Why does Whistler Blackcomb suck?

**Bring On The Snow** · 08-30-2007, 06:02 PM

Ive actually rarely ever seen it rain in whistler in febuary

its not fair to say that it rains all the time when its raining in the village which is close the ocean and only at 2000 feet, I think of the village not as the base of a mountain but more of a town close to a mountain it rarely rains in the upper 2/3 of the mountain during winter and gets way more snow than most american resorts also if you say it rains too much at whistler and thats what makes it crappy are you also saying that baker also has crap snow because if its raining at whistler its raining harder at baker and i dont here alot of complaints about that. also as to your issue with crowds you where obviously just being a gaper touron and sticking to whistler skiing the most obvious runs any idiot can see because i have rarely waited in vary long lineups at all over on blackcomb. also there is plenty of good tree skiing in that "useless bottom 4000ft" as to the bad vis as i have said b4 snow comes from clouds so badvis= snow,most the time it also keeps gapers out of the alpine.

There i resisted for as long as i could but i had to do it i had to argue with him outright now its out of my system and ill shutup

alpinekook · 08-30-2007, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Bring On The Snow

gay porn?

Another reason why Whistler sucks. Apparently all the locals can talk about are gay pride parades, getting ass reamed, and gay porn.

**PulverSchwein** · 08-30-2007, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by alpinekook

I had my original post, 3 posts made within a 10 min time frame, and 2 others. Trust me I've been doing plenty of other stuff on the web.......... How the fuck can it rain at a ski resort in Feb?!?! For fucks sake it even snows in freakin Tennesse and Georgia in Feb!

yer pretty funny kook. You should ask the gang who ski Baker and the other WA resorts about rain.

alpinekook · 08-30-2007, 06:07 PM

FOR CHRISTS SAKE IT EVEN FUCKING SNOWS AT THE RESORTS OUTSIDE OF LOS ANGELES IN JAN AND FEB!

**bigbuds** · 08-30-2007, 06:13 PM

^^^ Grow up buddy... Didn't your mom ever tell you "if you aint got nothin nice to say don't say it at all." Whistler is the shit but that's beside the point, your a fucking flamer.

alpinekook · 08-30-2007, 06:14 PM

IT EVEN SNOWS IN HAWAII IN JAN AND FEB!

**Big-In-Japan** · 08-30-2007, 06:15 PM

Would everybody just stop feeding the troll?

alpinekook · 08-30-2007, 06:17 PM

Japan sucks.

**Bring On The Snow** · 08-30-2007, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Big-In-Japan

Would everybody just stop feeding the troll?

Naw its kinda fun, and giving me something to do on a boring afternoon

oh shit i said id shutup, i lied

alpinekook · 08-30-2007, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Bring On The Snow

Naw its kinda fun, and giving me something to do on a boring afternoon

oh shit i said id shutup, i lied

You know how I can tell you're a chick? You sound stupid.

**Bring On The Snow** · 08-30-2007, 06:22 PM

really you can hear me when you read my writing, i must be like god or something

im a dude btw

and if you want to read somthing stupid you should check back on some of ur own posts

alpinekook · 08-30-2007, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bring On The Snow

im a dude btw

Oh. It must have been all your references to gay parades, ass reaming and gay porn that threw me off.

**Bring On The Snow** · 08-30-2007, 06:27 PM

im pretty sure you`ve brought up ur unfortunate insident during pride more than anyone else

**rideit** · 08-30-2007, 06:31 PM

Why are so many anime fans rude and ignorant?

I've been brooding on this for years now. Every convention I go to, every time I check out an anime club, every time I even come here a small part of my brain dies. Almost every time I do anything related to anime, where there are other people who like it around me, I am forced to listen or witness countless acts of stupidity and ignorance. I get the joy of hearing such ignorant, biased, and unintelligent rants and speeches that they make me want to go on a murderous rampage. Why are so many anime fans so freaking ignorant and stupid? Everywhere you go there are countless examples of fans who display such acts of mindless ignorance that you're left wondering if this is a hobby you even want to be associated with. I pride myself on enjoying what I like regardless of what people think. Yet even I find myself sneaking through the anime isle of Bestbuy so as to not be seen by people. "So how exactly are so many fans stupid and ignorant?" Glad you asked. Here are some of the most common examples. I'm sure all of you can list many more but lets focus on some of the most obvious and, as far as I'm concerned, some of the worst in terms of people's behavior. Mind you these are all examples of the extremes for the respective side(s) I mention and not the overall norm. I will also exclude my own personal opinions and simply state examples of said extreme behavior.

