ACL = 3rd degree tear

[basom]

happend on the last run on sunday. wildcat trees. one of the deepest days of my life. got high sided going mach..... POP!

second day of a two week trip, now i'm leaving for boston today and not jackson. not going to the summit. :mad:

it was nice to meet a few utards out there the last few days, altachic (dont' need that ride from you and natty now), phunk, mr. altagirl. wish i met more of you. i was also super stoked to meet all the tahoe crew..... next time


does two amazing days of pow = not skiing the rest of the season? i mean they were epic days, and i was chargin. FACK

this is one bummed basehead. have fun out there for me maggots.

[CantDog]

FACK bro, that really really blows. If its any consolation, looks like the EC season is ending soon(rain and 50 today) so you wont be missing too much. And at least the injury was at the end of february, not the middle of december. Damn, seems like the EC crew is really taking a beating this year. I'll be channelling all my healing vibes your way.

[rightcoast]

damn. sorry to hear about the knee.
stay positive and recover!!

[bad_roo]

Bad luck dude. How many days did you log this season? I'm gonna max out at 21 tops if it makes you feel any better...

[iceman]

Well, that sucks. Heal up, man.

Is 3rd degree the worst?

[duph]

Originally posted by iceman
Well, that sucks. Heal up, man.

Is 3rd degree the worst?

yeah, that means it's damaged to the point where it's no longer functional and will not get better without surgery. Sorry to hear it basom.

[basom]

i think it means the tendon is not connected anymore

days this season, does SA in aug/sept count as this year??

las lenas -14
jay peak- 35
K -mart -1
MRG - 1
ALTA - 2

could be worse i suppose

[vinzclortho]

wow dude, that's the toughest call. sorry to hear that.


well, if the warm weather continues, Tia's, the Charthouse, the landing (next to the aquarium/marriott long wharf)....all those places near the water.....will be open for early season outdoor drinkin!!

[acostiga]

those last runs of the day can be brutal, with the flatter light, tired legs and such. sorry to hear about the injury. remember the wise words of capt. lance murdock: bones heal and chicks dig scars. hope it won't hinder any st. paddy's day proceedings.

[noodles]

damn dude, that sux. You will be missed at the summit. Myself and my girl both wish you a speedy recovery.

[Lynx]

Basom! SO Sorry to hear about this....<<sending speedy recovery and safe surgery vibes>> hang in there, and hey....on the bright side of the "why aren't there any more powder mags for the year issue"..... at least you wont have to see a new one until sept when we all hope you will be healed and ready to charge the new season.

[splat]

NO!!!!!! I am so bummed, Ben. I was looking forward to hanging with you again this next week. Shit!

[Big E]

Shit! That sucks Ben. I for one will be glad to see this season drift off into history, we've all read far too many of these posts (including one by yours truly) this year.

Really, really bummed to hear that, I know even in December how pumped you were for the summit, to have it snatched away now really blows.

Not much else to say, be glad you got in as many days as you did (see CantDog's "at least the injury was at the end of february, not the middle of december"), get fixed up quick, don't slack for even a day on rehab, blah, blah, blah.

APK, noodles, gin - be careful, this makes 2 out of 5 of the crew from when I was at Jay :mad: Perhaps I'll go back to needlepoint. Those things are sharp, though!

[tibaher]

I guess I'll just have to save this moster spliff I was gunna bring down to tahoe for the next time I'm in beantown.

and that makes me sad.

FWIW, if I had to do it again, I would not do a patella graft for the replacement. I would go hamstring or cadaver.

[watersnowdirt]

sorry to hear that! Heal fast and well!

[Arty50]

Don't worry basom, I hear the weather's supposed to be meh next week. So you're probably not missing much, except maybe excessive gambling, drinking, and debauchery.

As for chics digging scars, we'll have to trade notes on this soon. :D

I hope the surgery goes exceptionally well. Heal up soon!

[meatdrink9]

That's rough man. It sounds like you had a great season up this point though. Heal up quick and work hard.

[Big E]

Originally posted by tibaher
FWIW, if I had to do it again, I would not do a patella graft for the replacement. I would go hamstring or cadaver.

Really? Mind elaborating? Depends a lot on the doc doing it, but general consensus still seems to be that patellar is the best in the long run.

We have way too many among us with first-hand experience.

