beliefs.
    "He didn't say anything meaningful but he seems like a nice man."


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    Quote Originally Posted by str8line View Post
    Bob Schiffer used a quote that the primary function of the VP is to be ready to serve as POTUS and that has people concerned about Palin as his pick. McCain vigorously defended her ability to do that,
    Impossible: how can she be the leader of the Free World if she has never even been to it? (And Americans who quote Canada as international travel need a reality check).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hohes View Post
    Impossible: how can she be the leader of the Free World if she has never even been to it? (And Americans who quote Canada as international travel need a reality check).
    Can you STFU about her already? I think everyone gets the fact you don't like her, but here's a news flash for you -- you live on the other side of the world and you can't vote here anyway.

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    ...but the Chinese can vote by dumping your debt. Don't be so cocksure about how the people on the otherside of the world can't 'vote'. In the end all a great nation may be left with is Sarah Palin and more bombs than anyone else. That isnt leading.
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    The point is not whether some one like Palin or not, but whether she can lead. McCain pretty didn't answer the question, but went off on how popular she is. Being popular, and being like may get you elected in this country, which is a sad statement about our system, but it doesn't mean you can lead.

    Palin is not a leader, at least not at the level she needs to be. It looks like McCain has committed her to be interviewed on "Meet the Press". Schiffer even signed off that he looks forward to interviewing her next weekend. That will be worth watching.

    McCain's interview was pretty lackadaisical. It was certainly better then his RNC speech, but still pretty weak on issues, and how he intends to deal with them. Obama's and Biden's interviews were much better, and kept much more to the point. They had answers and some specifics. Brokaw did the best job of interviewing, Schiffer was to scripted (probably a requirement for the interview,) and Stephenopolis sp?, just seemed a little hostile, but Obama handled it well and stayed on topic.

    As for you guys who are blasting Hohes, I think you are way off base. I am always amazed how much more aware people who live outside the US are about our politics. They are very often much, much more aware of what is going on the the vast majority of Americans. I don't just mean the typical yokel that thinks Palin is the greatest candidate since George Washington, but even more so then informed Americans. You don't need to travel to every country in the world, but getting outside of Alaska once and awhile would be nice. The only president less traveled the Palin is GWB, and we all no what a failure his foreign polocy is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hutash View Post
    As for you guys who are blasting Hohes, I think you are way off base.
    Nah. Every time her name is mentioned, he says the same damn thing again...and again...and again...and again. Hence the "STFU, I f'ing get it already"...

    I have plenty room left on my ignore list though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hohes View Post
    ...but the Chinese can vote by dumping your debt.
    I think even YOU are smarter than that. As the US economy goes, so does the world's, and I'm NOT saying that is a good thing either. A collapse in the US is devastating worldwide. I would bet Japan has felt the pinch as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hohes View Post
    That isnt leading.
    Japan is free to step up any time! Take over as you see fit - and open YOUR checkbook while you're at it.

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    I like the way you have yourself convinced that I am Mr Dumb and you are Mr Smarter.

    A collapse of the US economy is nowhere near as devastating today as it was 10 years ago. This is evidenced by the fact that the US economy has already started to collapse and whilst the world is weak right now, it isn't falling to pieces as a result.

    ps - You might not understand this, but just because I live in a nation does not mean I am a citizen of it. Your 'how about Japan step up...' shots are wasted on me. I just live here. And yes, it is possible to live in a foreign country without being there as part of your home country's military.
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    When Palin was born in Sandpoint, I lived there. Population was about 3,500 with another 3,000 on the outskirts. Almost the same as Wasilla. The Mayor's name was Floyd Gray. He ran the movie theater. Nice guy, though I wouldn't say he was qualified to run the country. But hey, I'm sure taking tickets and popping popcorn is very similar to making the call whether or not we engage in WWIII. He could have drawn on that experience and applied it to the international stage. I mean, movie theaters have stages, right?
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    Can you guys get your hosts/shows straight? Bob Schieffer hosts "Face the Nation" on CBS, and Tom Brokaw is the host of "Meet the Press" on NBC. Who is getting the damn interview?

    Here's what Reuters is saying:
    McCain adviser Mark Salter said later on Sunday that Palin had agreed to a series of interviews with national media, likely starting on Thursday or Friday, and beginning with Charlie Gibson of ABC.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...33023520080907
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hohes View Post
    I like the way you have yourself convinced that I am Mr Dumb and you are Mr Smarter.

    A collapse of the US economy is nowhere near as devastating today as it was 10 years ago. This is evidenced by the fact that the US economy has already started to collapse and whilst the world is weak right now, it isn't falling to pieces as a result.

    ps - You might not understand this, but just because I live in a nation does not mean I am a citizen of it. Your 'how about Japan step up...' shots are wasted on me. I just live here. And yes, it is possible to live in a foreign country without being there as part of your home country's military.
    1. You aren't dumb. But your blind hatred of Palin is really getting old and kinda making you a tool in my eyes. If I posted how much I think Barack is a sham in every thread his name came up in, I think you would agree that it would start to get old as well.

