Thread: Thanks Buster

for playing yesterday. this UN Oil For Food scandal has had me pissed all week. had to argue with someone(regardless of topic), to vent.

that is all

Sure. I'm glad to provide a sounding board for your irrelevant rants.

Corruption, the nature of any mature institution. I'm up for funding the Symbionese Liberation Army and the Weather Underground again any day.

What's the first mission, Commander?

Originally posted by Buster Highmen
Sure. I'm glad to provide a sounding board for your irrelevant rants.

Corruption, the nature of any mature institution. I'm up for funding the Symbionese Liberation Army and the Weather Underground again any day.

HEH


edit: as long as we're joking. let's display who the joke's on:

Police Officer Waverly Brown, 45, sipped his coffee while sitting in the diner on Broadway in the village of Nyack, New York on the afternoon of October 20, 1981. Nyack was a small community of 6,000 people situated on the banks of the majestic Hudson River. Officer Brown, known to virtually everyone as "Chipper," was a popular figure in the village, especially to young people, who frequently saw him as a counselor and friend. He was on the job for 13 years and, since the retirement of another African American, Officer Brown was the only black cop on the 22-man force. He served in the United States Air Force after the Korean War and later both his daughters also joined the military. When he finished his 20 years with the police, Chipper planned to retire to Virginia where he owned a house and some land. He was a solid six feet tall, had an easy smile and loved to garden and cook. He finished his coffee, tipped the waitress and walked out to his parked police unit.

At the same time, a short distance away in the Nyack Police Department radio room, Sergeant Ed O'Grady, 33, was talking with the police dispatcher. O'Grady was born and raised in Nyack. He knew everyone and everyone knew him. He served with the Marines in the Vietnam War during the 1960s and when he returned home, he joined the police department. O'Grady retained the discipline and conservatism of the Marines; his uniform and appearance were always exemplary. He was enrolled at St. Thomas Aquinas College and was close to receiving his bachelor's degree in criminal justice. Ed O'Grady and his wife, Diane, had three small children, Edward, 6, Patricia, 2, and Kimberly, six months.

A few miles away, on Route 59, a busy highway that runs east and west through Rockland County, an armored car was approaching the sprawling Nanuet Mall. Inside the truck, Brink's security guard Pete Paige, 49, was looking forward to the last pickup of the day. He was a hard-working, quiet sort of man and a veteran of the United States Navy. Pete was the guard that day. It was his role on that shift to guard the carrier of the money. Pete and his wife, Josephine, had three children, Susan, 19, Michael, 16, and Peter, age 9. He worked as an armed guard for the Brink's Corporation since 1956 and had never been involved in a robbery.

This would be his first, and his last

I'll fund weather report
http://www.duke.edu/~cwh/Webpage/ws-...r%20report.jpg
Buster knows how I feel about Wayne shorter

Originally posted by splat
What's the first mission, Commander?

The first mission is the position.

Thereafter, we'll take out Monsanto, Haliburton, Shell, GlaxoSmithKline, BP/Amaco, ChevronTexaco, ExxonMobil Refining and Supply Company, Tesoro, ConocoPhillips, Burlington Northern/Santa Fe, Plum Creek, Weyerhauser, General Motors, PepsiCo, Walmart, Enron, WolrdCom, DaimlerChrysler.

Then we'll go after their hencepeople, the Governments.


"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. ... corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." -- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864 (letter to Col. William F. Elkins) Ref: "The Lincoln Encyclopedia", Archer H. Shaw (Macmillan, 1950, NY)

Of the U.S. corporations on the list, 44 did not pay the full standard 35 percent federal corporate tax rate during the period 1996-1998. Seven of the firms actually paid less than zero in federal income taxes in 1998 (because of rebates). These include: Texaco, Chevron, PepsiCo, Enron, Worldcom, McKesson and the world's biggest corporation - General Motors

Mr. Burns - This leader is rich and powerful just like me except he seems to enjoy a tax free status

Mr. Smithers- with our creative accounting sir we only paid 3 dollars in taxes last year

Mr. Burns - you're right Smithers we are getting screwed !

Originally posted by mr_gyptian
HEH


edit: as long as we're joking. let's display who the joke's on:

No joke. Kathy Boudin is out today. Gilbert is still in. War is never pretty. Whether it be garbed in patriotism or not, there are always innocent victims.

Originally posted by Buster Highmen
Sure. I'm glad to provide a sounding board for your irrelevant rants.

Corruption, the nature of any mature institution. I'm up for funding the Symbionese Liberation Army and the Weather Underground again any day.

I'm mailing a contribution today... any chance this is tax-deductible?

Originally posted by Greydon Clark
I'm mailing a contribution today... any chance this is tax-deductible?

Discorporation is the only tax dodge we allow.

FZ: The first word in this song is discorporate. It means to leave your body

Discorporate & come with me
Shifting; drifting
Cloudless; starless
VELVET VALLEYS & A SAPPHIRE
SEA: Wah Wah

Unbind your mind
There is no time
To lick your stamps
And paste them in
DISCORPORATE
And we will begin . . .WAH WAH!
(Flower Power Sucks)

Diamonds on velvets on goldens on vixen
On comet & cupid on donner & blitzen
On up & away & afar & a go-go
Escape from the weight of your corporate logo!

