2007 summit dates and place

[Woodsy]

did we decide this already?

[Buster Highmen]

SLC/LCC/BCC -> been done
JH -> been done
Tahoe -> been done
PNW, W/BC -> been done.

So doesn't that sort of leave CO?
Silverton/Telluride/CB?

Ahspen?

Grunt Range?

[sfotex]

Montucky?

[Below Zero]

Colorado is next

CB as post - drive if it snows.

[The Dad]

Colorado is so fucking obvious. Let's go off the beaten trail, shall we?

Snowshoe Mountain, West Virginia?
Trollhaugen, Wisconsin?
Crystal Methountain, Michigan?
Perfect North, Indiana?

[tarkman1]

Banff?
Kicking Horse?

[Buster Highmen]

Colorado is so fucking obvious. Let's go off the beaten trail, shall we?

Snowshoe Mountain, West Virginia?
Trollhaugen, Wisconsin?
Crystal Methountain, Michigan?
Perfect North, Indiana?

pfft, how about Whitecap, the Porkies or Mt. Ripley?

[MOHSHSIHd]

crusty butt for gnar



basin for rage purposes...


either way do it during CU spring break

[Grange]

pfft, how about Whitecap, the Porkies or Mt. Ripley?

Don't forget Mt. Bohemia with their Extreme Backcountry.

I could almost guarantee I'd be there if we held it in the in that neck of the woods, but since I know what sarcasm is I won't book my hotel room just yet.

[skiHOG]

i think CO summit should wait until the Breck-Vail gondola is done. I hear it's gonna be off the hook.

[3eyedsmiley]

Interior BC (Red Mtn. Kicking Horse Fernie) and then Montana would be pretty nice.

[adam]

A Basin! Or loveland . . .

[The Dad]

In all seriousness, for a change of pace....

What has made certain summits more or less successful? Obviously, snow and terrain quality are key. But what about the other factors -- ease of access from the airport to the slopes, time and cost of flights from the variety of places in which we all live, gaper madness and related delays, etc.?

[adam]

A-Basin is a great choice. There's easy access, the beach, hotels everywhere, cheap prices, good snow, terrain, and it would be sick of course.

[Squatch]

For everything but costs, Aspen is probably a good choice. I don't know what the overall financial situation of the maggot populace is, so that could screw things up. Although, looking at a picture of a bar tab from this year's summit...who knows? (What happened to a few 30-racks of pibbers, folks?)

CB would probably be better in terms of price, but definitely harder to access. Personally, this would be my choice, since if I went I'd drive regardless, but I don't know how the rest of the populace feels.

A problem in CO is that proximity to major/cheap airports also means an influx of gapers. Don't come to summit unless you want to ski OB.

[spthomson]

i think CO summit should wait until the Breck-Vail gondola is done. I hear it's gonna be off the hook.

Still on schedule for Feb/Mar 2007 grand opening, no? Could be perfect...

[Woodsy]

how about a long 2 stager like this year, only insteead of Skiattle->whistelr we do Front Range/Summit-> sw colorado via CB & ASpen

[MassLiberal]

Jay Peak,

with a side trip to Stowe... Ahhh yeah..

In all seriousness though, kicking horse or silverton would be pretty sweet.

[Nohillsnearby]

Colorado is so fucking obvious. Let's go off the beaten trail, shall we?

Snowshoe Mountain, West Virginia?
Trollhaugen, Wisconsin?
Crystal Methountain, Michigan?
Perfect North, Indiana?

Hey NOW! No need to get snarky!!! Midwest definitely needs a mini this winter.

[snowsprite]

I've only been to one "official" summit... the others were mini-summits. That one was Tahoe, and I thought it was great! It was held in March, which worked out well b/c we didn't have to leave the EC goods (yes, there were actually goods that year!) in Jan/Feb. We were able to hit several areas which were in fair proximity of each other. And had a few nice happy hours. It doesn't take much to make a good summit. The attendees generally make it totally worthwhile to be there! :cool:

I think CO would be great, I've always wanted to ski there and have a fair chance of convincing Mr. Sprite to go although it will take some really creative and strategic positioning on my part (yep, I'll have to break out the WD-40 for this one). We rented an expensive ski house for next season, and he's going to balk at going out West too. So I'm really going to have to work on him for this...cuz I really want to go.