    2. The reason the collapse isn't as bad as 10 years ago is fairly simple - the government wasn't bailing everyone out then - at least not to the extent it is now. This mortgage thing is HUDGE!!! Don't fool yourself into thinking that they stepped in simply for "socialist" reasons as you put it. If the biggest mortgage lenders in the world go under (and nobody steps in to "save it"), I shudder to think of the downstream effects. Every property any foreign investor owned or had in mortgage would be worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
    I think even YOU are smarter than that. As the US economy goes, so does the world's, and I'm NOT saying that is a good thing either. A collapse in the US is devastating worldwide.
    And this why the rest of the world is interested in the US election. Even if we don't vote, we have an opinion. For free.
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    Str8, great post. I think that you hit the nail on the head...re: Palin. So did McCain...re: Obama. It should be interesting. In my mind, the question becomes: Do we not for for McCain, because of his VP choice? Of course, this is not the only question, as the foreseen deficit under both administrations also raises questions.

    People vote on different issues. I'm simple. I vote based upon my beliefs on the following issues, no more; no less:
    1) The safety of the citizens of this country
    2) The prosperity of Americans
    3) Healthcare in America
    4) Education in America
    5) Americans' role in peace around the world
    6) The environment.

    I don't vote on issues such as gay rights, abortion, religion, death penalty, guns or immigration. These things seem to work themselves out, anyway. Right or wrong, that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hohes View Post
    (And Americans who quote Canada as international travel need a reality check).
    Are you implying that Gov Palin has never traveled internationally?

    As Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard, she traveled to Bahrain, Iraq, and Europe to visit her deployed troops. This was long before Obama visited any troops...and before Obama canceled a visit to wounded troops because he wouldn't get any press coverage from it.

    Obama doesn't give a rats ass about anyone except himself, and maybe his fellow corrupt Chicago political buddies.

    John McCain & Sarah Palin Visit Troops:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster View Post
    Can you guys get your hosts/shows straight? Bob Schieffer hosts "Face the Nation" on CBS, and Tom Brokaw is the host of "Meet the Press" on NBC. Who is getting the damn interview?

    Here's what Reuters is saying: http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...33023520080907
    Oops. Yup, the interview with McCain was on Face The Nation.

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    Maybe ABC needs to start a show called Face the Press to Meet the Nation. Then we'd be really cornfused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schindlerpiste View Post
    I don't vote on issues such as gay rights, abortion, religion, death penalty, guns or immigration.
    So the fact that the next administration will likely get to appoint two, maybe three, Supreme Court justices isn't of interest to you?

    One of the things I like least about McCain is that I have no idea what he's going to do about a lot of the issues you mentioned. He says stuff, but he's recanted a lot of previous positions. He clearly went more party orthodox in the last 4-5 years, will he stay there? Or, if he's elected and no longer beholden to the people who promised him support, will he change his colors again and revert to his earlier positions?
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    Right now, there are 4 liberals on the Supreme Court. Two (Souter and Stevens), were appointed by republicans (Bush and Ford). The Supreme Court has a way of working things out. McCain claims to strive for bipartisanship. People seem to think that he is altruistic. I think that I would trust his picks more than Obamas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schindlerpiste View Post
    Right now, there are 4 liberals on the Supreme Court. Two (Souter and Stevens), were appointed by republicans (Bush and Ford). The Supreme Court has a way of working things out. McCain claims to strive for bipartisanship. People seem to think that he is altruistic. I think that I would trust his picks more than Obamas.
    You guys crack me up.

    Obama's not experienced.

    But in this one area where Obama's experience hands down no questions asked just fucking slaughter's McCain's...you'd trust McCain.



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    Yeah like McCain is going to be able to appoint extremists to the bench (even if he wanted to) while Dems have veto proof majorities in both houses. I can't believe it doesn't scare the shit out of any people having one party in charge of EVERYTHING. You'd think these last 8 years we would have learned something. Any time either party has complete control it is always a fucking disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AstroPax View Post
    Are you implying that Gov Palin has never traveled internationally?

    As Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard, she traveled to Bahrain, Iraq, and Europe to visit her deployed troops. This was long before Obama visited any troops...and before Obama canceled a visit to wounded troops because he wouldn't get any press coverage from it.

    Obama doesn't give a rats ass about anyone except himself, and maybe his fellow corrupt Chicago political buddies.

    John McCain & Sarah Palin Visit Troops:

    newsflash:
    When people speak about having "seen the world" they
    DO
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    visiting your troops
    OVERSEAS!

    They want to know that you've met the citizens of the country, that you understand something of other cultures, that you are "worldly", etc. Visiting US troops is even less an immersion in another country/culture than going to eating at McDonald's and staying at an American hotel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Huckable View Post
    "He didn't say anything meaningful but he seems like a nice man."


    John McCain is the least sincere man in DC. That's his greatest accomplishment.
    You've clearly never been to Washington DC.

    Wait, have you ever left Canada?

    Your posts must be in jest, because I have a really hard time believing that you're that dumb with the things you say. Either that or you really are a 13 year old.

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