Number one, the sub vs. dub people. Probably the oldest battle in the anime industry for fans. Should I watch it in its native language, or should I watch the dubs our companies give us. Go watch what you want, how you want it. Just don't go telling others how they have to watch it. I can't go to a con, or go a week here anymore, without seeing yet another useless debate on how everyone should watch their anime. The sub purists would have you believe, and remind you quite often, that the only true way to watch anime is subbed. The dubs are all horrible and the voice actors should all be dragged behind a pick up truck like the dogs they are. They won't hesitate to completely bash the whole American, or insert country you live in, anime industry. if it's not Japanese it sucks! On the reverse you have the dub purists. Their arguments range from; "This is America and we speak English here," (Which we actually don't, we speak American. English is the good ole King's English that is spoken in ENGLAND and not in America. Not anymore since our little party anyway.) to "I don't wanna have to read while I watch my anime." Regardless of reason they have the general attitude they should be catered to and not have to show any respect for the native language the anime came from. Either way you are forced to listen to purists who think they have a right to act like ignorant jerks with a right to tell you how you should watch YOUR anime at YOUR place.

Number two, the fansubbers and R1 purists (as I call them). Now we have 2 sides debating on how you obtain your anime. So before you even deal with the people telling you how to watch your anime you gotta deal with the people telling you what format to buy. Joy of joys. On the one side are the fansub watchers, and creators. They feel they're entitled to the anime and shouldn't have to pay for it. Why pay for what you can get for free right? "I shouldn't pay for a horrible series I might not like anyway." Nice attitude, you guys must be the children of politicians. The extremists on this side simply refuse to spend one dime on the industry they claim to like. How they think that's somehow productive is beyond me. That's not even accounting for the fact they're actually illegal anyway. They break the law but want to argue morality. Riiiggghhtttt.You also have the R1 purists. Their attitude is if you even look at a fansub for one second you're nothing but a thief and devil worshiper and will burn for all eternity in the fires of hell. Even if you buy the dvds later you're still a low down thief and not a true anime fan. As with the sub and dub people these two groups waste no time bashing you for not agreeing with them and their views. Now I'm wrong for the format and language I watch anime with.

Number 3, the anti hentai, yaoi, and yuri crowd. Oh! great, so you mean to tell me besides being told what format to get and what language to watch it in I'm not being told what I can even buy. Such a fun hobby this anime. These extremists would have you believe by watching this sexual or "gay" filth you'll burn right along with those fansub watchers. I've seen lines here at ANN by people who say if you watch hentai it's a circle ending in rape. Others will say you're just a pathetic single person who can't get any. By watching hentai you're nothing but a sexual deviant. As for those "gay" anime viewers who like they're yuri and yaoi. They're even more depraved then the hentai watchers. Being gay seems to be morally wrong for these haters and they seem to think that just because you watch yuri or yaoi you must also in turn be gay. Better burn them with the hentai watchers and fansub watchers. Here's a true story. At Otakon 2006 there was a panel, keep it anonymous, next door to the late night guests uncut panel. Some wonderful fan had a sign that said "This is the line for the uncut panel." Right below it however was "Have fun at the "X" panel getting aids." These are my peers in the anime fandom?

Last on this magical voyage are the fanboys and fangirls. So besides being told what format to watch, what language to watch it in, and what content to buy I have to deal with being slapped in the ass with a freakin paddle or tackled by some tween! What is wrong with people?! I'm going to hell for watching hentai, burning even more for downloading, a traitor to America for watching subs, and I also get to be hit with a damn paddle by some little snot running up and down the halls squealing like a stuffed pig because that guy over there looks like Yuki from Fruit's Basket. The extreme of this group seem to think it's ok to run up and glomp, which is short for assault, me and then smack me with a wooden paddle before running off. They think inserting Japanese words into their daily speech is so kawaaaiiiii. The really sad fact is it's not just kids under the age of say 14 or 15. It's freaking grown adults too! While they may not lecture you, as the above mentioned groups, they gleefully violate your personal space and harass you. Then they call you a baka because you're so last week and not up with current Japanese trends.

