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04-05-2008, 08:46 PM #1
Alta demo day: Factor, Megawatt, Pogo, BD, Stunt
Me: 5'10" 180 lbs, strong skier, like to go fast, jump off stuff.
I like 192 bros, 187 THA, don't like skinny skis (<105mm i guess) or soft skis.
All the good things you've heard and then some. I skied them back to back with my Sally Course's (130 flex i believe). They aren't quite as stiff as my 130s, but they're pretty damn close. Stiff to the front, very stiff to either side, and alpine boot-like support to the back. Wide-ish forefoot with a pretty narrow heel. Low volume forefoot area. The liner was interesting, it has a wheel and wire closure system which was easy to use and seemed to work well, but I'd probably still use intuitions. Walk mode is good too, upper cuff goes well past vertical.
Fairly stiff, lots of tip rocker starting maybe 20" back from the tip. I didn't get to ski them in pow, mostly just dust on crust. I found them turny and kind of dead feeling. I'm sure they kick all kinds of ass in pow, but i didn't get to experience that. I might be a bit bitter. They would make a heavy touring ski.
Elan Pogo Holmes:
187 with 107mm underfoot. Small-ish radius, no idea what it actually is. After the megawatts, these felt short, light, and skinny. I was surprised to find one of the most fun playful skis i've ever been on. They made small and medium radius turns easily, were easy to throw sideways in the trees, busted through crud and chopped pow effortlessly, floated well, and were super poppy. Every time i hit a roller and jumped a bit I shot off with a surprising amount of air. Stomps felt solid, if a bit front seat.
Same dims as this year, tip and tail rocker (just a bit). Rocker starts a ways back from the tip but rises slowly. Ski was surprisingly light, not quite as stiff as I'd expected. Similar in flex to my Ninthward THA, maybe a bit softer. Almost impossible to carve. I got one in, but I think I might have imagined it. You really have to slide these around like Praxis on groomers. That being said, it is easier to do on the BD than Praxis. In pow and chopped pow they were f'n awesome. Fast, stable, unsinkable, super slarvy. A couple smaller drops (15'?) and stomps were effortless. Fun skis.
196 Scott Stunt
Meh. Big ass ski. Fairly stiff, 113 underfoot, painfully heavy with the tyrolia demos. I found them dead feeling, difficult to toss around, and a bit hooky in pow-no where near as stable as the BD. Maybe I'm just a pussy, but i hated these skis.
04-05-2008, 08:52 PM #2
Did you get out on the Kuros? I think I'm in love. I only had about 15 minutes to make a lap, I don't think I've ever made fewer turns down the trees around Race Course. Really brilliant on the hardpack for a ski of its girth/reverse camber. Just fun everywhere. Takes everything I liked about 'toons and Hellbents and looses the noodliness. Too bad 185 is the max length, though it looks longer than that.
Oh yeah, and the 194 XXLs are also alot of fun, but not as surprisingly so.
04-05-2008, 09:12 PM #3pura vida
- Join Date
- Mar 2006
- The bottom of LCC
I overheard someone in GMD saying the exact same things about the Megawatt and Pogo...unless that was you.
04-05-2008, 10:06 PM #4
me: 5'10 165 advanced skier
my current sticks: Fischer Atuas, Fischer Tstix , K2 Mt Baker
here's what i skied:
Fischer watea 101 - the got rid of the cutout in the back and added carbon i beams in the construction. great ski ,more stable than my 07's.
volkl chopsticks - don't know if it was the conditions just didn't call for this stick, but i hated it. don't know if it was tuned recently and didn't detune the tips but i found it catched a lot. might be a totally different beast on a deep powder day.
4frnt ehp 186 - i am in love. best ski i have skied, ever. i wish i could have kept this for the whole day. took it for two runs. one down some choped up stuff under sugarloaf then for a run down the castle. amazing. does what you want when you went. light for the size. i am buying these next year
after that i just wanted to enjoy the rest of the day of familiar planks and went back to my atuas
Last edited by cdlv; 04-06-2008 at 11:13 AM.another freak, in the freak kingdom.
04-05-2008, 11:07 PM #5Registered Lurker
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- Oct 2006
Yeah, I was really surprised by how good the Kuros were. I got to ski a bunch of demos a couple of weeks ago at Steven's. They were good on the groomers and soo much fun in the powder. First rockered ski I have ever skied though.
I didn't like the Megawatts though. I went in with high expectations though. They sounded alomst hollow and seemed to light to really charge through or over things. But I skied them on some dust on icebergs that would have been unpleasant on anything. They were good in the powder but I preferred the feel of the Kuros.
The Chopsticks felt ridiculous when I tried them, they were the first centermounted skis I have ever skied. I really liked them in powder, the rocker let me toss them around, but I was pretty tired at that point and they were work to get back to the lift on the groomers. It may have just been that they were rockerd that felt so good, but I wouldn't mind a pair as a kind of fuck around, spin and jib ski.
04-02-2009, 07:33 PM #6Registered
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- Feb 2004
Squirrel: How would you compare the Pogo to the THA 187? What about a Goat?
04-02-2009, 07:38 PM #7
Haven't actually skied a goat, pogo was lighter, way snappier, and it skied a bunch stiffer than the THA. My THA are also beat to shit, but it was pretty amazing how playful and poppy the Pogos were by comparison. Still think it would be a great ski to pick up if i ever found them for a good price.
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