Sprite

[TJ.Brk]

Well I would say Aspen. And believe it or not the BC is killer there. 4 mtns. And maybe if we got everybody to reserve at the same place I could use my military discount for a mass reservation.

[Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo]

I am obviously biased, but my vote would be for somewhere in CO. Aspen would be great, 3 mountains(Buttermilk doesn't count imho), lots of BC, but the whole cost of lodging/drinks etc is pretty steep and I only have so much floor space to offer up to crash on, so I am really open to anywhere.

[The AD]

It's hard to imagine anywhere being better in terms of convenience than LCC/BCC. Also I hear the snow and terrain are o.k. Since it's been done, though, I'd put my vote in for SW Colorado. Probably Telluride as the epicenter.

[backpack]

Asssspen. Heh.

Pizza! French Fry!

Anyway, yea... maybe figure out dates, since I don't want to put too much input in if I know I can't go.

I vote for Friday, March 9 thru Sunday, March 18 as the primary week/10 days.

Oh, and just because the SLC/Ogden area has been done, doesn't mean it can't ever be re-visited. Maybe not this year, but someday...

[Snow Dog]

I assumed Colorado. Anchor one weekend in Aspen and the other weekend elsewhere -- Colorado's a big place and I don't want to miss any of it.

[BushwackerinPA]

since its seems like yuor guys arent coming to SLC area again...Colorado would be sweet. ITs close enough drive for me and as long its cheap enough or someone can lend floor space ill be there.

[Woodsy]

JONG FYI:
there has been a "mini summit" in UT every year since the first summit there in 2002
buster forgot interior BC

[The Dad]

Hey NOW! No need to get snarky!!! Midwest definitely needs a mini this winter.
Yer right.

Formal proposal: Hidden Valley, Missouri.

[BushwackerinPA]

Yeah I know I just joined the board before last winter so Inever got a chance to come to one, in fact woodsy I have skied a couple runs with you at the bird...I 'm Josh the younger guy on Gotamas(or sugar daddies) and a silver giro nine. I think you had R-ex on? Was skiing with endless....

Yeah obvisoually if I am off from work I will go to any maggot meeting in the SLC area ,but will try to get off for the main one;).

[Mtn Man]

Half at the CO Front range(close to Denver, fly and ski same day), Half in Eagle CO or Crusty Butt arena. I could roll with that. According to TRs, there's a couple places for backcountry frolicing :fm:

B)

[Mtn Man]

Official Summits so far:
SLC
Interior BC
Tahoe
JH & Ghee
Whistler/PNW
???

B)

[El Chupacabra]

Colorado seems the natural choice. Given enough lead time, I could actually make it this year...

I think Southwest Airlines now flies to Denver, so there's an option for cheap tickets too.

Other option: Mammoth? Site of many minis and mini-minis... still never skied there myself.

[robokill1981]

I'd suggest doing CO based on the little one. If it's an El Nino year then go south to Telluride, CB, and Silverton. If it's not an El Nino year then the resorts and BC between Steamboat, Winter Park, Summit, Vail and Aspen will deliver.

[splat]

how about a long 2 stager like this year, only insteead of Skiattle->whistelr we do Front Range/Summit-> sw colorado via CB & ASpen

I would vote a return to SLC. The two-stager really split up the people and actvities this past year. SLC or Tahoe provides such great hubs where people can coagulate at night without having to pick up and move. Plus - the snow.

[fiddler]

Yer right.

Formal proposal: Hidden Valley, Missouri.

Don't forget Cloudmont, Alabama, it would be an experience no one could forget.:biggrin:

[Yossarian]

Aspen really would be a hell of a place to do it. As has been said, if housing and ticket costs can be mitigated, it's nearly unbeatable when there's good snow.

If you centered on Aspen, but then did the starting couple days and ending couple days in the Front Rage, people could fly in to Denver, work their way in to Aspen/central CO, then work back out again. Those who wanted to hit SW CO could do it at the end of the week in order to hit Silverton when it is open, and do a one-way Front Rage -> Central -> SW trip.