With all of these insightful and courteous people why on Earth would someone be ashamed to admit they like anime? These examples, among so many others, are the reason people look down on anime fans. This is why we're seen as nothing but degenerates, immature, etc etc. While for some this may not phase you at all, for some it's a constant problem. I personally don't care what others think about my hobbies. However, I don't want to have to hear snickers and rude comments every time I walk into the anime isle in any store. Why can't so many people show some restraint? Why do they feel the need to shove their values, beliefs, or ideas onto everyone else? You wanna watch dubs or subs fine, watch them and shut up. You don't like hentai, fine just don't go picketing at conventions and saying comments like it all leads to rape. It's called moderation and personal responsibility. Two concepts lost on so many people. I mean for crying out loud anime is simply cartoons. yes, they are made for adults and more mature audiences then say you're Scooby Doo crowd. In the end though they are still by definition cartoons. You're telling me you're going to act rude and ignorant over a cartoon. Anime is supposed to fun and make you laugh, cry and go through all the other emotions, not create all sorts of extremists and rude jerks. I by no means want to infer all anime fans are like this. As I said these are just the extremist groups. I am no saint but I'm pretty sure I've never told someone they're a rapist for watching hentai, or sexual harassed someone by slapping their ass with paddle (against their will mind you). If you find yourself preaching to or insulting people with any of the examples above, or others, you need to take a step and grow up. Anime is a hobby, not a religious crusade to take back the holy land. You wanna argue your views then go ahead, but show some damn common sense and common decency towards people for crying out loud. Quit ruining it for the rest of us please.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Next up is Yifan Sun. We get a lot of rants about fans here, so just be forgiving.

This rant is not about fansubs, lolicon, or bad dubbing. Instead, I'd like to address people who negatively identify any particular anime with its fans.

Now, we see this kind of behavior all the time, but oftentimes we've grown accustomed to this without examining the implications behind it. It's not too uncommon to see people who denounce Naruto as childishly immature, Kanon as pandering to a worthless moe subculture, or Ouran High School Host Club as merely satisfying the insatiable appetites of fangirls. Even though I don't even like some of those shows, it still infuriates me to hear such "critiques" of a show. Each of these criticisms are disguised as "problems" present in the show, miss-targeting the series itself as a way to hit home against the true target: the show's fans. To me, it seems like censures such as these are nothing more than indirect insults against the fans of these anime, manifested by the vibrant anti-fandom groups.

alpinekook · 08-30-2007, 06:34 PM

Uh

Originally Posted by rideit

Why are so many anime fans rude and ignorant?

I've been brooding on this for years now. Every convention I go to, every time I check out an anime club, every time I even come here a small part of my brain dies. Almost every time I do anything related to anime, where there are other people who like it around me, I am forced to listen or witness countless acts of stupidity and ignorance. I get the joy of hearing such ignorant, biased, and unintelligent rants and speeches that they make me want to go on a murderous rampage. Why are so many anime fans so freaking ignorant and stupid? Everywhere you go there are countless examples of fans who display such acts of mindless ignorance that you're left wondering if this is a hobby you even want to be associated with. I pride myself on enjoying what I like regardless of what people think. Yet even I find myself sneaking through the anime isle of Bestbuy so as to not be seen by people. "So how exactly are so many fans stupid and ignorant?" Glad you asked. Here are some of the most common examples. I'm sure all of you can list many more but lets focus on some of the most obvious and, as far as I'm concerned, some of the worst in terms of people's behavior. Mind you these are all examples of the extremes for the respective side(s) I mention and not the overall norm. I will also exclude my own personal opinions and simply state examples of said extreme behavior.

Number one, the sub vs. dub people. Probably the oldest battle in the anime industry for fans. Should I watch it in its native language, or should I watch the dubs our companies give us. Go watch what you want, how you want it. Just don't go telling others how they have to watch it. I can't go to a con, or go a week here anymore, without seeing yet another useless debate on how everyone should watch their anime. The sub purists would have you believe, and remind you quite often, that the only true way to watch anime is subbed. The dubs are all horrible and the voice actors should all be dragged behind a pick up truck like the dogs they are. They won't hesitate to completely bash the whole American, or insert country you live in, anime industry. if it's not Japanese it sucks! On the reverse you have the dub purists. Their arguments range from; "This is America and we speak English here," (Which we actually don't, we speak American. English is the good ole King's English that is spoken in ENGLAND and not in America. Not anymore since our little party anyway.) to "I don't wanna have to read while I watch my anime." Regardless of reason they have the general attitude they should be catered to and not have to show any respect for the native language the anime came from. Either way you are forced to listen to purists who think they have a right to act like ignorant jerks with a right to tell you how you should watch YOUR anime at YOUR place.

