Ok I skied the 193 Zag golds today in the baker BC where the conditions were mostly powder. These skis with there 140-93-118 dimentions are the easiest skis i have ever turned in powder, and they will NOT dive at alll!!!! In short they are the best pow skis i have ever skied, even bettter than my large volkl quiver. BUT these skis do not handle crud/ ice etc at ll, there mildly ok on packed powder groomers, but would benefit from beaning much stiffer, and possibly a 97~100 ish waist. But overall they rocked in powder!!!!!!!!