[tibaher]

Only because 3 years later,
I still am unable to kneel down on that knee without significant discomfort. Might not be a big deal for someone who doesn't spend much time on their knees ;)

[Steven S. Dallas]

Originally posted by tibaher
Might not be a big deal for someone who doesn't spend much time on their knees ;)

You obviously don't know basom that well.

Dude, I am so bummed and sorry for you. As soon as I got your email and saw the subject I felt sick. All I can say is fuck fuckety fuck fuck fuck. Is it the same knee from summer hockey? Tahoe will not be the same without you, and you know this, mang.

Hang tough.

[Xover]

stoke killer dude

hope to see ya back at Alta next year though

[AK G-Dog]

That totally sucks, sorry to hear it.

It was about two years ago that I did mine. It is not as bad as it sounds. I did a ton of research and decided the hamstring graft was best for me. My surgeon said it has really gone up in use due to new and improved attachment techniques.

Rehab is not that bad. You will be able to bike your way to recovery and be at 100% by next fall. With the exception of missing the rest of this year (and being on a killer trip and summit bound :() you picked a good time to do it. Figure surgery in April, in house re-hab for 6 to 8 weeks and then bike your way to recovery over the summer. Then gym it hard in September and October and hit the slopes in November.

Good luck!

BTW, the drugs you get are pretty fucking good.

[basom]

thanks everyone.
stay safe, and have fun.
i'm on a plane back to the bean in two hours.

rip the shit out of shit for me

[altagirl]

Damn, that sucks.

But at least you'll have plenty of time to heal up for next season.

FWIW, I also went with a hamstring graft. Modern hamstring techniques are excellent and you won't have patellar tendonitis problems like you might with a patellar graft. I had no problem getting my hamstring back in shape afterwards. But there are individual factors too, so you should discuss with your surgeon.

[Dexter Rutecki]

Shit, my man. You know I feel your pain--I guess I'll be beating you into surgery by about a month.
If it makes you feel any better, the Jay days you listed beat my entire season, and your SA days on their own weren't that far behind what I got in this year.
Besides, think of all the extra time you can spend drinking with Bill now.

[Z]

oh man, sucks to hear that Basom.....At least you got good some good days in tho....

and your probably not missing much more out East, even Jay is gettin rain.....some of my best days this year were tearin it up with you and bill....muchas gracias..

[CantDog]

Originally posted by Z
oh man, sucks to hear that Basom.....At least you got good some good days in tho....

and your probably not missing much more out East, even Jay is gettin rain.....some of my best days this year were tearin it up with you and bill....muchas gracias..


I second that, the two best days I had this season were at Jay with you guys, and at MRG with the whole crew. And there is always next year to look forward to.

[duph]

Originally posted by tibaher

FWIW, if I had to do it again, I would not do a patella graft for the replacement. I would go hamstring or cadaver.

No complaints here on the patella results, except for having needed them.

[altachic]

Damn dude...i just saw this. Great meeting you as well. Keep a good attitude and stay positive as much as you can. I know how it feels, as do a lot of others here.

Work hard to get that knee back to where it should be. PT as much as you can handle, and a little bit more. You'll be out ripping next season for sure. I have no doubts! Best of luck. :D

[InspectorGadget]

Originally posted by altachic
Work hard to get that knee back to where it should be. PT as much as you can handle, and a little bit more. You'll be out ripping next season for sure.

Wise words from AC.

Sorry to hear you boogered your knee. Do the work . . . . you'll be back strong next year.

[Buster Highmen]

Mucho condolences. Acknowledgement, meditiation, resolution, PT, operation, PTPTPTPT.

Mine, a hamstring graft, has been very slow to heal, but it is geting stronger.

[crashnburn'd]

Damn man, sorry to hear... Was hopin' for another Jay day here this spring. Rehashing what everyone from the east said, I was at Smuggs today and it was sloppy. You aren't missing much... Wish you a fast recovery.

[gincognito]

You know it won't be the same at Tahoe without you. Was so stoked to have the Jay crew tearing it up down there. I guess the remaining few will have to stumble along and do our best to make you proud.

Stay strong and focus on next year.

d.

[Steven S. Dallas]

I almost forgot...

Pussy.

[G]

Sorry to hear it, man.

[noodles]

Originally posted by Alex P. Keaton
I almost forgot...