Number two, the fansubbers and R1 purists (as I call them). Now we have 2 sides debating on how you obtain your anime. So before you even deal with the people telling you how to watch your anime you gotta deal with the people telling you what format to buy. Joy of joys. On the one side are the fansub watchers, and creators. They feel they're entitled to the anime and shouldn't have to pay for it. Why pay for what you can get for free right? "I shouldn't pay for a horrible series I might not like anyway." Nice attitude, you guys must be the children of politicians. The extremists on this side simply refuse to spend one dime on the industry they claim to like. How they think that's somehow productive is beyond me. That's not even accounting for the fact they're actually illegal anyway. They break the law but want to argue morality. Riiiggghhtttt.You also have the R1 purists. Their attitude is if you even look at a fansub for one second you're nothing but a thief and devil worshiper and will burn for all eternity in the fires of hell. Even if you buy the dvds later you're still a low down thief and not a true anime fan. As with the sub and dub people these two groups waste no time bashing you for not agreeing with them and their views. Now I'm wrong for the format and language I watch anime with.

Number 3, the anti hentai, yaoi, and yuri crowd. Oh! great, so you mean to tell me besides being told what format to get and what language to watch it in I'm not being told what I can even buy. Such a fun hobby this anime. These extremists would have you believe by watching this sexual or "gay" filth you'll burn right along with those fansub watchers. I've seen lines here at ANN by people who say if you watch hentai it's a circle ending in rape. Others will say you're just a pathetic single person who can't get any. By watching hentai you're nothing but a sexual deviant. As for those "gay" anime viewers who like they're yuri and yaoi. They're even more depraved then the hentai watchers. Being gay seems to be morally wrong for these haters and they seem to think that just because you watch yuri or yaoi you must also in turn be gay. Better burn them with the hentai watchers and fansub watchers. Here's a true story. At Otakon 2006 there was a panel, keep it anonymous, next door to the late night guests uncut panel. Some wonderful fan had a sign that said "This is the line for the uncut panel." Right below it however was "Have fun at the "X" panel getting aids." These are my peers in the anime fandom?

Last on this magical voyage are the fanboys and fangirls. So besides being told what format to watch, what language to watch it in, and what content to buy I have to deal with being slapped in the ass with a freakin paddle or tackled by some tween! What is wrong with people?! I'm going to hell for watching hentai, burning even more for downloading, a traitor to America for watching subs, and I also get to be hit with a damn paddle by some little snot running up and down the halls squealing like a stuffed pig because that guy over there looks like Yuki from Fruit's Basket. The extreme of this group seem to think it's ok to run up and glomp, which is short for assault, me and then smack me with a wooden paddle before running off. They think inserting Japanese words into their daily speech is so kawaaaiiiii. The really sad fact is it's not just kids under the age of say 14 or 15. It's freaking grown adults too! While they may not lecture you, as the above mentioned groups, they gleefully violate your personal space and harass you. Then they call you a baka because you're so last week and not up with current Japanese trends.

With all of these insightful and courteous people why on Earth would someone be ashamed to admit they like anime? These examples, among so many others, are the reason people look down on anime fans. This is why we're seen as nothing but degenerates, immature, etc etc. While for some this may not phase you at all, for some it's a constant problem. I personally don't care what others think about my hobbies. However, I don't want to have to hear snickers and rude comments every time I walk into the anime isle in any store. Why can't so many people show some restraint? Why do they feel the need to shove their values, beliefs, or ideas onto everyone else? You wanna watch dubs or subs fine, watch them and shut up. You don't like hentai, fine just don't go picketing at conventions and saying comments like it all leads to rape. It's called moderation and personal responsibility. Two concepts lost on so many people. I mean for crying out loud anime is simply cartoons. yes, they are made for adults and more mature audiences then say you're Scooby Doo crowd. In the end though they are still by definition cartoons. You're telling me you're going to act rude and ignorant over a cartoon. Anime is supposed to fun and make you laugh, cry and go through all the other emotions, not create all sorts of extremists and rude jerks. I by no means want to infer all anime fans are like this. As I said these are just the extremist groups. I am no saint but I'm pretty sure I've never told someone they're a rapist for watching hentai, or sexual harassed someone by slapping their ass with paddle (against their will mind you). If you find yourself preaching to or insulting people with any of the examples above, or others, you need to take a step and grow up. Anime is a hobby, not a religious crusade to take back the holy land. You wanna argue your views then go ahead, but show some damn common sense and common decency towards people for crying out loud. Quit ruining it for the rest of us please.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Next up is Yifan Sun. We get a lot of rants about fans here, so just be forgiving.

