Knolly Endorphin Sizing

**skibumnh** · 06-23-2015, 03:18 PM

Looking at a '14 26" Endorphin in either a Medium or a Large.

5'10 32" inseam on my jeans, but I have the wingspan of someone ~6'1 (ape arms).

Height wise I should be on a medium according to Knolly - but based on stack and reach of my Pitch I should be on a Large.

I'm coming off a medium pitch with a 50mm stem 711mm bar that fits me awesome.

I mostly like to ride tech single track that is a lot of grinding, roots, rocks, drops, and some flow in between, but not a lot of sustained up or down.

Do I size up to a large endorphin and run a short stem (35-50mm), or go with the medium and run maybe a 70mm stem? Am I cheating myself out of a better ride or messing with the balance of the bike by sizing up?

	Pitch (M)	2013 Endorphin (M)	2013 Endorpin (L)
Seat Tube	444	428	483
Eff Top Tube	586	598	625
Wheel Base	1159	1141	1168
Head Angle	67	67	67
Eff Seat Angle	76	73.5	73.5
Seat Post Angle	73	69	69
BB Height	345	340	340
Chainstay	423	424	424
HT Length	108	118	125
Standover	752	729	742
Reach	446	420	447
Stack	581	583	583

**dfinn** · 06-23-2015, 03:23 PM

go large. I'm 5'11 and just came off a large '13 26" endo. I went to a slightly longer bike and am really liking the extra reach. I was running it with a 50mm stem.

**skibumnh** · 06-23-2015, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by dfinn

go large. I'm 5'11 and just came off a large '13 26" endo. I went to a slightly longer bike and am really liking the extra reach. I was running it with a 50mm stem.

Thanks this helps. I was actually combing through some of your old threads on this. Good stuff.

**sierraskier** · 06-23-2015, 07:47 PM

I think you definitely want a large. I'm pretty sure the Knolly's run smaller compared to Specialized. I'm an average 6' on the large '14 Endo, 150mm fork and with a 50 stem it feels pretty dialed, even slightly cramped at times. The Endo will be much more slacked out than your Pitch, but it's still very snappy and your only gaining 9mm of wheelbase. In my opinion, especially with this bike, it will be much better to size up and go down to a 35mm stem or make other small adjustments to the cockpit if you need to, but honestly you are probably perfect with a 50mm stem. I think you're gonna be VERY fired up on the bike coming over from a Pitch.

**joetron** · 06-23-2015, 10:49 PM

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**jm2e** · 06-26-2015, 08:01 AM

I'm the exact same size as the OP, including large ape index.
I went with a large Knolly vs a medium Knolly exactly one year ago and have been 100% satisfied with my decision ever sense. Running a 35mm Kore Repute stem. Fits like a lambskin condom.

**skibumnh** · 06-26-2015, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by jm2e

I'm the exact same size as the OP, including large ape index.
I went with a large Knolly vs a medium Knolly exactly one year ago and have been 100% satisfied with my decision ever sense. Running a 35mm Kore Repute stem. Fits like a lambskin condom.

I was slightly on the fence about my decision until this. Way to sell it.

**grinch** · 06-26-2015, 05:20 PM

Reach and stack r good indicators. Large chilli w 35mm stem and 750mm bar should fit like your pitch (40 additionals mills on yor bar adds roughly 20mm of reach)
Also, I see sac has large chilli frames on sale now