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    He's just one of the voices in your head. My...

    He's just one of the voices in your head. My head, actually, since you're just a figment of my imagination.
    Now move to the side already. You're crowding Julius Caesar.
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    Whoa! Hey! ... honk before you post like that,...

    Whoa! Hey! ... honk before you post like that, man! Wat, you think you pwn this fourm? ... facking advretisers spamming shoes across the yellow line all the time ... :nonono2:
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    Thanks, Grange; it does sound similar. No;...

    Thanks, Grange; it does sound similar.

    No; it's as "on the table" as it ever was - keeping in mind that no official lift proposal has been put forward. It does mean that arguments for a lift (or...
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    I'd be glad to hear your opinion on it, then. ...

    I'd be glad to hear your opinion on it, then.

    As far as I can tell, the term is a recent invention of the local USFS - first time I (or any of the NEPA lawyers I've worked with) heard of it was...
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    We agree. So all I can do is add. Hume is worth...

    We agree. So all I can do is add.
    Hume is worth reading and re-reading. Kant ... probably not even the reading. Not because he couldn't spell out or use his own ideas halfway decently - many...
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    Those "Small NEPA" projects are done deals. USFS...

    Those "Small NEPA" projects are done deals. USFS just throws that mini-scoping out there to comply with NEPA - they've already concluded there's no significant impact, so the projects can be carried...
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    Tell your skiing partners and hiking buddies. ...

    Tell your skiing partners and hiking buddies.

    Meeting report: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12355587

    It's important for people to show up - these meetings make news, which gets the facts and...
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    There is not the slightest shadow of a possible...

    There is not the slightest shadow of a possible shred of doubt in my mind that that fact is extremely significant.

    SLTrib announcement.
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    Danger zone indeed. One good case of food...

    Danger zone indeed.
    One good case of food poisoning will teach you to bring a lunch you can trust; and to skip it altogether if you forget. The decision between being hungry for a few hours and a...
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    Healthy looking kids! Congratulations to both of...

    Healthy looking kids! Congratulations to both of you.
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    That's probably the best balance of cost and...

    That's probably the best balance of cost and benefit - it's pretty obvious if you read the UDOT report closely, even though it gets the silent treatment.
    The stillborn AltaBright tunnel idea was by...
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    Turns out that the children of the rich are...

    Turns out that the children of the rich are particularly lucky:
    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/03/27/0811910106
  13. lol, well put! I did eventually give up...

    lol, well put!

    I did eventually give up wearing jeans regularly ... they just ain't that comfy 'round the office or the house, and they don't match shorts, synthetics, or raingear for any sports....
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    An extremely timely thread, alto. So timely it...

    An extremely timely thread, alto.
    So timely it makes me wonder ... are you prepared for the public sessions currently planned for early May?
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    I think that pretty much sums it up - at least...

    I think that pretty much sums it up - at least for those of you who can read sarcasm and think nuance.
    Those of you who actually did the ANOVA should just skip the remainder of the class.
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    Seriously? That book is the dumbest piece of...

    [/quote]Seriously? That book is the dumbest piece of rah-rah greedhead claptrap bullshit to disgrace a bookshelf since Ayn Rand blessed the world with her permanent absence. I can barely forgive the...
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    Source link...

    Source link
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    It's been going on for decades. The current...

    It's been going on for decades. The current behavior is a response to the fact that USFS clamped down on the snowmobiler's antics by surveying USFS land, marking it, issuing the snowmobilers a permit...
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    That troll doesn't want or deserve a clue. As for...

    That troll doesn't want or deserve a clue. As for you - I thought I wasn't supposed to take you seriously?

    If you've changed your mind, email me.

    Re: avalanches - of course you'd dig him out....
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    So lets say you had a clue ... nah, that'll never...

    So lets say you had a clue ... nah, that'll never happen.
    You are mostly correct, though there are a few noteworthy exceptions.
    Sound advice. Also: stay high, avoid the noise, and keep moving. Just...
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    To make Alta look good by comparison?

    To make Alta look good by comparison?
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    Think of it as Alta opening to snowboarders. ...

    Think of it as Alta opening to snowboarders.

    I'm gonna have an Alta-Free Wasatch party to celebrate the date.
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    http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12074836...

    http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12074836
    http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705295319,00.html
  24. Sorry. I tried. But there was too much for...

    Sorry.
    I tried.
    But there was too much for one day.
  25. Not out of the woods yet....

    Not out of the woods yet.

