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Neon
03-20-2007, 07:23 AM
Has anyone skied it?
How do they compare to their bigger brothers?
Thx.

mntlion
03-20-2007, 09:32 AM
PM waxman, he knows all re dynastar

waxman
03-20-2007, 09:53 AM
except these, as we sold out pretty fast and i was only able to hand flex them in the stores
the only three pair i touched seemed (this in a side by side hand flex vs 186 and 194) to feel like this
194=100% stiff
186=97% stiff
176=94% stiff
now note this was by the traditional hand flex so it was by feel....the girls that are on them really like them (in the great white north we only brought in the green exclusive pro)...

Neon
03-20-2007, 02:06 PM
Hey, still better than nothing...
So basically there is the same difference flexwise between the 176 and the 186, as there is between the 194 and the 186?
same construction with no significant down-tuning for the lesser length?
That what I was hoping...
Any idea re weight?

pechelman
03-20-2007, 02:14 PM
Any idea re weight?

http://www.dynastar.com/popup/produit.php?product=590

2050g each

ulty_guy
03-20-2007, 05:21 PM
I've been on both and as a reference, 180 explosivs are my 'go to' ski. The 176 is not light at all, a 180 exploder is def lighter in feels and probably in weight. I like the 186 lp a lot, I find it has all the good stuff of the exploder with a bit of carvability thrown in. They don't scale down the sidecut on the 176 so it ends up having too much imho and ruins the ski. I think you should opt for the 180 exploder is you need shorter/lighter or just go for the 186 lp.

amatog
03-21-2007, 07:01 PM
The radius of the 176 is 26m, the same as a 183 Gotama. Pretty solid imho.

mmm0643
03-27-2007, 02:30 PM
I demoed these for the first time this weekend at Aspen and bought them at the end of the day ($299 w/ bindings; they'd been skied six times MAX--a STEAL!). I skied and bought the 176, and it is plenty of ski for me. I'm 6', 160#. I know guys who ski it in the 186 as their powder ski, but I was looking for something I could use on most days. The 176 was phenomonal all over the mountain--a perfect balance of stable and nimble. I'm taking them into Highland Bowl--where conditions are still mid-winter!!--in the next couple of days

I've heard that the 186 and 194 have an extra layer of metal that the 176 doesn't have. Does anyone know if this is true? I also read that this ski is handmade in Dynastar's race factory (which is why it retailed for $1,100 w/o a binding), and that it's essentially a fat GS race ski. Today, someone told me that that's true only for the 186 and 194. True?

waxman
03-27-2007, 02:59 PM
for the first couple of generations of LPR they were made in the race room (which can only build about 8 pairs a day) but as the LPR gained it's rep too many were being sold so production has been moved to the race production line as of the 06/07 orange and black skis (or green exclusive pro)
extra metal? couldn't tell you
as far as being a fat GS/SG ski that about sums it up, the XXL is the "powder" ski....

Neon
03-28-2007, 05:25 AM
Is the green exclusive pro the exact same ski or is there some minor difference?
If I get a 176 I could as well get a woman's version...

rvski
03-28-2007, 01:00 PM
hey waxman,

So were the 05 lps raceroom skis?? thanks

~Riceky

waxman
03-28-2007, 03:21 PM
neon-graphic is supposed to be the only difference
rvski-orange/white surf graphic? very square topsheet/sidewall? yes...