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			<title>Obama is Spying on You</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:26:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Ok.  
 
Here's Barry's explanation: 
 
1. Widespread domestic spying on every individual and every organization in a country of over 300 million foils terrorism.  
 
2. You are one of the 300 million, but they aren't spying on you.  
 
At least Bush was straightforward about it.]]></description>
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<div>Ok. <br />
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Here's Barry's explanation:<br />
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1. Widespread domestic spying on every individual and every organization in a country of over 300 million foils terrorism. <br />
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2. You are one of the 300 million, but they aren't spying on you. <br />
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At least Bush was straightforward about it.<br />
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			<dc:creator>charles martel</dc:creator>
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			<title>Ku Klux Klan builds X-Ray Terror Weapon</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:42:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/two-men-accused-bizarre-radiation-plot-192422391.html 
 
Since when did the Ku Klux Klan start liking The Jews ?</description>
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Since when did the Ku Klux Klan start liking The Jews ?</div>


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			<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
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			<title>Sarah Palin returns to the Faux</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:14:12 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Not that I have cable nor would I ever watch Faux if I did. 
...thought it was of the utmost importance that everyone knows that she is back on the Faux-est news channel on the planet.  
 
 
 
 
I'd still bang her though (should would have to be gagged of course).]]></description>
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<div>Not that I have cable nor would I ever watch Faux if I did.<br />
...thought it was of the utmost importance that everyone knows that she is back on the Faux-est news channel on the planet. <br />
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I'd still bang her though (should would have to be gagged of course).</div>


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			<dc:creator>Grape_Ape</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Arab Spring Spills to Brazil....who's next?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:47:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I choose this article because of the first photo....100K is low. 
 
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57589749/100000-line-streets-of-brazil-to-protest-high-taxes/ 
 
 
SAO PAULO More than 100,000 people took to the streets in overwhelmingly peaceful protests in at least eight cities Monday,...</description>
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<div>I choose this article because of the first photo....100K is low.<br />
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<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57589749/100000-line-streets-of-brazil-to-protest-high-taxes/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...st-high-taxes/</a><br />
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SAO PAULO More than 100,000 people took to the streets in overwhelmingly peaceful protests in at least eight cities Monday, demonstrations that voiced the deep frustrations Brazilians feel about carrying heavy tax burdens but receiving woeful returns in public education, health, security and transportation.<br />
<br />
In Sao Paulo, Brazil's economic hub, at least 65,000 protesters gathered at a small, treeless plaza then broke into three directions in a Carnival atmosphere, with drummers beating out samba rhythms as the crowds chanted anti-corruption jingles. They also focused on the cause that initially sparked the protests last week - a 10-cent hike in bus and subway fares.<br />
<br />
Hundreds of protesters in the capital, Brasilia, peacefully marched on congress, where dozens scrambled up a ramp to a low-lying roof, dancing on the structure's large, hallmark upward-turned bowl designed by famed architect Oscar Niemeyer. Some congressional windows were broken, but police did not use force to contain the damage.<br />
<br />
&quot;This is a communal cry saying: 'We're not satisfied,'&quot; Maria Claudia Cardoso said on a Sao Paulo avenue, taking turns waving a sign reading &quot;#revolution&quot; with her 16-year-old son, Fernando, as protesters streamed by.<br />
<br />
&quot;We're massacred by the government's taxes - yet when we leave home in the morning to go to work, we don't know if we'll make it home alive because of the violence,&quot; she added. &quot;We don't have good schools for our kids. Our hospitals are in awful shape. Corruption is rife. These protests will make history and wake our politicians up to the fact that we're not taking it anymore!&quot;<br />
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The protests come after the opening matches of soccer's Confederations Cup over the weekend, just one month before a papal visit, a year before the World Cup and three years ahead of the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro. The unrest is raising some security concerns, especially after protests last week in Sao Paulo and over the weekend in Rio produced injury-causing clashes with police.</div>


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			<dc:creator>DasBlunt</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Obama's Comments May Spare Thousands Of Rapists From Punishment]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:57:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>because he and his admin are ignorant of the law 
 
http://www.stripes.com/judge-obama-sex-assault-comments-unlawful-command-influence-1.225974</description>
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<div>because he and his admin are ignorant of the law<br />
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<a href="http://www.stripes.com/judge-obama-sex-assault-comments-unlawful-command-influence-1.225974" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.stripes.com/judge-obama-s...uence-1.225974</a></div>


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			<title>I could not Find the Fuck the police thread. This seems like it could have its own th</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 21:39:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Just another example of the Loss of control you suffer whenever you are in contact with Police or Government. 
 