Pussy.

I believe "nancy boy" was the proper term.

[snorkeldeep]

Ben,

That really sucks dude.. sorry to hear it. Saw you on monday at bird in the lot as we were leaving on the bus - tried yelling but we were already pulling away. I did this last year, it really sucked.. good to hear you got some days in this year though. Hang in there, you'll be back before you know it.

[basom]

thanks for the encouragement guys. especially you APK.

i aprieciate it.
its good to know i will be following in the path of so many worthy maggots.

the positive side is the one i like to stand on (funny how i hang with bill so much;)).

it is somewhat satisfying to know that my last day this season was the best day of skiing i have had in my 26 years. surely enough to keep me motivated to get back at it as soon as possible


edit: i just looked at my "peg leg" title- thinkin i prolly jinxed myself with that one.

[powder11]

big time bummer... for what its worth i would trade all the lame ass crappy ec ski days so far this season for two days of epic at alta. no joke. to a SAFE and quick healing!

[basom]

surgical bump.

sooo after jumping through HMO hoops, balking on one doctor, and one scheduling nightmare later i am finaly having my knee done tomarrow.
i'm trying my hardest to get amped up for all the hard work in front of me, but am having a difficult time finding the mind set i had right after the injury, when i was all pumped up. now i have rehabed the knee to the point where i am crusing around with out a limp and no pain on stairs, or any pain at all. so knowing that i am going to be in another world of pain when i come out of anesthesia tomarrow, and that my mobility is going to go backwards for quite a bit, is not that fun of a thought.
i have been geeting pretty fat too with out much excersise besides leg lifts and ski sits. so i hope by the time i'm getting into the cardio part of the rehab i dont look like brando.
anyways, i'm sure there will be some oxycontin induced posts coming from basom this week.

[crashnburn'd]

Good luck with the surgery and the rehab after. Any hope of biking this summer? Be cool to get together for a ride before I go back to the midwest....

[altagirl]

It sucks having to wait so long, but get yourself motivated to get ready for ski season.

And as far as weight gain goes, it shouldn't be too bad. I know when I was in that stage where you're not doing much yet in PT, the painkillers made me not want to eat much. You'll lose muscle, but I didn't gain weight. Then you'll be spending a lot of time at the gym for rehab - look at it as an opportunity to get in even better shape than you were before - you're there anyway...

[gincognito]

Positive vibes sent your way. The "world of pain" following the operation and the swimming out of the sleepy fog are highly overrated. It really wasn't so bad (I seem to recall the initial injury and following morning to be infinitely worse - in fact I think I still have all the painkillers they gave me following the slice). The lack of mobility and flexibility will be the biggest bummer so worry about that before getting to psyched for strength.

Here's hoping for a hot nurse for ya!

Sick and ashamed and happy (and thanks for the vid),
d.

[altagirl]

I don't know. Pain levels are totally different for everyone.

When I tore my ACL, I heard the pop, felt it give out and had no pain whatsoever - not even a twinge. My knee felt great but was unstable until I had the surgery. When I came out of anesthesia I was in the worst pain I've ever experienced - and it lasted for days. I lived on percocet and ice, which just barely took the edge off.

Second knee surgery - torn meniscus hurt when I walked on it at the time of injury, and after surgery I didn't have any pain and didn't even need so much as an aspirin. Nothing. I felt GREAT from the moment I woke up.

So honestly, I wouldn't even know what to expect in terms of pain for myself if I was going through it again. I'd just plan for lots of pain and be happy when it isn't as bad as I thought...

Prep your room where you plan on sitting around watching TV, elevating your leg and sleeping. Make sure you can get to the bathroom without tripping on stuff with crutches. Set up a cooler, books, remote controls, phone, laptop... Have a bag so you can carry stuff with crutches and drink cups with lids so you can carry them without spilling. Stock up on stuff that settles your stomach that you can make yourself eat with painkillers (oatmeal, yogurt...) Hopefully you'll be lucky and all of that will be overkill, but it's better to be prepared, even if you have someone taking care of you....

[3o3]

Percocet's a binder-upper. 2 bowls of raisin bran for breakfast will do wonders for your attitude. :)
Good luck with the surgery and rehab. altagirl's list of stuff to keep close by is a good one.