UNBIND YOUR MIND
THERE IS NO TIME
Boin-n-n-n-n-n-g
TO LICK YOUR STAMPS
AND PASTE THEM IN
DISCORPORATE
AND WE'LL BEGIN
FREEDOM! FREEDOM!
KINDLY LOVING!
YOU'LL BE ABSOLUTELY FREE
ONLY IF YOU WANT TO BE

Dreaming on cushions of velvet & satin
To music by magic by people that happen
To enter the world of a strange purple Jello
The dreams as they live them are all mellow yellow

UNBIND YOUR MIND
THERE IS NO TIME
Boin-n-n-n-n-n-g
TO LICK YOUR STAMPS
AND PASTE THEM IN
DISCORPORATE
AND WE'LL BEGIN
FREEDOM! FREEDOM!
KINDLY LOVING!
YOU'LL BE ABSOLUTELY FREE
ONLY IF YOU WANT TO BE

YOU'LL BE ABSOLUTELY FREE
ONLY IF YOU WANT TO BE

WoW, you've rendered me speechless. Silly me, I thought you were being sarcastic.

Originally posted by mr_gyptian
WoW, you've rendered me speechless. Silly me, I thought you were being sarcastic.

Promise?

in a word. no.

one question, though. The SLA and the Underground Weatherman, where are they today? Their war musn't have amounted to much. it affected no change. we are apparently under worse corruption now than ever before, as per you. POTUS is from that very generation, yet represents everything you seem to hate. what happened?? couldn't bomb enough INNOCENT AMERICANS? decide to raise a family in Minnesota until you were found. then snivel in front of a court about how things were different back then. that you had a cause? what cause?

what I love about this board, is that I make one crack about how African's shouldn't get goods and services from us for free and I get shit on. Buster, the reputed smartest person on the board. Makes a flip comment about killing, no wait MURDERING INNOCENT AMERICANS. Not even a peep out of any of you.

typical.

Bernadine Dorne has a few things to say in this regard. It has amounted to something which is carried on against the WTO, against the World Bank and against Multinational corporations. Evidently, you didn't read that part above.

Smearing together ideologies and generations is far below you. Or so I had thought.

Nationalism is a growing sickness as evidenced. How many innocent Afghanis and Iraqis have been killed by US forces? What makes them less important?

(edit) I did not make any flip comments about murdering anyone. That is something you read into these bitsy characters. I did mention the death of innocents.


I'm not buying this nationalist concept. I tried to make a point and did, but the substance of it flew over your head.

no it didn't. there is a difference. I'd think a person as nuanced as yourself could understand that. we were not, are not, and will not target innocent civilians. We painstakingly follow rules of engagement. SLA and UW were targeting their fellow citizens. To rob banks to fund their bankrupt (on so many levels) revolution.

an example of how you process information would be the latter headline:


There are two ways, I suppose, one could inform readers of the Geneva Convention stipulation against using places of worship to conduct military attacks. One might be to headline saying that Terrorists Attack Coalition Forces From Mosques. That would be one way to present the information.

Another might be to say: Mosques Targeted in Fallujah. That was the Los Angeles Times headline this morning.

Originally posted by mr_gyptian
we were not, are not, and will not target innocent civilians.

This would assume we are not following our inglorious history of assinating civillians in Vietnam, firebombing Tokyo, providing smallpox laden blankets to Native Americans...

Originally posted by Buster Highmen

How many innocent Afghanis and Iraqis have been killed by US forces? What makes them less important?

That is a complete cop out . Your saying that all people are equal but your really saying that white lower middle/ working class non-union people who spent some time in the military, their lives are really not that important in the greater scheme of things as the radicalized middle class college educated.

Yes innocents die in war. But you could say how terrible the US/UK was bombing those innocent Germans. The individuals are innocent, but not the society to which they belong to.

I'm not a fan of the war in Iraq. Not because it will not make on whole the lives of Iraqi people better but as it is not in the interest of the west.

Originally posted by DougW
I'm not a fan of the war in Iraq. Not because it will not make on whole the lives of Iraqi people better but as it is not in the interest of the west.

Holy crap, where are you coming off expressing an intelligent but non-conformist opinion? Don't you realize you are only allowed to be "left" or "right" in this thread?

Originally posted by grrrr
This would assume we are not following our inglorious history of assinating civillians in Vietnam, firebombing Tokyo, providing smallpox laden blankets to Native Americans...

or training some of our continents most notorious mass murderers, torturers, dictators and state terrorists through the School of the Americas.

Originally posted by DougW
I'm not a fan of the war in Iraq. . .as it is not in the interest of the west.

It is solely in the West's interest, though...Think the Pentagon/Administration gives a rat's ass about Iraqis? They wanted to get Saddam Hussein since the first Gulf War (he tried to kill GWB's daddy, y'know), and 9/11 gave them an excuse to do it (with their failed attempts to connect Iraq to al-Qaeda, etc.).
The Iraqi people's welfare was just another predicate for Saddam's removal.

Originally posted by grrrr
This would assume we are not following our inglorious history of assinating civillians in Vietnam, firebombing Tokyo, providing smallpox laden blankets to Native Americans...

I was speaking to Afghanistan and Iraq. However, I think both the Germans and Japanese kind of took the whole "innocent civilian" thing off the table. Just ask the Chinese, Koreans, English, or European Jews. I could go on. I suppose Native Americans weren't really killing settlers regardless of whether or not they were a part of the Army. could be propaganda I don't know.

Originally posted by mr_gyptian
However, I think the... Japanese kind of took the whole "innocent civilian" thing off the table.

Yeah, we really had to nuke Nagasaki after Hiroshima...Just to make the point, right?

kinda seems like it did.

Originally posted by mr_gyptian
kinda seems like it did.

Congratulations. Your callous disregard for human life just got you "ignored."

So, what you're saying is "he pushed me first"?