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My son just turned 16 last month. He is not big (5'5", 120 lbs), but very fit and a very good skier (40+ days per year for the last 5 years).

His approximate progression of skis has been....(no...

I think these are sold to schicken, just awaiting payment. thx

2012/13 Look Pivot Bindings. Retail on these bad boys is $399US.

You know how good these are. Din 8 - 18.

Approx. 12-15 or so ski days on these. Were bought new back in November 2012. ...

Gonna think on these. Would be great for Baker side country. And I've always wanted a pair of these .

Would be interested in just the skis and skins. No bindings.

Need to check hole...

Hey,

I agree on the DW love. I currently have a 184 Deathwish + 184 Bibby + 187 Hojis. Baker had lots of crud/pow in the last few weeks (wet but good for April) and I skiied the Deathwish the...

So....I have a short, wide hobbit foot with high arches and my foot also has a high instep. Kinda hairy on the top of my toes too.

I like to cram my size 7US foot into 24.5 shells and use a size...

Update

185 Cochises sold for $380 + ship. 184 Deathwishes bought for $450 + 8% WA tax.

So I am into new skis and "out" $106. $106 / 5 days = $21.20 per day demo cost.


So let's...

Dood,

This is so entertaining. Are you wound really really tight or just insane? At first I thought you were wound tight, but I am leaning to insane now.

You've made 10 posts here trying...

So,

Just to clarify. None of the $ proceeds will ever go towards anything remotely non-ski related.

I have my eye on some Sollyfits plates and Dynafits for my Bibbys. Pumped as I just...

If you ask me I would say yes (but I have been known to slightly over quiver).

Funny I am having the exact same conversation with myself re Renegades (I have 187 Hojis).....good luck.

Damn those Renegades for $479.

Anyone buying these 185 Cochiese? Or do I have to keep em to go with my new Tecnica Cochise Pro AT boots?

No...just no. I do not need some 186 Renegades.

note the 40% applies to all 4FRNT stuff, ie Deadbolt 15 bindings, 4FRNT skins etc.

Ya the 182cm PB&J is just like a narrower bibby. Little bit softer. Complemented my 184cm Bibbys well.

Though the PB&J does ski a bit short mainly due to its more centered mounting point. I...

Hey vailzendrei,

Ha! I did not take your previous post as judgmental. And it seems like we have similar buying habits. I appreciate you giving me the good advice. I need to hear it.
...

Dood,

What you paid is not relevant to current market price, just like in stock trading.

What is relevant is that some new ones have sold recently for $429 shipped. So likely that is...

That is a good question. Definitely not as easy to ski as my 184 Bibbys, 184 Deathwishes and 187 Hojis. The Cochises rip in open steeps. But I prefer to think it is the terrain at Baker that...

So, I do like these skis but they are just not a Mt Baker ski . They need more room to run. If I skiied Whistler regularly I would keep em. I have 5 days on them at Mt Baker, lots of snow so...

Hey D(C),

Sorry for tempting you with my Bibbys....but just found some new Bibbys for $429US at Bentgate. Almost within your $350 budget. I bought my PB&Js from there. No tax, free ship...

I would throw my vote in for the Moment Deathwish. Triple camber works when you need it too, but does not feel funky at all.

I just got a pair. Since then I have sold my PB&Js and not been...

Hi,

I think there might be some overlap if you had both the DWs and PB&Js.

Moment calls the PB&J an “8″ on their flex scale; the Deathwish is a “7″. Both skis are really good choices for...

Hi,

Me 5'7", 175

I have skiied the 184 Bibby (mine) and the 190 Bibby (my buddy's) in the same day, both mounted on the rec line (-6). The 184 does look short for a 184 (182 straight pull)...

Hi,

aaahhh....a mount point discussion!

I also demo'ed the 184 2012/13 Deathwish recently. With the demo bindings I was able to move it around a bit. Typically I like a centered stance, I...

Thx.

I just bot a pair.......don't need but could not turn down.

23 minutes left.

K

OK.....1 more bump, I need a new surfboard.

And new later season delivered price, both with bindings and without:

Moment PB&Js $499 + $0 ship (skis + Pivot 18 bindings).....like getting...