    He hopes to "demonstrate the corruption of a system that “awards” oil and gas leases to the highest bidders, while the public and the environment are without any...
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    update: Indicted on two felony counts. ...

    update:
    Indicted on two felony counts.
    http://www.bidder70.org/
  27. Chuter didn't link his own Meeting Report, but I...

    Chuter didn't link his own Meeting Report, but I found it useful:
    http://straightchuter.com/2009/04/friends-of-flagstaff-meeting-update/

    Don't miss the presentation slides:...
  28. Avalanche control artillery has dropped a stray...

    Avalanche control artillery has dropped a stray round or two into inhabited areas.
    http://www.avalanche-center.org/News/2005/2005-03-23-utah-artillery.php

    Some slivers of the land in question -...
  29. Goin' out on a limb there, Tye? ;) Nate, looks...

    Goin' out on a limb there, Tye? ;)

    Nate, looks like chances of us actually crossing paths are close to nil, so pm me an address, a campus mail addy, or instructions to a tree or bulletin board,...
  30. Thanks for the report.

    Thanks for the report.
  31. I wish I could. But I was delayed and arrived...

    I wish I could.

    But I was delayed and arrived at about 6:45, by which time the greeter at REI's entrance was growing tired of telling people that the meeting hall was filled to capacity and that...
  32. Looks like that fine point was made, in spades.

    Looks like that fine point was made, in spades.
  33. Is there really going to be pizza? Could be a...

    Is there really going to be pizza?
    Could be a lotta people: http://www.sltrib.com/ci_12036613


    A little reading beforehand might be useful:
    The Use of Small Unmanned Aircraft [for avalanche...
  34. Dammit, Lonester - I was just about to give you...

    Dammit, Lonester - I was just about to give you the standard "sack up, nutless wonder" and you have to go and say something civil. :mad:

    So sack up, Nutless Explosion.
    I'd offer a beer if you...
  35. lol - that was "facilitation"? The mediator in...

    lol - that was "facilitation"?
    The mediator in you needs some work.
  36. Having heard Onno - and several others - speak...

    Having heard Onno - and several others - speak DIRECTLY to this point, and many related points over the years ... I'm paying attention.

    I'm aware of many sketches that became reality, including...
  37. Interesting map. I'd love to see one extending...

    Interesting map. I'd love to see one extending out of ToA's boundaries, towards Flagstaff, Superior, & Cardiff.

    The absence of a public, written statement to that effect doesn't mean the...
  38. Lonnie, even if that line of reasoning were...

    Lonnie, even if that line of reasoning were reasonable - and it's not, since any landowner might very reasonably argue that a ski lift above their property would interfere with their use of the...
  39. Choose your definition: Alta Ski Lifts. Town of...

    Choose your definition: Alta Ski Lifts. Town of Alta. Alta Lift Truck Services.
    The land that was surveyed for a lift up Flagstaff is not owned by any of them.

    It's not the first time I've been...
  40. Feel free to add information if you have it. I...

    Feel free to add information if you have it. I have nothing to do with the meeting that has been set up and advertised.


    Technically, I said and meant EXACTLY what I said, not one jot more nor...
  41. Your belief is incorrect. But you're in good...

    Your belief is incorrect. But you're in good company: apparently Nate agrees with you.
  42. Alta does not own that land.

    Alta does not own that land.
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    It was. I had to leave shortly after the toasts,...

    It was. I had to leave shortly after the toasts, unfortunately.
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    You gonna be at the party? ...

    You gonna be at the party?
    http://www.utahrivers.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=242&Itemid=262
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    Glad to hear it - so I just signed on as a URC...

    Glad to hear it - so I just signed on as a URC member.

    edit - Did this thread get dropkicked into PolyAssHat or was it started here? Wrong place, either way.
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    What role did the Utah River Council play in this...

    What role did the Utah River Council play in this battle?
    I ask, since they have a staff & bank account, they're likely to be ready for this next year & should be able to rally & prepare the troops...
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    Is it the fish or the fisherman? Either way -...

    Is it the fish or the fisherman? Either way - strong work!
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    Let us know when you catch up to the conclusions...

    Let us know when you catch up to the conclusions everyone else with three-quarters of a brain reached years ago.
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    Yeah. People ignore your info for good reasons....

    Yeah. People ignore your info for good reasons. They ignore you for better reasons.
    Good luck with the catch-up - it might take more than a minute. ;)
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    Nice contrast between the authoritative rant...

    Nice contrast between the authoritative rant about how simple it all is - and the frank admission that you haven't even heard of the final dead horse beating that was finished in 2007.
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