So, something like:

Sat: A-Basin
Sun: Breck
Monday: Vail
Tuesday: Snowmass
Wednesday: Highlands

Circuit 1:
Thursday: Ajax/is there still a cat ski option? Forget..
Friday: Highlands (yes, twice, absolutely! Friday good for the bumpers too)
Sat: Copper (or whatever)
Sun: Loveland

Circuit 2:
Thursday: Silverton
Friday: Silverton
Saturday: Durango/Cat ski
Sunday: Telluride

Or you know, something of that general nature...

It does involve some moving around, which means more upfront organization, but less than you might think.

You need one place in Dillon/Frisco for the first 3 days, then one place in Aspen for the next 4 days, then back to the same place in Dillon/Frisco for the last 3 days,

OR, for the one way trip, one place in Dillon/Frisco for the first 3 days, then one place in Aspen for the next 2 days (same place where the round trippers are), a place in Silverton for the next 3 days, and a finish through Telluride and then to your exit (Durango, SLC, whatever)

[Buzzworthy]

I would vote a return to SLC. Plus - the snow.


Plus I personally will not be organizing a Utah Mini Summit this year. If anyone else wants to step up, please go right ahead. I missed last years as I was away on business. That is how things are rolling lately.


So a REAL summit in SLC revisted would be cool.


CO is my second choice, but I have yet to hit a real Summit. CO would be doable for me.

[Conundrum]

Montana or CB

I'm going to make it this time.

[The AD]

Thursday: Ajax/is there still a cat ski option? Forget..

Yes, there is, and like everything else in Aspen it's expensive.

[Woodsy]

Aspen really would be a hell of a place to do it. As has been said, if housing and ticket costs can be mitigated, it's nearly unbeatable when there's good snow.

If you centered on Aspen, but then did the starting couple days and ending couple days in the Front Rage, people could fly in to Denver, work their way in to Aspen/central CO, then work back out again. Those who wanted to hit SW CO could do it at the end of the week in order to hit Silverton when it is open, and do a one-way Front Rage -> Central -> SW trip.

So, something like (resort/backcountry option):

Sat: A-Basin/Beavers
Sun: Breck/10 Mile
Monday: Vail/Vail Pass
Tuesday: Snowmass/that one area behind Snowmass, forget the name
Wednesday: Highlands/that one peak beyond Highlands,forget the name

Circuit 1:
Thursday: Ajax/is there still a cat ski option? Forget..
Friday: Highlands (yes, twice, absolutely! Friday good for the bumpers too)
Sat: Copper (or whatever)
Sun: Loveland/Loveland or Berthoud Pass

Circuit 2:
Thursday: Silverton/Red Mountain Pass
Friday: Silverton/Molas Pass
Saturday: Durango/Cat ski
Sunday: Telluride/Telluride backside

Or you know, something of that general nature...
I would like to take this opportunity to thank Cleetus for organizing this Colorado Summit......:yourock: ;)
and splat, UT will get done mini like every year and I fully enjoyed my small summit experience in WA.
Realistically, I and other working mags (herafter refered to as "suckers") cant really do the 10 day extravaganza these things become. I was only able to do the JH and PNW summits cuz I could get in and out in 3 days.
Suckers can join up with the summit where their schedules allow.
Also we are ALOT bigger than we were in 02, a centralized summit would be overwhelming numbers wise.
we all know that in skiing big groups can get wholly unmanageble (or maybe everyone just loses me on purpose)
I think a CO summit is long overdue, even if I am not allowed in ASpen and am not a fan of some of the bigger resorts there.
We have mags on the ground in Denver, summit and durango, Roaring Fork Valley, etc.

[uglymoney]

This formula would work for SW Colorado out of DIA, or for people driving in from points east. I don't think you've really tasted Colorado till you've done the southern circuit.

Sat/Arrive - Monarch or A-Basin
Sunday - Crested Butte
Monday - Crested Butte
Tues-Wed Telluride
Thursday Silverton/Durango/T-Ride
Friday Silverton/Durango/T-Ride
Saturday/Sunday Silveron/Vail/Copper/A-Basin/Breck

[bad_roo]

Crested Butt.