Any interest in some like new 2010/11 181cm LibTech Pipe NAS skis (120/86/113), Mike Wilson's stiff, fast, full camber, freestyle pipe ski. It's called the Tranny NAS now. Mounted 1x with like new...

Hey DC,

Re the mount point on the 187 Hojis. I think +2 is actually where you needed to be.

For some reason the recommended mount point (little arrow on side of the ski) on the 187 Hoji's...

Hey Shu,

Free bump.

Got on the 182cm Moment Jags w/Dukes last weekend in about 6" of tracked up fresh at Baker for a 1/2 day or so (Hojis got the untouched fresh in the am) . Nice feeling...

Been offered pretty much everything for the PB&Js....from 175s to 194s....thx

Bump.....

My 2012/13 182cms PB&Js are mounted at +0.5cm from recommended (approx -4.25cm back from true center?) as I always go a bit in front of recommended (small bsl).....very playful and nimble.....but in...

Bump for pic of the Hestra Guide gloves (see first post). .

Lots of emails re the PB&Js......both these skis are on ebay now.

K

Hey DC,

Just fondled the 184 Bibbys and 184 Deathwish side by side at Baker's rental shop. Bibbys are a much more substantial ski? A much stiffer flex on the Bibby, whereas the Deathwish flex...

Hi,

Some nibbles.....lots of offers of some pretty decent trades in the 180 - 190 range (must resist).

I would split off the bindings if you just want the skis.

Would consider/need...

So.....

I am thinking 110mm all day every day? Listing these as I am just finding that I don't really ski my narrower waisted skis (<108mm).....and I have 6 pairs of skis.

For Sale:
...

Update.....sold my 185 LibTech FF5s and bought some 185 Blizzard Cochises. FF5s overlapped with the Bibbys.

Right to left:

187 4FRNT Hojis (with Deadbolt 15s)
184 Moment Bibbys (with Salomon...

Hey coskier90,

Ha ha! Finally someone with balls to mount this ski really forward.

Here I was having this nandy pandy discussion about +1 or +2.....and you come in at about +7 (.......mine...

Hey,

For anyone mounting 185 Cochises....I mounted mine at +1 from recommended with Look Pivot 18s.

I mainly went +1 as I have a short bsl (I cram a size 7US foot and 7US Intuition liner...

Hi,

I got out on my 185 Cochises today for their maiden run. Awesome skis. Today was pretty icy conditions and they ripped.

As some have mentioned here, I did not detune as I wanted to ski...

Sounds like a Renegade forum! That sucks they are different, haven't heard of that issue with Blizzard's flipcore before?? Pics always interesting (and helpful).

K

So got the 185 Cochises today. Sweet looking skis.

The 185 measures just over 183.5 tip to tail straight pull.

Blizzard's recommended line (little arrow on ski sidewall) is at 80.5 cm from...

Bump for some good deals on Moments.

Shu Shu super easy to deal with. I just snagged the 182 Jag Sharks.....best topsheet ever. Quiver getting bloated again but who cares!

K

Hey Bandit,

Mounting on the line I assume? $450 is pretty sweet. I got mine for $499US (delivered and taxes in).

I pick up my 185 Cochises tomorrow. Putting Pivots on them. Pretty sure...

2nd in line on the Jags + Dukes. I have always wanted that topsheet in my quiver.

Ya I have 184cm Bibbys now and had 184 Wailer RP112s for about 3 weeks around Xmas. I did not like the Wailers at all in Baker's chunder. They were great in deep and untouched snow. But the...

Hey Snowy Spartan,

That would be sweet......0 and +1 and +2 please!

Thx,

K

Where are you guys?

$80 is the ship cost to Canada.

Ship in US is $0.

Just to help anyone with mounting FF5s in future......

Due mainly to over lap with my Bibbys and wanting another pair of rockered skis I ended selling my 185cm FF5s for $330 on ebay.....and bought...

Help,

Someone buy these!

Before I do.

New Crow Rens for $450 shipped

...

pm incoming

Again, when I hear this over and over re the 193 I think......I am 5'7", 170 +/-5. I have the 185 on order. I don't want this ski for float (I have 2 pairs of wider skis for that). I ski with a...

Or sell the NTs and buy some 187 Hojis.....I think 4FRNT has a few pairs left (they emailed me today in reply to when I was looking for some Hojis a while ago).

Though I would like you to ski the...