People not to trust - bigpete

**davep** · 05-14-2008, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by bigpetey05

why is it hard?

The price we agreed on was 500, and second this guy emailed me information showing me that I was about to get sued. That being said, I have spent a good amount of money attorney fees, and I would rather have them take their chance in court to get back my money, and charge this guy with some more fees.

I have provided all the information I possibly can to them, and have been waiting for cito's paperwork that he said he sent out.

**Mofro261** · 05-14-2008, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by bigpetey05

why is it hard?

The price we agreed on was 500, and second this guy emailed me information showing me that I was about to get sued. That being said, I have spent a good amount of money attorney fees, and I would rather have them take their chance in court to get back my money, and charge this guy with some more fees.

I have provided all the information I possibly can to them, and have been waiting for cito's paperwork that he said he sent out.

FUCK THAT BULLSHIT.

Your "attorney fees" don't mean dick and just prove WHAT A DUMB ASS YOU ARE for even seeking legal council over $542. IF you've spent a dime on fees that's YOUR mistake, next time wait until you've actually been filed on in small claims first.

PAY CITO $500 for 2 pr of skis AND $42 for shipping them to YOUR DUMB ASS in the first place.

And here's how the mail works dumbfuck, PUT a STAMP on it and an ADDRESS and it gets there. Damn near always. Check to see if your "lost" checks were cashed or did you put a stop payment on? You even have a checking acc.? Bullshit you sent a check TWICE and it didn't get there.

Pay cito what you owe him now.

**Danno** · 05-14-2008, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by bigpetey05

why is it hard?

The price we agreed on was 500, and second this guy emailed me information showing me that I was about to get sued. That being said, I have spent a good amount of money attorney fees, and I would rather have them take their chance in court to get back my money, and charge this guy with some more fees.

I have provided all the information I possibly can to them, and have been waiting for cito's paperwork that he said he sent out.

petey, davep is on to something, you're just proving your own retardedness here. A little lesson for you: in court, if it comes out that you have his skis and didn't pay, no matter how much you can prove that cito was an asshat, you'll still owe him the price of the skis. Know something else? You won't get any of your attorney fees covered. In fact, you may have to pay his. It's really quite simple: pay or return. Neither of you would be remotely happy by going to court, even if it was small claims with no attorneys.

I'm swinging back to cito on this one if you're admitting to holding on to the sticks and not paying a dime, never mind the fact that he's also an asshat.

**JimLad** · 05-14-2008, 11:06 PM

Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery

Tell you what boys, I'll organise your transactions in future, for a 10% cut. How does that sound?

**bigpetey05** · 05-14-2008, 11:08 PM

hey,

from what the attorneys said, i will probably be paying the for the ski's which i don't deny. But will get my attorneys cost back which is what I am just looking for.

I already tried to pay this guy, checks, bank deposit, even paypal.

its my mistake? when you see arushi law firm in your emails sent from this guy? its my mistake, when this guy tells you he comes from a big family of lawyers and is about to sue you. its my mistake, when this guy tells you to look up his name and hes dealt with the attorneys and federal court involved with millions of dollars in fraud. (http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nj/press/files/vita0925_r.htm)
i rather take my chances and protect myself and pay the attorney fees.

advres · 05-14-2008, 11:18 PM

^^ I didn't even know what half of that meant.

**davep** · 05-14-2008, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by bigpetey05

from what the attorneys said, i will probably be paying the for the ski's which i don't deny. But will get my attorneys cost back which is what I am just looking for.

Well, you got some very valuable information from those attornies: you will probably be paying for the skis. And now you have attorney fees. Strong work.

**bigpetey05** · 05-14-2008, 11:30 PM

hey danno,

in regards to your post about paying his fees.

I was told all of this when I was being consulted. Its a chance I am willing to take, like I said I provided the attorneys with everything they have requested. emails, canceled checks, pm's.

They seem ok and confident with everything, and in the end if he gets rewarded attorney and court cost, thats a different story.

**gholman12** · 05-14-2008, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by bigpetey05

(http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nj/press/files/vita0925_r.htm)

jesus christ. he told you about this and he wanted you to know he's a giant fucking thief... why?? is he proud?

EDIT: "Vitale [Cito] faces a maximum prison sentence of 10 years, and a fine of up to $500,000, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney Amy Winkelman." - now we know why he wants his money so bad!

**jSki** · 05-14-2008, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by bigpetey05

hey,

from what the attorneys said, i will probably be paying the for the ski's which i don't deny. But will get my attorneys cost back which is what I am just looking for.

I already tried to pay this guy, checks, bank deposit, even paypal.

its my mistake? when you see arushi law firm in your emails sent from this guy? its my mistake, when this guy tells you he comes from a big family of lawyers and is about to sue you. its my mistake, when this guy tells you to look up his name and hes dealt with the attorneys and federal court involved with millions of dollars in fraud. (http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nj/press/files/vita0925_r.htm)
i rather take my chances and protect myself and pay the attorney fees.

Is this fucking for real? You hired attorneys who in a mere two hours can cost more than the skis? Why not just send this guy a cheque via certified mail for the initial agreed price?

**bigpetey05** · 05-14-2008, 11:49 PM

jski yes this is for real.

don't you get it man this guy is a little crazy, i send out two checks they don't get return to me( he has them)...he tells me to return the ski's to him one min, than the next minute he tells me not to, than decides that he wants to sue me. i am thinking to my self this guy is really a nut case, he doesn't want his ski back he just wants to extort me for more money.

what would have made him happy?.....i have no clue

but i am going to stand up for what i believe in man.