This rant is not about fansubs, lolicon, or bad dubbing. Instead, I'd like to address people who negatively identify any particular anime with its fans.

Now, we see this kind of behavior all the time, but oftentimes we've grown accustomed to this without examining the implications behind it. It's not too uncommon to see people who denounce Naruto as childishly immature, Kanon as pandering to a worthless moe subculture, or Ouran High School Host Club as merely satisfying the insatiable appetites of fangirls. Even though I don't even like some of those shows, it still infuriates me to hear such "critiques" of a show. Each of these criticisms are disguised as "problems" present in the show, miss-targeting the series itself as a way to hit home against the true target: the show's fans. To me, it seems like censures such as these are nothing more than indirect insults against the fans of these anime, manifested by the vibrant anti-fandom groups.

**PulverSchwein** · 08-30-2007, 06:36 PM

good post rideit, worthy of the thread

**f2f** · 08-30-2007, 06:38 PM

i replaced all instances of "anime fans" with "skiers" but that yielded nothing.

my next attempt will replace "anime" with "farts", "sub" with "silent" and "dub" with "deadly". wish me luck!

**rideit** · 08-30-2007, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by PulverSchwein

good post rideit, worthy of the thread

Thanks.
I found this post on the side of the road, after being hit by a semi on the Sea-to-Sky, and I nursed it back to health on a mixture of Sushi and Cold Poutine.

obviously, I have let it go, back into the wild, where it belongs.
I truly hope that it perseveres, and finds a mate to have a litter with.

If you want, donations can be made to the dumpster behind Tim Horton's in Squamish, just put them in an envelope marked 'for the children'.

alpinekook · 08-30-2007, 06:42 PM

Whistler still sucks.

Rooster · 08-30-2007, 06:44 PM

I think you suck.

**GoNads** · 08-30-2007, 06:50 PM

Haha, you CLEARLY don't know where to ski. I had some of the best days last year when everyone like you pussyfooted on down off the mountain because it was "overcast" or "raining bellow midstation". So what if the lower half is blue groomers? The ONLY time I EVER touch bellow midstation is on my ski out! You know, there's this magical place called the "Alpine".

I could go into more detail about where to ski and why its nothing like you say it is but then I'd be having more yetis to deal with on hill. So yes.

WHISTLER IS TERRIBLE. ITS RAINY AND CLOUDY AND IT NEVER SNOWS. ONLY RAIN. ITS ALL BLUE GROOMERS SO GET THE HELL OFF MY HILL. Tell your friends while you're at it too please.

**f2f** · 08-30-2007, 06:51 PM

Why are so many fart fans rude and ignorant?

I've been brooding on this for years now. Every convention I go to, every time I check out an fart club, every time I even come here a small part of my brain dies. Almost every time I do anything related to farting, where there are other people who like it around me, I am forced to listen or witness countless acts of stupidity and ignorance. I get the joy of hearing such ignorant, biased, and unintelligent rants and speeches that they make me want to go on a murderous rampage. Why are so many fart fans so freaking ignorant and stupid? Everywhere you go there are countless examples of fans who display such acts of mindless ignorance that you're left wondering if this is a hobby you even want to be associated with. I pride myself on enjoying what I like regardless of what people think. Yet even I find myself sneaking through the fart isle of Bestbuy so as to not be seen by people. "So how exactly are so many fans stupid and ignorant?" Glad you asked. Here are some of the most common examples. I'm sure all of you can list many more but lets focus on some of the most obvious and, as far as I'm concerned, some of the worst in terms of people's behavior. Mind you these are all examples of the extremes for the respective side(s) I mention and not the overall norm. I will also exclude my own personal opinions and simply state examples of said extreme behavior.