[robokill1981]

Start in Summit County for a few days, then head to CB for mid-week fun, and finish the trip with a weekend in Silverton/T-ride. That trip would be easy and affordable since no driving section would be over 3 hours and cheap lodging can be found in all places besides Telluride.

As you head south you might find worsening snow conditions but since you're heading to Silverton/Red Mtn Pass it probably won't be an issue.

[FrankZappa]

I'd suggest doing CO based on the little one. If it's an El Nino year then go south to Telluride, CB, and Silverton. If it's not an El Nino year then the resorts and BC between Steamboat, Winter Park, Summit, Vail and Aspen will deliver.
Good point. But by March, chances are pretty good all over.

There may be some multi mountain deals out there - Monarch has teamed up with CB & silverton (adding comps) for next year if you buy a season pass...

I definately think S-ton should be in there somewhere. & that late should be "unguided".

[BushwackerinPA]

Utah First choice for me umm cause that where I will be so I am kinda of biased, Colorado is the next easiest access for me I think it was like 7 hours to Vail for me from SLC.

Why doesnt someone start a poll?

[Grange]

I'll vote for CO.

[steve]

I'd love to do CO.

-steve

[teledave]

CO sounds like a great idea, they are due. I won't be there though. :confused: I'm looking at a long weekend in SLC right after the first of the year and a weeklong Tour De Montana in mid-March. Still, I'll be looking up the regulars in both places so it doesn't matter.

[Buster Highmen]

I definately think S-ton should be in there somewhere. & that late should be "unguided".
Silverton won't be unguided until April 5. But, and I am executing the royal presumption here, I suspect that Aaron would be willing to work some deals for us.

[13]

RFV & San Juans -- I have family in Basalt.

[FrankZappa]

Silverton won't be unguided until April 5. But, and I am executing the royal presumption here, I suspect that Aaron would be willing to work some deals for us.
Oops. I was thinkin' it was just Jan-Feb for some reason. Oh well, there's unlimited unguided all around - you just have to earn it.

[Buster Highmen]

By the Order of Curmudgeons Without Boarders, the Consortium of Gentlemen and various other occult and obscure organizations, I hereby nominate that thrutchmeister, that lost Osmond, that mistaken for Brady, that purveyor of all that is noble and good in Maggotdom,

>>>> Yossarian

As the Annointed, Disjointed, Wholly Appointed Czar of Summit 2007.

(Note that I will be free most of March and if the snow's good, you'll know where I'll be).
(credit to jibij for the Brady omission).

[FrankZappa]

seconded

[The AD]

cheap lodging can be found in all places besides Telluride.

I'll ask Oprah if we can use her place. Problem solved.

[jibij]

I hereby nominate that thrutchmeister, that lost Brady, that purveyor of all that is noble and good in Maggotdom,

>>>> Yossarian

As the Annointed, Disjointed, Wholly Appointed Czar of Summit 2007.


Fixed, and thirded (although I suspect he has no time).

I might actually get to attend a big summit. woohooo

[Buster Highmen]

I'll ask Oprah if we can use her place. Problem solved.
She sold it a while ago.

[leroy jenkins]

Damn I'm liking how this is going, lotsa suggestions for colorado, and a few for montucky, so I might actually be able to go to a summit. Since I'm poor and have to go to school, anywhere else pretty much rules it out for me.

I'll agree with all the votes for colorado, and add that I could probably hook up a couple mags with free day tickets, and a few more with discounted tickets. The best thing abut CO for a summit, seams to be the fact that it is pretty centrally located between UT, WY, and whatever midwest mags might make the trip. Pretty easy access for all.

Bozeman would also be an awesome place for a summit. Not quite as easy access, but a few awesome resorts, if the snows good, fun nightlife, and hasn't seen a summit, or mini yet that i know of.

[MOHSHSIHd]

after looking at the thread I think we can safely say it will be in CO....


Wont be able to do any of the weekday jaunts unfortunately.....

[Yossarian]

I might be able to help organize in CO, but I'm not 100% sure yet that I can commit. I'll think about it. People should know in advance that if I do, it also doesn't guarantee my attendence! Like woodsy, I don't like big crowds (e.g. more than about 4 people, ha), at least on the hill.