Fortunately we become aware of this as action is taken 
 
How many stories are out there Like this?  FUCK THE POLICE 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKoFPhxwQc0</description>
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<div>Just another example of the Loss of control you suffer whenever you are in contact with Police or Government.<br />
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Fortunately we become aware of this as action is taken<br />
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How many stories are out there Like this?  FUCK THE POLICE<br />
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			<title>Another liberal democrat run paradise down the tubes.  Surprising...</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:48:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[‘We’re Tapped Out’: Detroit Emergency Manager Proposes Plan To Creditors 
 
DETROIT (WWJ) – [I]There’s still a 50-50 chance Detroit will file for bankruptcy. 
 
That’s according to Detroit Emergency Manager Kevyn Orr, who has detailed a plan for the city’s financial future in a 134-page proposal to...]]></description>
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<div>‘We’re Tapped Out’: Detroit Emergency Manager Proposes Plan To Creditors<br />
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DETROIT (WWJ) – [I]There’s still a 50-50 chance Detroit will file for bankruptcy.<br />
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<i>That’s according to Detroit Emergency Manager Kevyn Orr, who has detailed a plan for the city’s financial future in a 134-page proposal to creditors.<br />
<br />
Orr on Friday sat down in a closed-door meeting with about 150 creditors, bond holders and unions to discuss the city’s fiscal situation, seeking concessions that would save Detroit millions of dollars in payments.<br />
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Perhaps the most dramatic aspect of his plan: Orr said, starting now, there will be a moratorium on debt payments for all unsecured funded debt. Creditors are being asked to take about 10 cents on the dollar of what’s owed them. Underfunded pension claims would get less.<br />
<br />
This latest comes as Detroit continues to spend more money than it takes in as revenue. The city’s budget deficit could top $380 million by July 1, and Orr now estimates the city’s long-term debt at $20 billion.<br />
<br />
“This is not a jaded effort just to get to a bankruptcy filing,” said Orr, addressing reporters following Friday’s meeting.  ”I sincerely want people to behave rationally and take this opportunity to work together.”<br />
<br />
As part of the proposal, Orr said he wants to invest $1.25 billion in the city for police and fire; and $500 million to fight blight.<br />
<br />
The plan also includes sweeping changes to pension and health care benefits, which Orr said he’ll discuss at a meeting with unions and pension leaders next Thursday.<br />
<br />
“What the average Detroiter needs to understand is that where we are right now is a culmination of years and years and years of kicking the can down the road,” said Orr, adding that his proposal should not be seen as a “hostile act” but as a step in the right direction.<br />
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“We’re tapped out,” Orr said.  ”We need to come up with a plan to restructure our debt obligations and our legacy obligations going forward — that is: pension, other employee benefits, health care, so on and so forth.”<br />
<br />
Orr said there are  about 10,000 current city workers, roughly 20,000 city retirees, and 700,000 Detroit residents.<br />
<br />
“We have to strike a balance between our legacy obligations to our creditors, our employees and our retirees, and the duty we have as a city to 700,000 residents to give them lights, police, fire, emergency management, clean streets,” Orr said.<br />
<br />
As part of his report, Orr details what led the city to this point. “During the past several decades, the City of Detroit (the “City”) has experienced changes that have adversely affected the economic circumstances of the City and its residents,” the report states — citing, among other thing, the city’s declining population, high unemployment rate, eroding tax base, high crime rate, and plummeting credit rating.<br />
<br />
What Orr’s proposal does not include is the much-discussed possibility that Detroit should sell Belle Isle, or the Detroit Institute of Arts’ collection.<br />
<br />
Orr, a Washington-based bankruptcy attorney, was hired by the state in March after a financial emergency was declared in Detroit.<br />
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</i>  Sounds like Barry's plan for the whole country.<br />
<a href="http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/06/14/detroit-emergency-manager-proposes-plan-to-creditors/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/06/...-to-creditors/</a></div>


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			<dc:creator>Mott the Hoople</dc:creator>
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			<title>Dalai Lama: Women May Make Better Leaders</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:10:59 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>The Dalai Lama says women may make better leaders (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/dalai-lama-women_n_3440583.html): 
 
The Dalai Lama weighed in on the debate around women leadership and came out firmly on the side of the female. 
 