**Nathan Explosion** · 05-14-2008, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by bigpetey05

jski yes this is for real.

don't you get it man this guy is a little crazy, i send out two checks they don't get return to me( he has them)...he tells me to return the ski's to him one min, than the next minute he tells me not to, than decides that he wants to sue me. i am thinking to my self this guy is really a nut case, he doesn't want his ski back he just wants to extort me for more money.

what would have made him happy?.....i have no clue

but i am going to stand up for what i believe in man.

No, we get it. You're both fucking stupid. Fire the attorneys, learn a lesson, and pay for the fucking skis. Did he cash the checks? Why the fuck do you have to make this so fucking difficult? Pay the man what you fucking owe, and the both of you stop fucking whining about this idiotic bullshit on the internet. This is the easiest problem to resolve I think I've ever seen, and both of you want to do anything but make it better.

Actually, I take it back. Keep the attorney, hell, hire a few others. You'll end up out the $542, and then out about $3000 or more in attorneys fees. You're both too fucking stupid to have this much money to waste.

**jSki** · 05-15-2008, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by bigpetey05

jski yes this is for real.

don't you get it man this guy is a little crazy, i send out two checks they don't get return to me( he has them)...he tells me to return the ski's to him one min, than the next minute he tells me not to, than decides that he wants to sue me. i am thinking to my self this guy is really a nut case, he doesn't want his ski back he just wants to extort me for more money.

what would have made him happy?.....i have no clue

but i am going to stand up for what i believe in man.

Fair enough. This sounds like a massive clusterfuck that wont be sorted out on the gear swap. Only advice is not to get in to deep of a hole with the attorneys. While they are out to serve your interest, like any other business, they are out to get paid.

Also, is this guy really Martin Vitale? Even though he was convicted of embezzlement, I think you need to be competent enough to make a coherent post in a forum to become a CEO of a major grocery chain. This guy is full of shit.

advres · 05-15-2008, 12:10 AM

**kalisto** · 05-15-2008, 01:00 AM

hahaha

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**Mr.Scruff** · 05-15-2008, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by commonlaw

Tons of easy solutions in this thread. BigPete, just send the skis back, keep confirmation, eat the shipping, fire your lawyer who is likely charging you decuple the shipping costs, and forget about Cito..

Do this.

Everyone else getting pissy at petey, READ THE FUCKING THREAD

**Sparky** · 05-15-2008, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by advres

What sort of maggots are you two? Get a grip.

Petey send skis back or $542 via certified mail. Job done.

**Danno** · 05-15-2008, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by bigpetey05

hey danno,

in regards to your post about paying his fees.

I was told all of this when I was being consulted. Its a chance I am willing to take, like I said I provided the attorneys with everything they have requested. emails, canceled checks, pm's.

They seem ok and confident with everything, and in the end if he gets rewarded attorney and court cost, thats a different story.

how do you have cancelled checks?

**Brock Landers** · 05-15-2008, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Brock Landers

I almost hope Cito never gets paid and bigpetey gets his skis run over by a Mac truck.

Still...

At this point I hope you both get run over by a mac truck. Save the skis.

Too harsh?

**x lurker** · 05-15-2008, 07:53 AM

Note to self - never sell or buy gear from either of these fucktards.

Petey - as a lawyer, I must say that the advice you are getting from your supposed lawyers is the stupidest advice I've ever heard. If those lawyers you've supposedly consulted were worth a grain of salt, they'd tell you to stop wasting your time with them and either PAY the fucking money or RETURN THE SKIS. Case closed, money saved, lesson learned. Don't those fuckwits have any better cases to work on than your stupid $500 ski case?

Cito looked more and more retarded as this thread went on, but your true colors are beginning to show. Put a stop payment on the checks you supposedly sent and either paypal or return skis.

You should both be banned from Gear Swap.

**toiletduck** · 05-15-2008, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

how do you have cancelled checks?

At least in the UK, cancelling cheques costs money, and they give you a reciept to say it's cancelled. I'd assume the same applies in the US?

**sloskier** · 05-15-2008, 08:31 AM

Petey, That's a guaranteed method of self-destruction. I bought some Jester's from you, great transaction and no complaints. But when you start talking about trying to collect attorney fees when their hasn't even been a suit filed, and your dealing with not only different jurisdictions but different states, I get concerned whether our next transaction would be that smooth. That's really a crazy idea. As a special master (not an attorney) for the family courts in this part of Idaho, I hear demands for retribution, not justice, all the time. They get ignored. Just pay the amount, take the high road, look like the good guy, and keep on magging with those who appreciate that you did the right thing.

**bite me** · 05-15-2008, 08:42 AM

First I though that Cito was a real tool. Now Petey is proving himself to be more than a little challenged.

I just want to know - what do you guys do for a living?

**Danno** · 05-15-2008, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by toiletduck

At least in the UK, cancelling cheques costs money, and they give you a reciept to say it's cancelled. I'd assume the same applies in the US?

In the US, "cancelled check" refers to a check that has been paid. In the old days before electronic banking, a bank would actually return the cancelled checks to you with the statement. Thus, if petey has a cancelled check, it would mean that cito deposited the check. Since both people seem to say that has not happened, I think petey is a delusional retard.

When you "stop payment" on a check you get a receipt, I'm sure, but you don't have a check in hand, there is no cancelled check.

and to think, I passed up a perfectly good opportunity to make fun of "cheque".

**toiletduck** · 05-15-2008, 08:48 AM

Fair enough - though, it stands to example that he could just be being retarded and mean he has recipets for "checks" that have been cancelled. I tried really hard to get "colour" and other correctly spelt words in here but couldn't think how

Originally Posted by Danno

and to think, I passed up a perfectly good opportunity to make fun of "cheque".

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