That said, after a little more thought, my guess is that CB would be more affordable than Aspen as the mid-week central CO area of choice. However, it is also further from Denver. But then, that's the whole point of putting central CO in the middle of the loop - so that the weekend people and working "suckers" can get to the summit wherever it may be at the bookends.

I dunno, I'll chew on it a bit. No promises from this corner on leading the charge...yet.

First and foremost, is CO really the choice? Lots of input from the same people in this thread...perhaps we need to get more input from the rest... Bozeman would be cool too - you've got Bridger, Big Sky, and Moonlight all there, and a maggot day at Turner wouldn't be totally farfetched...

CB and Aspen do also both suffer from no-snow stretches...the old "donut" effect... Something to think about.

[Buzzworthy]

Sucker here.

CO would be cool. I have only been to Breck, Keystone, Copper and Vail. Love to see more.

But with Sucker status, this would be a long weekend trip, front or back end.

Woodsy, they will lose me first, on purpose. So if you get lost too, we can meet for a meeting and go powder hunting. :biggrin:

How is Silverton on a snowboard? I know there is lots of hiking, sorry, Silverton noob. I have an AT ski setup, but I go uphill better than I go downhill on them 2 planks.

Thank you for taking my mind away to the gates of powder, at least for a moment.

I am so far ahead of myself writing this right now anyway.

[Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo]

If Colorado is the place and people pull through Aspen, I can get us a discounted Hut trip if anyone is interested. If people are only in Aspen for a few days they may want to stick to the resorts but if not let me know. I just need to know the dates people are interested in. Also realize that the most people any hut can hold would be 16 people and some hold even less. Just something to consider since next winter has already filled up fast.

[Woodsy]

sorry Yo,
I was kidding, but Buster likes to proclomate.....
and we had a good sized group @ soli, but it didnt last long...

lets give it a week of discussion and then posta poll, that way people who are gone for the weekend, etc can comment.
if you are strongly for and especially from CO or MT spec out the week to 10 days as you think it would work best so those voting have some knowledge to vote with.
I think either option would rock

[divegirl]

I am in for the COLORADO Summit, 2007. :)

I believe CO was second place to Whistler last year, so it's only proper that it be the location of the summit this year!

My calendar is wiiiiiide open, so as soon as someone picks a date, let me know!! :D

Yoss - good circut of events. This year, I'm bringing my backcountry gear. And my downhill gear. Hopefully we'll drive out there - just makes things easier. Can't wait to ski with SheRa again. :)

[FrankZappa]

In case anybody is wondering about where and/or what sucks 'round here...
14326
and
Colorado Ski Country USA Premier Resorts and Contact Information
Arapahoe Basin * 888-arapaho http://www.arapahoebasin.com
Aspen Highlands * 800-525-6200 http://www.aspensnowmass.com
Aspen Mountain * 800-525-6200 http://www.aspensnowmass.com
Beaver Creek * 800-404-3535 http://www.beavercreek.com
Breckenridge * 800-404-3535 http://www.breckenridge.com
Buttermilk * 970-925-1220 http://www.aspensnowmass.com
Copper Mountain * 800-458-8386 http://www.coppercolorado.com
Crested Butte 877-326-1471 http://www.skicb.com
Durango (Purgatory) * 970-247-9000 http://www.durangomountainresort.com
Eldora * 303-440-8700 http://www.eldora.com
Howelsen 970-879-8499 http://www.steamboatsprings.net/recreation/howelsen_hill/ski_index.htm
Keystone * 970-496-4fun http://www.keystone.snow.com
Loveland * 303-571-5580 http://www.skiloveland.com
Monarch Mountain * (888)996-7669 http://www.skimonarch.com
Powderhorn * 970-268-5700 http://www.powderhorn.com
Ski Cooper 719-486-3684 http://www.skicooper.com
Snowmass * 970-925-1220 http://www.aspensnowmass.com
Silverton Mtn. (970)387-5706 http://www.silvertonmountain.com
SolVista 800-754-7458 http://www.solvista.com
Steamboat * 970-879-6111 http://www.steamboat.com
Sunlight 970-945-7491 http://www.sunlightmtn.com
Telluride 970-728-6900 http://www.tellurideskiresort.com
Vail * 970-476-5601 http://www.vail.com
Winter Park/Mary Jane * 970-726-5514 http://www.winterparkresort.com
Wolf Creek Ski Area 970-264-5639 http://www.wolfcreekski.com
* Direct to Lift Access

[P_McPoser]

I am in for the COLORADO Summit, 2007. :)

I believe CO was second place to Whistler last year, so it's only proper that it be the location of the summit this year!