[splat]

Eat lots of vitamin C and glucosamine, Ben.
And lose your painkillers ;) so you have extras for later.

[Dexter Rutecki]

Good luck, man. I can totally empathize with you. Gimme a PM or call if there's anything I can do for you from here. And stay ahead on those painkillers, at least for two or three days. Percocet should keep you happy.

-RD

[xboat]

man, i think we're paddling the same boat. it's been a little over 4 weeks now since i tore my acl for the second time. other than my leg feeling pretty weak, i'm able to do about anything - been playing quite a bit of golf and it doesn't even get sore afterwards. i'm thinking about trying to get my leg built up a bit and go back to the doc for a re-evaluation to see how loose it is. i really don't want to get cut again.....

keep us posted buddy and good luck to ya.

[basom]

thanks again, all.

nice tips altagirl, some stuff there i hadnt thought of.

i had been over at the rehab center, a.k.a. mom's crib, doing some nesting in preperation for the first few days of post surgery. i was told by by doc, "it will be best if you arnt alone for those first days". but of course i left my MRI prints at my apartment, so here i am, back home to pick up the prints. doh.

had vietnamese food for dinner. immune system is peaking. ready to go.

see you guys on the other side.

[Big E]

Good luck, b. I can't imagine being alone for the first ~week after surgery. Oh man that would suck.

xboat, sorry to hear that. You're trying to avoid surgery? Hope you can, but it doesn't seem too many people have problems walking/running around within a few weeks after hurting it. Then you go out and play basketball or ski or whatever and you realize it's not right. Good luck.

[xboat]

thanks man. i guess i'm just trying to put off what probably needs to be done. i just don't want to do it this summer. a year off from skiing to have it done and rehab in the winter wouldn't kill me. i guess that because i've been down that road before, i'm really hesitant to go there again. no fun at all.

how's yours doin'?

[basom]

i'm bumping this thread today because i just came back from the doctor, and the news was so encouraging that i feel its time to bring this full circle.

its been a long road since february 29th, and a lot of work. hell, its been a long ass five months since i got knifed. some ups, some setbacks. and to tell you the truth six weeks ago i wasn't sure if i would be on skis before the spring. as it is i'm about four weeks away strength wise, and the doc doesn't even want to see me again before i get back on the snow. As long as i keep doing what i have been i will only miss two weeks of the season (stowe opens on Nov. 19), and that feels so good to me right now.

i want to thank everyone here who has positively effected me knowingly or otherwise. i am constantly amazed by the friends i have made through this board, and the support they have provided.

i can't tell you how much the stoke on this bord has kept me hungry, and the humor has helped the time pass.

the season is so close i can taste it, and my excitement levels are off the charts (mostly due to the early start on the west side). even though it will take some time before i will feel comfortable fully charging again i still think this can be a better season than the last, which was better than the one before that, and so on. progression will still happen, and it gets me all tingly inside to think about.

to all the friends on here that i have had the pleasure of making turns with, and to all those i have yet to meet. thank you, and i'm almost back baby.

i'll be with you soon, and i'm going to rip the shit out of it, so bring a camera.

post operative thread featuring drug induced posts and my asian entourage (http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12138&highlight=positive+vibes+basom)

[iceman]

Just don't tell the people at your company, that way you can keep playing on the internet all day.

[mildbill.]

so bring a camera.

no, you're bringing the camera, bitch.








and uber stoked on the good news, uber uber uber.

[vinzclortho]

yeah dude. great to hear that PT and what not is going good. have fun charging the front four this season. I'll keep looking for a van to live in by the side of truckee river so you'll have a place to crash next year.

[splat]

Try not to make any last runs this year, basom, huh?

[basom]

Just don't tell the people at your company, that way you can keep playing on the internet all day.

heh. i tried to get back in the field, but i guess i 'm so good at the desk job here that we make more money with me managing rather than me hitting stuff with a hammer.

so i should catch your post count by the new year.

[altagirl]

That's so good to hear! Good work on the rehab and have fun this winter!!! :D

[crashnburn'd]

I'm now officially done with my "haha, basom's got a bum leg jokes"











(maybe)

[basom]

Try not to make any last runs this year, basom, huh?


thats the plan! http://tetongravity.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

[iceman]

so i should catch your post count by the new year.

dude, you are definitely gaining on me.

p.s. poo holes

[basom]

dude, you are definitely gaining on me.

p.s. poo holes



hahahahah pooooooo holes!