Talking to reporters during a visit to Australia, the...</description>
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<div>The Dalai Lama says <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/dalai-lama-women_n_3440583.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">women may make better leaders</a>:<br />
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<div style="margin-left:40px">The Dalai Lama weighed in on the debate around women leadership and came out firmly on the side of the female.<br />
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Talking to reporters during a visit to Australia, the Buddhist leader was asked to weigh in on gender during a race for Prime Minister that has included charges of sexism.<br />
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Speaking generally, the Dalai Lama suggested that the crisis of suffering and inequality in the world requires a compassionate approach to leadership.</div></div>


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			<dc:creator>charles martel</dc:creator>
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			<title>When will our fucking leaders figure it out_ wars are a fucking waste</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:27:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>*Statement By John McCain and Lindsey Graham On Syria* 
 
“We appreciate the President’s finding that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons on several occasions. We also agree with the President that this fact must affect U.S. policy toward Syria. The President’s red line has been crossed....</description>
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<div><b>Statement By John McCain and Lindsey Graham On Syria</b><br />
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“We appreciate the President’s finding that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons on several occasions. We also agree with the President that this fact must affect U.S. policy toward Syria. The President’s red line has been crossed. U.S. credibility is on the line. Now is not the time to merely take the next incremental step. Now is the time for more decisive actions.... We cannot afford to delay any longer. Assad is on the offensive with every weapon in his arsenal and with the complete support of his foreign allies. We must take more decisive actions now to turn the tide of the conflict in Syria.”<br />
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My fucking God.  Email your Senator and Congress person.  I for one could give two fucks about Syria.  When I do read about the conflict, sound like it is a bunch of Muslim Brotherhoodish rebels against a even douchier regime.  Just have North Korea nuke the region and lets move on.<br />
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			<title>Twenty two US Veterans Take Their Own Life Every Day</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 05:09:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[And today it hit close to home.  Dan was a bright young man who believed that it was his duty to join the Army straight out of high school to win the "War on Terror".  He served three tours, got blown up a bazillion times, got exposed to major nasty chemicals, and took part in some hellish shit. 
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<div>And today it hit close to home.  Dan was a bright young man who believed that it was his duty to join the Army straight out of high school to win the &quot;War on Terror&quot;.  He served three tours, got blown up a bazillion times, got exposed to major nasty chemicals, and took part in some hellish shit.<br />
<br />
He mustered out with major TBI, PTSD (and all the ancillary shit that comes with it) and a bad case of Gulf War Syndrome.  He had one hell of a time getting treatment and disability benefits from the VA.<br />
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And last night he ate his sidearm.  His wife - my daughter's best friend - came home from work to find him.  He left this letter behind, with instructions encouraging folks to share it.<br />
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			It is no secret that I have long been struggling with extreme difficulties brought on by my participation in the Iraq war.  In addition to a wide variety of psychological problems, I’ve also been suffering from a variety of worsening physical illnesses that have been attributed to Gulf War Illness and brain injuries from a number of explosions during enemy attacks.  A cure, or even effective treatment for either problem has been eluding me for nearly a decade.  Though I have tried to the best of my ability, I have found it impossible to participate in society in any meaningful way.  Furthermore, my health problems have become an increasingly heavy burden on my family.<br />
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As such, I have decided that the best and most merciful thing for those involved is to have a quick and painless death now, rather than prolonging the situation while waiting for a breakthrough that may never come.  I am sorry for any difficulties that this may create.<br />
<br />
As there is nothing left that can be done for me, I ask that you now focus on helping my family through what will no doubt be a difficult time.<br />
<br />
Should you feel moved to action, I would ask that you look into what can be done for other veterans who are in my position - 22 per day according to the latest figures I’ve seen.  Much could be done to improve both the mental healthcare at the VA, as well as the backlog of nearly a million applicants waiting for disability benefits, in some cases for more than two years.  There are also new treatment options being explored for PTSD, depression, and anxiety which have had their research limited by the DEA and FDA.  Though it is too late for me, there are many more who could use your help.<br />
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Thank You,<br />
Daniel Somers
			
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Mission Accomplished!  Thank you for your service!  :rolleyes::nonono2::cussing:<br />
<br />
So, what to do, besides get drunk and post on the internet?<br />
<br />
I just sent Dan's message to POTUS, my senators and US Rep.  Told them they owe our wounded warriors the health care and assistance worthy of their sacrifice.  Whatever your beliefs about our recent South Central Asian adventures, our military personnel did what was asked, and now its time to make good on our commitment to them.<br />
<br />
Next time a President starts talking about kicking ass overseas, start screaming no.  Really, when was the last time we won a war overseas since WW2?  Grenada, Panama and Kuwait don't count, so the answer is &quot;never&quot;.  History is replete with lessons about war and treasure - its time the tools in DC learn them.<br />
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There's lots of organizations that help paraplegic vets get outside and active again on sitskis, handcycles and kayaks.  Volunteer a little time to share your love of outdoor sports with them.  IME, they bring the effort and don't whine.  Who knows, you may provide the motivation for some vet to keep going.<br />
<br />
And finally, if you see GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice or Wolfowitz, walk up and kick 'em in the nuts or cunt.  Judge will likely call it justified.<br />
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/drunken rant<br />
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			<dc:creator>telebobski</dc:creator>
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			<title>A Series of Articles at Fabius Maximus Website on NSA Spying</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:15:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>There are a series of insightful articles over at Fabius Maximus (http://fabiusmaximus.com/) on NSA spying. 
 
