Snow blade advice (serious)

[Gorillo]

So this lady (I won't say that she was very french, that would be wrong) comes in the shop today and asks for snow blades...
We have on pair left ( dammit, don't know how they got there in the first place, someone got that order around me somehow) it is a asymetric fisher pair... Yes we have the ball to call ourselves a skiers shop and have a pair of snowblades.

So this lady turns out to be a full on commited snowblader ( she owns a quiver for herself and a pair for each of her kids. Her question and why she came to us was to figure out a way to put regular binders on the now blades without compromising the flex ? these things are 80cm in lenght... snow blade binders' screw patterns are really close to center point.

I'm considering :

- We have one hangle plate left ( she weighs 120lbs though)
- Get her on some line binders form an other shop cause I don't trust the shit.
-Telling her to get the fuck out of the shop and never come back.

Damn gonna have to get tecky with snowblades...I shall shrivel in shame...

p.s. Any maggots in MTL looking for a job : we need some good help ( hard to come by in MTL) : casadordepuma AT yahoo DOT ca

[bad_roo]

I would really try to advise her against putting ski binders on them. What's the point? As you say it will ruin the flex pattern of the skiboard due to the mounting points. The only binding that would work would probably be a Line Reactor but, as we all know, they don't work. ;)

At the 2001 ISSS meeting in New Zealand, Veit Senner and Peter Schaff from Munich presented information, with computer modelling, comparing accidents on skis and skiboards. The initial hypothesis was that a skiboard binding might only need to release laterally, as in a twisting fall, but that perhaps a heel release was not so important. Simulating a ski tip block (i.e. an * abrupt stop going into snow) on both a ski and a skiboard, they found that a heel release was also very important. Their three major findings were:-

* That the upward directed vertical force at the boot heel on a skiboard was much lower than that on a ski - too low to trigger a ski binding to release.
* That the speed with which a skiboarder would fall forwards in such an event was almost double that of a skier
* Because of this rapid forwards motion, a heel release on a skiboard binding would need to occur earlier than on a ski. This could only happen with a release setting almost 2/3 less than the current ISO standard! This might increase the risk of injuries from inadvertent releases

From this they concluded that an alpine ski binding would offer sub-optimal protection against injury on a skiboard and that such bindings should not be used on skiboards.

Thrill her with your newfound skiboard expertise.

[Gorillo]

Damn right that I'll trill her. Sweet ! Thanks Roo

[Mountain Junkie]

At the risk of sounding like a moron, where is MTL?

[jibij]

Originally posted by Mountain Junkie
At the risk of sounding like a moron, where is MTL?

QBC

[DINMS]

Ummmmmm, There is so little to flex what is the point?

Bitch.

[enzo3366]

i need advice. for serious.

[Tunco]

i need advice. for serious.

Plastics.

[Powow]

Why do snowblades even need to release? I'm pretty sure the ones I've seen dont release anyways, and it makes sense. They're so short that they can't really twist or hyperextend your knees can they? It would be like releasable ice skates.

[jonnyquest]

The Head Big Easy 94's (94cm) have the Tyrolia SP100 releasable bindings premounted on them. Tyrolia hasn't made any suggestion for DIN adjustments for snow blades. Nor have they done so for bindings mounted on shorter skis, such as kids skis (unless less than 9 yrs old). I agree that an adjustment needs to be made, but it doesn't look like ASTM has spent any time on it yet.
In my opinion, you can put a standard alpine binding on the blades and even test them. I am sure you are covered legally because:
-In the indemnified list and tech manuals, there is no mention of ski length involved
-A releasable binding is safer than the wire trap style, even if it takes more torque to release.

As for the flex, it will be effected somewhat. But seriously, if she is looking for performance, why is she snowblading?

Good luck.

[Andy_B]

Wow. You guys are on the ball.

:nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2:

[psychkub]

Spruce makes a riser that is supposed to mount close to the normal 4 hole patter of skiboards. You can purchase the binding and riser together from here: http://www.skiboardsonline.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=spruce_pro_prime_bindings&Category_Code=bindings

[BigLineSeeker]

why not use a rail-flex setup from Tyrolia? That should take care of the flex issue (kinda sorta).

[Hutch]

too funny.

[skifishbum]

whatever you decide don't let her leave the shop w/out acessories
powder cords
http://www.biglines.com/photos/normal/biglines_53438.jpg
And cat tracks for extra good traction
http://www.biglines.com/photos/normal/biglines_53439.jpg
Cause you never know when a maggot w/ a camera may be lurking
Yeti that shit still cracks me up

[Hutch]

yeah, don't let her leave the shop!

(If she's still there, 45 months later)...

[Benny Profane]

Oh shit, that has to be the funniest picture ever posted here. Thanx for the laugh again.