[gincognito]

If there is a bright side to be seen in this knee injury, it is the fact that we all got a full dose of the basom humour. It's fun having you here full time.

Having said that, super stoked that you'll be ripping it up again soon. Don't know how often I'll see you at Jay, but we will definitely make some turns together throughout the year.

Rock on.

SaAaH (and a pooo hole to you),
d.

[basom]

gin we will certainly rock this year, at jay, at stowe, at jackson, and we are getting you to some skiing on Mt. washington this year that is not a tucks sufferfest.

i'm blacked out of stowe christmas week and likely to be up in newport skiing the jizz, so you are going to stay on the south side of the boarder and party it up with the americans then.

[Karl Stall]

Hey Basom,

I had forgotten about the mishap - that's awesome that you're on your way back, man.

Despite being a Boston fan with a weak sense of humor, you are a great contributor to this community - can't wait to make some turns with you.

Game on. And I don't mean baseball.

[mildbill.]

i'm blacked out of stowe christmas week and likely to be up in newport skiing the jizz, so you are going to stay on the south side of the boarder and party it up with the americans then.

ooh oooh can i play too!?!?!?

[Vinman]

Boys I have a friend who's got a video production company that is looking to shoot some footage. I talked to him about a week ago and he wants to shoot some easy gully runs and some Mansfield/Smuggs locations too. If we do an EC mini I might be able to get him in for that too.

[CantDog]

Good to hear the knees doing well Base. Cant wait to get my ass kicked by the crew again this year.

[basom]

Hey Basom,

I had forgotten about the mishap - that's awesome that you're on your way back, man.

Despite being a Boston fan with a weak sense of humor, you are a great contributor to this community - can't wait to make some turns with you.

Game on. And I don't mean baseball.

i blame the bad humor on the lead pipes.

but yes, together we will rip. you are summit bound, no?

[basom]

ooh oooh can i play too!?!?!?

i don't know, its further from mission hill than cambridge.

[Big E]

Awesome news, b. I'm still wondering if I'm truly ready to go, even though the doc said I was a few months ago, and the knee has never given me any real reason to doubt it. Strange, but the mental hurdle seems greater after the second one. Maybe cause I really don't want a third one.

[mildbill.]

i don't know, its further from mission hill than cambridge.

ahh forget it then. i'm just going to use an old door to slide down that rock face on pontiac where they found the dead body.

[crashnburn'd]

ahh forget it then. i'm just going to use an old door to slide down that rock face on pontiac where they found the dead body.

This sounds like fun... There's a small hill near my house where they dump construction debris, bricks, concrete, etc. Tried skiing down it, but doesn't work so well with all the concrete and what not. I'll have to try to surf it on a door...

[Mcwop]

Glad to hear things coming along. Hope to meet you at the summit.

Curious, in your original post you described the accident as follows: "got high sided going mach..... POP!"

If you don't mind me asking how exactly did it happen? I do understand if you don't want to relive it again, or simply don't remember. :smile:

Cheers

[mildbill.]

This sounds like fun... There's a small hill near my house where they dump construction debris, bricks, concrete, etc. Tried skiing down it, but doesn't work so well with all the concrete and what not.

as an expert in these kind of things i recommend you go back with your XXXs and try again. report back, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

[basom]

Curious, in your original post you described the accident as follows: "got high sided going mach..... POP!"

If you don't mind me asking how exactly did it happen? I do understand if you don't want to relive it again, or simply don't remember. :smile:

Cheers


sure guy. heres how it went down:

over the shoulder day that went bell to bell, so i was worked by the last run.
if you are familier with wildcat at alta you know how it is a series of gullies. i was maching huge turns from gully wall to gully wall. as i climed the skiers left wall or 'bank' at a good clip my intention was to turn right, back into the fall line of the gully. As i unweighted to turn i saw utter sweetness in the gully to my left, and made the instant choice to continue left, down the fall line of the gully wall to the left. mind you i was navel deep at this moment.

with good forward momentum i attempted to suck my knees to my chest and point my core into the left gully, but the lower half of me kept wanting to turn back into the gully i had come from. something caught my right tip, some harder snow, a rock, a root, i have no idea. but as i tried to suck my body up, it just stayed extended, and then everthing came down on my right knee. all my forward momentum and downward force at the same moment. hyperextend, upper body pitche forward, right leg stays lodged wher it is, pop, season over.

so i guess high sided does not explain it well, because that implies an uphill twisting fall, where as this was more of a dual fall line, ridge fubar, clusterfuck, end over end hyperextension, in deep snow.