http://fabiusmaximus.com/ 
 
These are well worth the time and will no doubt increase in number as this crisis unfolds.</description>
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<div>There are a series of insightful articles over at <a href="http://fabiusmaximus.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Fabius Maximus</a> on NSA spying.<br />
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<a href="http://fabiusmaximus.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://fabiusmaximus.com/</a><br />
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These are well worth the time and will no doubt increase in number as this crisis unfolds.</div>


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			<dc:creator>charles martel</dc:creator>
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			<title>Edward Snowden identified as source of NSA leaks</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 00:48:45 GMT</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>stalefish3169</dc:creator>
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			<title>5 dead in Santa Monica hammer attack...</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 15:15:38 GMT</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>jfost</dc:creator>
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			<title>Oregon Rural Counties safety Funding</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 17:32:35 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[So a few months ago a chick living in a rural county in Oregon (Josephine County) calls 9-11 because someone is breaking into her house to accost her. The 9-11 operator says "pound sand" because the County's residents decided they didn't want to increase their property taxes (which are the lowest...]]></description>
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<div>So a few months ago a chick living in a rural county in Oregon (Josephine County) calls 9-11 because someone is breaking into her house to accost her. The 9-11 operator says &quot;pound sand&quot; because the County's residents decided they didn't want to increase their property taxes (which are the lowest in Oregon) to pay for their safety force.  Chick ends up getting raped and a bunch of her shit was stolen from her house.  Elected officials decide there's a safety issue in these counties...I've read some of them have just a handful of cops to patrol the entire county.  So they put it back out to the voters to marginally increase their property taxes to be more in line with the rest of the state and what do the citizens do?  Yup, they vote it down because they dont' want to pay taxes.  <br />
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Fast forward to today the Governor and other state elected officials didn't like that these counties voted down the tax increase and are now going to use funds from the states general budget to pay for their cops.  In other words these assbags in Josephine and Curry county will be sucking on the government teat.  <br />
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			The financial distress of former logging counties is a familiar issue for many Oregonians &#8212; one which we've covered many times before. But with Josephine and Curry counties once more rejecting public safety levies, the conversation in Salem has taken on an even more urgent tone. Since the levies were voted down last month, Governor Kitzhaber has floated the possibility of imposing an income tax on the cash-strapped counties, and even mobilizing the National Guard as a last resort.<br />
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Legislators are talking with commissioners and sheriffs from Josephine and Curry counties and are hoping to work out a plan by the end of the legislative session.<br />
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Do you live in an ONC county? What solution do you want to see to the law enforcement funding issue?
			
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<!-- END TEMPLATE: bbcode_quote_printable -->anyone that's lived in Oregon understands that areas outside of Portland, Eugene, and Ashland are pretty much GOP country. These folks have been convinced they have &quot;too much government&quot; and vote down any increase in funding regardless of the reason.  I say let them live in their GOP utopia.  They already suck on the government teet more than the rest of the state...so why should the rest of the state give them even more financial support?  <br />
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This is an interesting issue in that it's what goes on nationally but on a state scale.  Question for the teatards/GOPers on this one.  The citizens of these counties have built their mess/utopia through idiotic ballot decisions, depletion of their available logging resources, by electing conservatives, etc.  Shouldn't everyone just leave them alone and let them live they way they've decided, via their voting, is acceptable to them?</div>


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			<dc:creator>Adolf Allerbush</dc:creator>
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			<title>Is Hillary Finished before She Starts?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 13:11:03 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Article in WaPo makes the case that Hillary was an incompetant Sec of State: 
 
Hillary Clinton’s legacy of mismanagement abroad (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/03/26/hillary-clintons-legacy-of-mismanagement-abroad/) 
 
By Jennifer Rubin, Published: March 26, 2013 at 11:32 
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By Jennifer Rubin, Published: March 26, 2013 at 11:32<br />
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The mainstream media assume that, if Hillary Clinton wants the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination, all she need do is give an imperial wave, accept the crown and then begin her effortless procession to the White House. Perhaps. The same was said before the 2008 election. Now Clinton has a foreign-policy record, which political reporters unschooled in the issues and too nervous to dissect accurately (she’s going to be president, don’t you know) would have us believe is positive. Rubbish...</div><br />
The article goes on to point out 10 major mistakes she made.<br />
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Are these an indication she'd be a lousy president? Is she finished before she starts?</div>


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			<dc:creator>charles martel</dc:creator>
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