Thread: Obama Experience?

I am curious, what experience does Obama have that qualifies him to be president?

Here is his resume:

Community Organizer
Professor
State Legislator(Illinois part time legislator)
3 Years as a Senator, two years on the campaign trail
CEO of a presidential campaign.
Good speech reader

No executive experience. Also I will grant that the McCain's have lived a comfortable life, well at least outside of Hanoi. However, Obama also grew up as a rich boy. Hawaii, Harvard, Rich lawyer wife, etc. Regardless, IMO, poverty is not a prerequisite to be president.

I understand that many Obama supporters are rabid Bush/McCain haters. However, does that alone persuade them that Obama is qualified.

OH Epic Fail!

Nice one crud.

I would expect more from someone that quotes Solzhenitsyn.

Anyone like to make a case for Obama, or is it not possible given the facts?

Sorry it isn't worth the time:

You're not actually interested in the topic.
Your mind is already made up and no case would or could be persuasive.
McCain himself agrees; this "issue" such as it is, is done.

Again- you fail.

You are right that I won't vote for Obama. I did not pose the question asking to be persuaded. I ask because it is an interesting question and the answer would be enlightening.

Not worth the time, what else do you welfare folks have to do, not work obviously.

Originally Posted by Crud's Uncle

You are right that I won't vote for Obama. I did not pose the question asking to be persuaded. I ask because it is an interesting question and the answer would be enlightening.

Not worth the time, what else do you welfare folks have to do, not work obviously.

oooooohhhh scathing.

Does the guy you're going to vote for have any executive experience?

Didn't think so.

And Obama has never made the claim that poverty was what makes him more or less qualified than anyone else.

Why are you pulling shit out of your ass?

And you obviously now nothing about Hawaii, they have some severe problems with poverty.

Why can't anyone answer the question. Sure, you can attack, but a little intellectual honesty would be refreshing, but that takes actual thought.

I agree with the VP candidate, Obama does not have any experience. The VP candidate is Biden not Palin by the way.

Originally Posted by Crud's Uncle

However, Obama also grew up as a rich boy. Hawaii, Harvard, Rich lawyer wife, etc...

Raised by a single mother who was on public assistance (food stamps) on several occasions? Those must have been embarassing to use at the country club.

Do you have any idea of what you are talking about? Shit, why am I even responding to an alias? I blame Tip.

So let's sum this up. I am an ass, and Obama does not have any experience that qualifies him to be president.

Originally Posted by Crud's Uncle

So let's sum this up. I am an ass, and Obama does not have any experience that qualifies him to be president.

And the conclusion is, I am also an ass, and McCain has no more experience (under Crud's Uncle's definition) than does Obama that qualifies him to be president.

I agree you are an ass. McCain has vastly more experience as a Senator than Obama. He also was a commander in the military and thus had executive experience.

However, as always liberals are all show and no substance. Not one of you have stated why Obama is qualified. And I thought Republicans were the party of negative campaigning.

Originally Posted by Crud's Uncle

I agree you are an ass. McCain has vastly more experience as a Senator than Obama. He also was a commander in the military and thus had executive experience.

However, as always liberals are all show and no substance. Not one of you have stated why Obama is qualified. And I thought Republicans were the party of negative campaigning.

And you're either lazy or don't really care to find out anyhow...either way you post this thread and make yourself look uneducated and misinformed. You could have searched TGR and found multiple threads already on this. Stop being a JONG.

Originally Posted by Crud's Uncle

I am curious, what experience does Obama have that qualifies him to be president?

Here is his resume:

Community Organizer
Professor
State Legislator(Illinois part time legislator)
3 Years as a Senator, two years on the campaign trail
CEO of a presidential campaign.
Good speech reader

Ok I'll grab the bait.

Community organizer- Experience in bringing people to solve problems faced by a community. Just what we need as a country right now instead of partisan stalling.

Professor- The ability and desire to continually learn. The ability to use thought to process through a problem. The ability to break down very complex issues into language and guidance that can be understood by the layman.

State Legislator- Writing laws and seeing the impact of such on a large population center such as Chicago. Working with the executive branch to make sure laws are enforced.

3 Years as Senator- Experience on the national stage and under pressure from many angles. His ability to this to a high standard shows his aptitude for leading this country.

CEO of a presidental campaign- He was better at this than the frontrunning businessman of this election cycle, Romney. He was also better at this than Hillary, Huckabee, Paul, Biden and all others this election cycle. If he wins, he will have proven to be better at this than McCain and the entire Republican party.


Good Speech writer- When you need to convey a topic of discussion or a message to either the people who elected you or foreign governents, its important to be articulate and precise. Its also important to be understood and to sound intelligent.



So how exactly isn't he qualified?

I have no idea why I'm bothering to wade into this, but...

Obama is qualified to be president because:
-he's wicked smart
-he's a natural leader
-he has demonstrated that he is capable of bringing disagreeing sides to an agreeable consensus

Certainly not over qualified, but he does possess a number of characteristics that might make a good president.

But really, the question is pointless; he's qualified because he's an American born citizen over the age of 35. He's electable because its a popularity contest, and what he says appeals to lots of people. Also, he's really good at raising money.
(And I'm not saying that electable = will be elected).

Crud... I honestly don't think you are REALLY open to information on Obama, but will try just ONE angle to give you some understanding in case you are not totally hopeless.

What do you think about the totality of our countries experience in Iraq? Are you a die hard "Everything Bush/Cheney did was correct" Republican booster, or are you human and acknowledge they got many, hell... most things wrong there???

What if the President of the US was able to see past the "rah, rah America" part and have a nearly clairvoyant understanding of the pit falls that DID await us? You think it would have been a good thing???

This may take 10 minutes of your life, but watching these short few minute videos from BEFORE Iraq (and 2 years BEFORE Obamas speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention) could give you some insight into this subject;

Originally Posted by timvwcom

The TRUTH about what Obama said on Iraq War... (TGR thread)

I've seen a BUNCH of misunderstanding and misstatements around here about what Barack Obama said about the Iraq War... BEFORE the Iraq war.

Here are 3 youtube videos, none are lengthy... until you've viewed them you should probably refrain from acting like you know anything about this! The videos and brief summaries;

1) An interview from 11/4/2002 - about 4 months before the war. He talks about where the process is at that exact time, and how he would have voted on the resolution that passed in the Senate a couple months before.


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2) A video about his speech from about 2 weeks before vote on the war. The full original film of the speech was lost, but 13 seconds of his comments appear... followed by others reading the text from that exact speech, which is still available.


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3) An interview from 2007(?) Where he explains some of the information he had used in his decision and comments from the pre-war period.

Executive Experience doesn't make somone a good executive anyways. A good choice would be a GOOD executive. Someone with executive experience could suck at it, as well. It's pretty irrelevent, IMO.

He's got more experience than Lincoln had and less than Bush II. What's your point?