[crashnburn'd]

as an expert in these kind of things i recommend you go back with your XXXs and try again. report back, you'll be pleasantly surprised.

me - maybe
you - definately

I'm a bit worried that maybe they won't provide the floation that's needed to propel myself over bricks. I originally tried on some nice purple Rossignol v4k's (pretty sweet rig if I do say so) and I definately didn't float. Maybe I should buy some spats and try.

[altagirl]

Awesome news, b. I'm still wondering if I'm truly ready to go, even though the doc said I was a few months ago, and the knee has never given me any real reason to doubt it. Strange, but the mental hurdle seems greater after the second one. Maybe cause I really don't want a third one.

You can do it. I know it takes a while to trust your knee again, but it'll come back!

[basom]

yeah E, what AG said.

you can dooo it!!!!! come to VT and gimp it up with me. we'll ski all conservitive, and stick to the groom, it will be epic!

i'm shop forming gear as we speak because i'm so stoked.

[mildbill.]

Maybe I should buy some spats and try.

you should definitely try that. i'll grab you some mismatched marker m700s out of our spare parts bin at the shop and ship them to you in exchange for a keg of leinenkeugel (sp?)

[Endlessseason]

Yes!!! That is such awesome news, Basom! Glad you're back. Believe me, you'll appreciate skiing even more after working so hard to get back to it.

[basom]

Yes!!! That is such awesome news, Basom! Glad you're back. Believe me, you'll appreciate skiing even more after working so hard to get back to it.


thanks endless,
hard to imagine skiing getting better, seeing how its the best thing ever, but if it can then...... oh yeah! :yourock:

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

so now that you're back...are you still in the Winnebago swearing your fucking ass off? If not, can I move in for this season?

[basom]

well i don't know if i'm ready to move out quite yet, still a little ways to go untill the strength is fully there, and then a little more time swearing my fucking ass off because i can't charge. however, the winnebago has lots of room in the reer for guests. so move in, grab a black label, and start your cussin'


I FUCKED UP THE WORD REAR!

[gincognito]

I FUCKED UP THE REAR!

:fmicon:

SaAaH (and somebody was gonna do it...),
d.

[basom]

man i was trying to fuck this nice little rear on saturday. iceman was in town and we were hanging at the bar his brother works at. needless to say we were indulging. Ice's friend Will picked up two ladies outside who were bumming train fare. one was cute and both were drunk.
long story short, i was invited home with them, but due to my hallucinatory state i opted not to vomit in her sock drawer, and just assured her i'd call her later. stupid whiskey dick.

[iceman]

A rough day. Jesus, I'm still feeling sick. What time did you leave, base?

[basom]

hahahahaha. i couldn't sleep well on the couch, your boy from manilla sounds like a fricken chainsaw. i think i bailed around 7:30 am, probly shouldn't have been driving. your brother makes a mean martini.

also, could you confirm that Jill was Hot, or hotish at least, i think my memory may be altered slightly.

[iceman]

Yeah she was at least hottish, maybe a little better than that. I didn't know you got the invite, or if I knew I forgot. I went to bed after 4:00, you were asleep on the couch. Aparently my bro and George (the guy from Manilla) stayed up even later. Long day yesterday.

[basom]

Yeah she was at least hottish, maybe a little better than that. I didn't know you got the invite, or if I knew I forgot. I went to bed after 4:00, you were asleep on the couch. Aparently my bro and George (the guy from Manilla) stayed up even later. Long day yesterday.

all i know is it took three people four attempts to write down her phone number. i was beyond gone. good thing we went to wills and smoked like a hundred joints after that.
i am very glad i didn't have to fly anywhere yesterday.

[iceman]

Man, they had to do some shit like change runways or something, we were in this packed little commuter-type jet, we sat there on the runway for almost half an hour with no AC running, alcohol was literally dripping from every pore in my body. I'm sure the lady sitting next to me was stoked.

[basom]

sure she was stoked, i mean, free booze!