My calendar is wiiiiiide open, so as soon as someone picks a date, let me know!! :D

Yoss - good circut of events. This year, I'm bringing my backcountry gear. And my downhill gear. Hopefully we'll drive out there - just makes things easier. Can't wait to ski with SheRa again. :)

If you drive, I'm down as a gas-sharer or 4wd vehicle provider. :D

[StroupSkier]

I'll be out there for 2 weeks around new years and 3 weeks in feb. I might bring my Subaru and could offer AWD transportation, but I wouldn't be able to make it in March.

[Rontele]

I vote for Colorado, but that is easy because I will be here for the entire month of March on break.

[Buster Highmen]

Like woodsy, I don't like big crowds (e.g. more than about 4 people, ha), at least on the hill..
I'm known for leading "the wave" everywhere I go.

[leroy jenkins]

If this is going down in CO, then march 12-16 would work best, since thats when I will be home on spring break. If its in montucky, then pretty much any week but that would work. If its anywhere else, I probably won't be going.

[adam]

Like always, the loveland crew will be able to hook everyone up with a substantial amount of comp tickets.

[SafteySquad]

Another vote for CB. At the Nuggets season opener they give out free vouchers for lift tickets for CB. Last year I got about 20 vouchers, so if enough mags go to the game we could probably get enough tickets for most everybody.

[funkendrenchman]

One vote for Aspen... as I will probably be there.

Pros:
-central location
-great terrain, in bounds and out
-not crowded
-good nightlife
-might be cool to correspond the dates with the Snowmass Freeride Series finals

Cons:
- Expensive (renting a few condos might make it a bit cheaper)
- dry periods, but hell Tahoe had one during the Summit
- 3.5 hours from DIA

Arapahoe Basin is okay, but only for a day or two. Summit County has weak terrain. Vail is crowded and flat unless you ski the backcountry. Crested Butte is kind of far and usually gets the least amount of snow.

[BushwackerinPA]

Dimple Dell Rd
Sandy, UT 84092-4923, US Revise | New Directions
End

Aspen, CO US Revise | New Directions

Total Est. Time: 6 hours, 56 minutes

Total Est. Distance: 399.04 miles


Sandy, UT US Revise | New Directions
End

Bozeman, MT US Revise | New Directions

Total Est. Time: 6 hours, 51 minutes

Total Est. Distance: 421.73 miles


I will be able to make either for at least 2 days, probably more. For the Utards the drive is the same....... between the 2 tops picks so far.

[The AD]

3.5 hours from DIA

True, but there are quite a few flights into ASE. Yeah, obviously it's more expensive than Denver typically. Flying into Eagle is another option.

[truth]

I'll vote for CO as well. It's time.

[Danno]

Also realize that the most people any hut can hold would be 16 people
yeah right. ;)

[Below Zero]

Yeah, Aspen might be a better choice for central location. I'll switch my vote.

[Snow Dog]

I believe CO was second place to Whistler last year, so it's only proper that it be the location of the summit this year!
I thought Whistler was second place to Jackson Hole two years ago.

[Gebster]

I am a lazy unoriginal jong that does not want to travel very far....so my vote is for Mammoth Mountain

[basom]

i vote for vebier or engleberg or something else.

