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  1. You are projecting again. You are the one who...

    You are projecting again.

    You are the one who is fond of asserting a larger picture while offering as proof of that picture, a single detail, and asserting, on the strength and accuracy of that...
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    you're into hermaphrodites? ewww.

    you're into hermaphrodites?


    ewww.
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    I don't speak for the NRA or the Republican...

    I don't speak for the NRA or the Republican party. You will have to go ask somebody who does.
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    And yet...

    And yet...
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    And then they act indignant when called on it......

    And then they act indignant when called on it...




    In other news:
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    Unless, and until, a person is in that situation...

    Unless, and until, a person is in that situation and faced with that decision, they have no idea what the answer is. They only know what they would like the answer to be.


    Check out a book called...
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    This thread was created because the Left is...

    This thread was created because the Left is losing the debate on gun control. And as happens every time the Left fears it might lose an argument, they abandon civil discourse and resort to character...
  8. The Constitutional Expert in the White House

    Reserving this spot for the next time someone who is not a bat shit crazy Leftist accuses Obama of something and the predictable apologists on the Left rush to Obama's defense with statements like...
  9. Thread: Gun Reality

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    No, you just don't know what to do with it. I am...

    No, you just don't know what to do with it. I am right, and you are not equipped to challenge my position.




    Meh, that was sloppy of me. I should have read the entire page before quoting from...
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    "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." ...

    "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."

    Do you have a problem with vigilance Triage? Your attempts to suggest it is not necessary in this case could create the impression that you do.
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    There are people who hold political office who...

    There are people who hold political office who have recently tried to get such laws passed, only the seizures wouldn't have been random.




    Once laws like this become 'immanent' it's too late.
  12. Thread: Gun Reality

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    The number of households with guns is closer to...

    The number of households with guns is closer to 50%. But that is not relevant to the point I was making. And as usual, you failed to grasp the point that was being made.
  14. ^^^What YetiMan said^^^ I don't want my...

    ^^^What YetiMan said^^^


    I don't want my national leaders crying in public unless their dog died or they are at the funeral of a loved one or life-long friend.

    But that wasn't he worst of it....
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    Because the numbers involved highlight the...

    Because the numbers involved highlight the disingenuousness of the gun control crowd. Especially their focus on 'assault weapons'(<---a made up term with an arbitrary self serving definition), which...
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    That says a lot about you.

    That says a lot about you.
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    Like most reasonable sounding proposals, it would...

    Like most reasonable sounding proposals, it would depend on the specifics of it's implementation. But my first reaction would be to oppose it, for the following reason:

    If you are going to...
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    I love how Triage has become a mouthpiece for...

    I love how Triage has become a mouthpiece for Obama. Even going so far as to quote him without giving credit.

    Here's another perspective on the claimed "trillions" in cuts Triage/Obama is trying...
  19. Hu? I think this is what you were looking...

    Hu?


    I think this is what you were looking for. Your numbers are way, way off.
  20. All their names are on a single piece of paper. ...

    All their names are on a single piece of paper.

    So when it comes to that piece of paper, and what it said, they did speak with one voice.
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    ok FIFY Obama is threatening to shut...

    ok




    FIFY

    Obama is threatening to shut down the government if he isn't given another credit card. Congress is going to raise the debt limit. But Obama is refusing to sign anything that has...
  22. I believe it's 'were reading them'. But I could...

    I believe it's 'were reading them'. But I could be wrong.
  23. I would say books are winning it...with google...

    I would say books are winning it...with google acting as proxy.

    Books are just too hard to post.

    http://www.pbase.com/quath/image/148340164.jpg

    See what I mean?

    :cool:
  24. If you have read them you would know that the...

    If you have read them you would know that the founders were profoundly distrustful of too much centralized power, too far removed from the people and that local control of the government and an armed...
  25. Are you being intentionally dense, or is your...

    Are you being intentionally dense, or is your reading comprehension really this bad?
  26. Have you read the federalist papers? My guess is,...

    Have you read the federalist papers? My guess is, you haven't. Nor does it seem like you have spent much time reading anything else written by those who wrote the constitution.

    You can't imagine...
  27. Not true. It was about both, repelling foreign...