Number one, the silent-but-deadly vs. loud-and-deadly people. Probably the oldest battle in the fart industry for fans. Should I sniff it in its native language, or should I sniff the loud-and-deadlys our companies give us. Go sniff what you want, how you want it. Just don't go telling others how they have to sniff it. I can't go to a con, or go a week here anymore, without seeing yet another useless debate on how everyone should sniff their fart. The silent-but-deadly purists would have you believe, and remind you quite often, that the only true way to sniff fart is when it's silent-but-deadly. The loud-and-deadlys are all horrible and the voice actors should all be dragged behind a pick up truck like the dogs they are. They won't hesitate to completely bash the whole American, or insert country you live in, fart industry. if it's not Japanese it sucks! On the reverse you have the loud-and-deadly purists. Their arguments range from; "This is America and we speak English here," (Which we actually don't, we speak American. English is the good ole King's English that is spoken in ENGLAND and not in America. Not anymore since our little party anyway.) to "I don't wanna have to read while I sniff my fart." Regardless of reason they have the general attitude they should be catered to and not have to show any respect for the native language the fart came from. Either way you are forced to listen to purists who think they have a right to act like ignorant jerks with a right to tell you how you should sniff YOUR fart at YOUR place.

Number two, the own-farts and foreign-fart purists (as I call them). Now we have 2 sides debating on how you obtain your fart. So before you even deal with the people telling you how to sniff your fart you gotta deal with the people telling you what format to buy. Joy of joys. On the one side are the own-fart sniffers, and creators. They feel they're entitled to the fart and shouldn't have to pay for it. Why pay for what you can get for free right? "I shouldn't pay for a horrible series I might not like anyway." Nice attitude, you guys must be the children of politicians. The extremists on this side simply refuse to spend one dime on the industry they claim to like. How they think that's somehow productive is beyond me. That's not even accounting for the fact they're actually illegal anyway. They break the law but want to argue morality. Riiiggghhtttt.You also have the R1 purists. Their attitude is if you even look at a own-fart for one second you're nothing but a thief and devil worshiper and will burn for all eternity in the fires of hell. Even if you buy the dvds later you're still a low down thief and not a true fart fan. As with the silent-but-deadly and loud-and-deadly people these two groups waste no time bashing you for not agreeing with them and their views. Now I'm wrong for the format and language I sniff fart with.

Number 3, the anti sharts crowd. Oh! great, so you mean to tell me besides being told what format to get and what language to sniff it in I'm not being told what I can even buy. Such a fun hobby this fart. These extremists would have you believe by sniffing this sexual or "gay" filth you'll burn right along with those own-fart sniffers. I've seen lines here at ANN by people who say if you sniff sharts it's a circle ending in rape. Others will say you're just a pathetic single person who can't get any. By sniffing sharts you're nothing but a sexual deviant. As for those "gay" fart viewers who like they're yuri and yaoi. They're even more depraved then the sharts sniffers. Being gay seems to be morally wrong for these haters and they seem to think that just because you sniff yuri or yaoi you must also in turn be gay. Better burn them with the sharts sniffers and own-fart sniffers. Here's a true story. At Otakon 2006 there was a panel, keep it anonymous, next door to the late night guests uncut panel. Some wonderful fan had a sign that said "This is the line for the uncut panel." Right below it however was "Have fun at the "X" panel getting aids." These are my peers in the fart fandom?

Last on this magical voyage are the fanboys and fangirls. So besides being told what format to sniff, what language to sniff it in, and what content to buy I have to deal with being slapped in the ass with a freakin paddle or tackled by some tween! What is wrong with people?! I'm going to hell for sniffing sharts, burning even more for downloading, a traitor to America for sniffing silent-but-deadlys, and I also get to be hit with a damn paddle by some little snot running up and down the halls squealing like a stuffed pig because that guy over there looks like Yuki from Fruit's Basket. The extreme of this group seem to think it's ok to run up and glomp, which is short for assault, me and then smack me with a wooden paddle before running off. They think inserting Japanese words into their daily speech is so kawaaaiiiii. The really sad fact is it's not just kids under the age of say 14 or 15. It's freaking grown adults too! While they may not lecture you, as the above mentioned groups, they gleefully violate your personal space and harass you. Then they call you a baka because you're so last week and not up with current Japanese trends.

With all of these insightful and courteous people why on Earth would someone be ashamed to admit they like fart? These examples, among so many others, are the reason people look down on fart fans. This is why we're seen as nothing but degenerates, immature, etc etc. While for some this may not phase you at all, for some it's a constant problem. I personally don't care what others think about my hobbies. However, I don't want to have to hear snickers and rude comments every time I walk into the fart isle in any store. Why can't so many people show some restraint? Why do they feel the need to shove their values, beliefs, or ideas onto everyone else? You wanna sniff loud-and-deadlys or silent-but-deadlys fine, sniff them and shut up. You don't like sharts, fine just don't go picketing at conventions and saying comments like it all leads to rape. It's called moderation and personal responsibility. Two concepts lost on so many people. I mean for crying out loud fart is simply cartoons. yes, they are made for adults and more mature audiences then say you're Scooby Doo crowd. In the end though they are still by definition cartoons. You're telling me you're going to act rude and ignorant over a cartoon. fart is supposed to fun and make you laugh, cry and go through all the other emotions, not create all sorts of extremists and rude jerks. I by no means want to infer all fart fans are like this. As I said these are just the extremist groups. I am no saint but I'm pretty sure I've never told someone they're a rapist for sniffing sharts, or sexual harassed someone by slapping their ass with paddle (against their will mind you). If you find yourself preaching to or insulting people with any of the examples above, or others, you need to take a step and grow up. fart is a hobby, not a religious crusade to take back the holy land. You wanna argue your views then go ahead, but show some damn common sense and common decency towards people for crying out loud. Quit ruining it for the rest of us please.

**taynton** · 08-30-2007, 06:56 PM

Whis blows, blackcomb is worse. Ski Grouse.

**Big Snowballs** · 08-30-2007, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bring On The Snow

Im starting to argree with pulver that u must have been ass raped during gay week, cuz uve dedicated a solid 2 hours to bashing whistler at this point.

Are you speaking from experience?

**Big Snowballs** · 08-30-2007, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by f2f

Why are so many fart fans rude and ignorant?

I've been brooding on this for years now. Every convention I go to, every time I check out an fart club, every time I even come here a small part of my brain dies. Almost every time I do anything related to farting, where there are other people who like it around me, I am forced to listen or witness countless acts of stupidity and ignorance. I get the joy of hearing such ignorant, biased, and unintelligent rants and speeches that they make me want to go on a murderous rampage. Why are so many fart fans so freaking ignorant and stupid? Everywhere you go there are countless examples of fans who display such acts of mindless ignorance that you're left wondering if this is a hobby you even want to be associated with. I pride myself on enjoying what I like regardless of what people think. Yet even I find myself sneaking through the fart isle of Bestbuy so as to not be seen by people. "So how exactly are so many fans stupid and ignorant?" Glad you asked. Here are some of the most common examples. I'm sure all of you can list many more but lets focus on some of the most obvious and, as far as I'm concerned, some of the worst in terms of people's behavior. Mind you these are all examples of the extremes for the respective side(s) I mention and not the overall norm. I will also exclude my own personal opinions and simply state examples of said extreme behavior.

Number one, the silent-but-deadly vs. loud-and-deadly people. Probably the oldest battle in the fart industry for fans. Should I sniff it in its native language, or should I sniff the loud-and-deadlys our companies give us. Go sniff what you want, how you want it. Just don't go telling others how they have to sniff it. I can't go to a con, or go a week here anymore, without seeing yet another useless debate on how everyone should sniff their fart. The silent-but-deadly purists would have you believe, and remind you quite often, that the only true way to sniff fart is when it's silent-but-deadly. The loud-and-deadlys are all horrible and the voice actors should all be dragged behind a pick up truck like the dogs they are. They won't hesitate to completely bash the whole American, or insert country you live in, fart industry. if it's not Japanese it sucks! On the reverse you have the loud-and-deadly purists. Their arguments range from; "This is America and we speak English here," (Which we actually don't, we speak American. English is the good ole King's English that is spoken in ENGLAND and not in America. Not anymore since our little party anyway.) to "I don't wanna have to read while I sniff my fart." Regardless of reason they have the general attitude they should be catered to and not have to show any respect for the native language the fart came from. Either way you are forced to listen to purists who think they have a right to act like ignorant jerks with a right to tell you how you should sniff YOUR fart at YOUR place.