    Not true. It was about both, repelling foreign invaders as well as possibly overthrowing a tyrannical government(and of course personal defense, etc.).

    The founder's distrust of a too powerful...
  28. The gun grabbers really, really hate this one^^^....

    The gun grabbers really, really hate this one^^^. :biggrin:
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    Well, here for starters: ...

    Well, here for starters:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use

    If you don't like what you see, references are provided so you can investigate it further on your own.

    You will notice...
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    Hutash, this^^^is another reason why rational...

    Hutash, this^^^is another reason why rational discussion on this subject isn't possible. Too many people like Adolf gum up the works.
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    Don't project your ignorance onto others. Some of...

    Don't project your ignorance onto others. Some of us know exactly what the 2nd amendment means.

    Television, radio, and the internet didn't exist when the Bill of Rights was added to the...
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    There is no common ground or serious dialogue to...

    There is no common ground or serious dialogue to be had. Feinstein, and her ilk are driven by tribalism not ignorance. Guns are a symbol of the people with whom they disagree, so they want to...
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    You have said nothing that requires any reasoning...

    You have said nothing that requires any reasoning to refute. What you have done is say 'maybe', and 'might', and 'could have', and want to pass new laws based on that alone.

    What you are trying to...
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    No, I'm making you prove yours, which you are...

    No, I'm making you prove yours, which you are failing to do. The Sandy Hook shooting is being pointed to as evidence of the need for tighter restrictions on guns. But few, if any, of the restrictions...
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    It could also be said that under Obama the...

    It could also be said that under Obama the private sector has gotten smaller and the public sector is growing.

    Propaganda is fun, isn't it?
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    The guns were already registered to her and the...

    The guns were already registered to her and the were locked up in a 'gun cabinet' in the basement. If the reports are correct, she had taught her son how to shoot and regularly went shooting with...
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rGpykAX1fo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rGpykAX1fo
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    How would this have prevented the Sandy Hook...

    How would this have prevented the Sandy Hook shooting?
  39. Last time I checked, managing the federal budget...

    Last time I checked, managing the federal budget was part of congress's constitutionally mandated duties.
  40. And yet the Left in this country still look to...

    And yet the Left in this country still look to congress to solve societies problems with more laws and regulations.


    :nonono2:
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    Non-citizens can be deported if they are found to...

    Non-citizens can be deported if they are found to be subverting the constitution. I believe the contention is that Morgan's bashing of the 2nd amendment amounts to 'subversion'.
  42. This makes it worse than worthless. Find...

    This makes it worse than worthless. Find something better.
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    You two wouldn't know a good idea if it slapped...

    You two wouldn't know a good idea if it slapped you in the face. All you know is whether an idea came from your guys or the other guys.
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    The Constitution can be changed, if the people...

    The Constitution can be changed, if the people wish it to be, but it is not done in the supreme court.







    It has, many times.
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    Not a chance. You are singling out the firearms...

    Not a chance. You are singling out the firearms designed for personal protection and putting tighter restrictions on them. That makes your entire proposal a non-starter.

    The 2nd amendment doesn't...
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    The firearm/gun analogy is a poor one for gun...

    The firearm/gun analogy is a poor one for gun control advocates. You need none of the things you listed in order to own a motor vehicle in the United States. If you wish to legally operate a vehicle...
  47. No one is saying that. This issue is about...

    No one is saying that. This issue is about politics being put ahead of preparedness which raises questions of competency on the part of the administration.

    But since you bring up a...
  48. And yet 'State Dept. Confirms: Marines on 9/11/12...

    And yet 'State Dept. Confirms: Marines on 9/11/12 Were Protecting U.S. Embassy--in Barbados'.

    I'm pretty sure the issue is the allocation of resources, not the total resources available to the...
  49. No, it's not a sports cam, I would definitely...

    No, it's not a sports cam, I would definitely still reach for a DSLR for that.

    But it does excel at people/street photography. It's small, light(which apparently turns some people off to it, but...
  50. Single, here is a good write up on the x-Pro 1....

    Single, here is a good write up on the x-Pro 1. It will give you an idea of what to expect as far as IQ and low light performance from the XE-1, if you decide to go that route.
    ...
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