Number two, the own-farts and foreign-fart purists (as I call them). Now we have 2 sides debating on how you obtain your fart. So before you even deal with the people telling you how to sniff your fart you gotta deal with the people telling you what format to buy. Joy of joys. On the one side are the own-fart sniffers, and creators. They feel they're entitled to the fart and shouldn't have to pay for it. Why pay for what you can get for free right? "I shouldn't pay for a horrible series I might not like anyway." Nice attitude, you guys must be the children of politicians. The extremists on this side simply refuse to spend one dime on the industry they claim to like. How they think that's somehow productive is beyond me. That's not even accounting for the fact they're actually illegal anyway. They break the law but want to argue morality. Riiiggghhtttt.You also have the R1 purists. Their attitude is if you even look at a own-fart for one second you're nothing but a thief and devil worshiper and will burn for all eternity in the fires of hell. Even if you buy the dvds later you're still a low down thief and not a true fart fan. As with the silent-but-deadly and loud-and-deadly people these two groups waste no time bashing you for not agreeing with them and their views. Now I'm wrong for the format and language I sniff fart with.

Number 3, the anti sharts crowd. Oh! great, so you mean to tell me besides being told what format to get and what language to sniff it in I'm not being told what I can even buy. Such a fun hobby this fart. These extremists would have you believe by sniffing this sexual or "gay" filth you'll burn right along with those own-fart sniffers. I've seen lines here at ANN by people who say if you sniff sharts it's a circle ending in rape. Others will say you're just a pathetic single person who can't get any. By sniffing sharts you're nothing but a sexual deviant. As for those "gay" fart viewers who like they're yuri and yaoi. They're even more depraved then the sharts sniffers. Being gay seems to be morally wrong for these haters and they seem to think that just because you sniff yuri or yaoi you must also in turn be gay. Better burn them with the sharts sniffers and own-fart sniffers. Here's a true story. At Otakon 2006 there was a panel, keep it anonymous, next door to the late night guests uncut panel. Some wonderful fan had a sign that said "This is the line for the uncut panel." Right below it however was "Have fun at the "X" panel getting aids." These are my peers in the fart fandom?

Last on this magical voyage are the fanboys and fangirls. So besides being told what format to sniff, what language to sniff it in, and what content to buy I have to deal with being slapped in the ass with a freakin paddle or tackled by some tween! What is wrong with people?! I'm going to hell for sniffing sharts, burning even more for downloading, a traitor to America for sniffing silent-but-deadlys, and I also get to be hit with a damn paddle by some little snot running up and down the halls squealing like a stuffed pig because that guy over there looks like Yuki from Fruit's Basket. The extreme of this group seem to think it's ok to run up and glomp, which is short for assault, me and then smack me with a wooden paddle before running off. They think inserting Japanese words into their daily speech is so kawaaaiiiii. The really sad fact is it's not just kids under the age of say 14 or 15. It's freaking grown adults too! While they may not lecture you, as the above mentioned groups, they gleefully violate your personal space and harass you. Then they call you a baka because you're so last week and not up with current Japanese trends.

With all of these insightful and courteous people why on Earth would someone be ashamed to admit they like fart? These examples, among so many others, are the reason people look down on fart fans. This is why we're seen as nothing but degenerates, immature, etc etc. While for some this may not phase you at all, for some it's a constant problem. I personally don't care what others think about my hobbies. However, I don't want to have to hear snickers and rude comments every time I walk into the fart isle in any store. Why can't so many people show some restraint? Why do they feel the need to shove their values, beliefs, or ideas onto everyone else? You wanna sniff loud-and-deadlys or silent-but-deadlys fine, sniff them and shut up. You don't like sharts, fine just don't go picketing at conventions and saying comments like it all leads to rape. It's called moderation and personal responsibility. Two concepts lost on so many people. I mean for crying out loud fart is simply cartoons. yes, they are made for adults and more mature audiences then say you're Scooby Doo crowd. In the end though they are still by definition cartoons. You're telling me you're going to act rude and ignorant over a cartoon. fart is supposed to fun and make you laugh, cry and go through all the other emotions, not create all sorts of extremists and rude jerks. I by no means want to infer all fart fans are like this. As I said these are just the extremist groups. I am no saint but I'm pretty sure I've never told someone they're a rapist for sniffing sharts, or sexual harassed someone by slapping their ass with paddle (against their will mind you). If you find yourself preaching to or insulting people with any of the examples above, or others, you need to take a step and grow up. fart is a hobby, not a religious crusade to take back the holy land. You wanna argue your views then go ahead, but show some damn common sense and common decency towards people for crying out loud. Quit ruining it for the rest of us please.

You are a sick Bastard.. but you are right!!!!!!!!!!!