[divegirl]

In case anybody is wondering about where and/or what sucks 'round here...
14326
and
Colorado Ski Country USA Premier Resorts and Contact Information
Arapahoe Basin * 888-arapaho http://www.arapahoebasin.com
Aspen Highlands * 800-525-6200 http://www.aspensnowmass.com
Aspen Mountain * 800-525-6200 http://www.aspensnowmass.com
Beaver Creek * 800-404-3535 http://www.beavercreek.com
Breckenridge * 800-404-3535 http://www.breckenridge.com
Buttermilk * 970-925-1220 http://www.aspensnowmass.com
Copper Mountain * 800-458-8386 http://www.coppercolorado.com
Crested Butte 877-326-1471 http://www.skicb.com
Durango (Purgatory) * 970-247-9000 http://www.durangomountainresort.com
Eldora * 303-440-8700 http://www.eldora.com
Howelsen 970-879-8499 http://www.steamboatsprings.net/recreation/howelsen_hill/ski_index.htm
Keystone * 970-496-4fun http://www.keystone.snow.com
Loveland * 303-571-5580 http://www.skiloveland.com
Monarch Mountain * (888)996-7669 http://www.skimonarch.com
Powderhorn * 970-268-5700 http://www.powderhorn.com
Ski Cooper 719-486-3684 http://www.skicooper.com
Snowmass * 970-925-1220 http://www.aspensnowmass.com
SolVista 800-754-7458 http://www.solvista.com
Steamboat * 970-879-6111 http://www.steamboat.com
Sunlight 970-945-7491 http://www.sunlightmtn.com
Telluride 970-728-6900 http://www.tellurideskiresort.com
Vail * 970-476-5601 http://www.vail.com
Winter Park/Mary Jane * 970-726-5514 http://www.winterparkresort.com
Wolf Creek Ski Area 970-264-5639 http://www.wolfcreekski.com
* Direct to Lift Access

Nice - thanks for doing this Mr. Zappa. Someone needed to quote it!!!

[crashnburn'd]

i vote for vebier or engleberg or something else.

How about Swiss Valley?

[beaterdit]

How 'bout Hesperus?


Seriously though, CO would be cool. I have to give CB the nod though, it's CB! Both Aspen and CB have dry speels, Aspen prolly gets more snow but CB has way better terrian, better character too IMO. And CB will def be chaeper. Plus it's easy striking distance to T-Ride and Silverton. Guided only at that time unfortunately.

CB gets this Jong's vote.

[DownhillRider]

Bring it over here - Banff, or depending on the year Fernie. Montana would be good too, if ya guys have records making it impossible to cross the border :P .

[BushwackerinPA]

Bring it over here - Banff, or depending on the year Fernie. Montana would be good too, if ya guys have records making it impossible to cross the border :P .

ya, I need to pay a ticket in Cali write now, cause supposelly they want to arrest me. Fuckers aren't getting my money for another month though.

Bushwacker says if their going raise revenue they are going to have to work for it.

Aspen, Co get my vote. I will be looking for someplace to stay cheap now....

[skiHOG]

I say no to Aspen. I like the highlands and I like snowmass, but the other mountains I don't like and the town is nothing special to me. I would rather do Vail/Beaver Creek over Aspen for that kind of money.

[Tippster]

Well, since I can't go again this year, have it in Colorado so I won't be kicking myself in the nuts for not making it.




(Since I've been there before.)

[adam]

It would be cool to do alot of places. Lets say Aspen, A Basin, some backcountry on loveland pass/berthoud, and maybe a day at loveland . . .

[Droopy]

Long time no post.... BUT I vote for 2 weeks in europe
www.1800flyeurope.com has great prices on plane tickets

[flatNshallow]

Colorado is so fucking obvious. Let's go off the beaten trail, shall we?

Snowshoe Mountain, West Virginia?
Trollhaugen, Wisconsin?
Crystal Methountain, Michigan?
Perfect North, Indiana?


BOHEMIA?
Imagine the chaos of the Maggot Nation decending on the U.P., eh?:fmicon:

edit: for pnwage

Don't forget Mt. Bohemia with their Extreme Backcountry.

I could almost guarantee I'd be there if we held it in the in that neck of the woods, but since I know what sarcasm is I won't book my hotel room just yet.

[BobMc]

I think we should stick with the status quo, have a bunch of people who will never show up, decide where it is. It has worked every year.

Just to keep up with the Colorado bashing, do we have to act like fuckwads while we're there? As an added summit event we all sit around and make up aliai on our laptops? It'll be neato.

BobMc

;)

[Plakespear]

Can we find out where the Real World house will be in Vail, and fuck the place up in a drunken rampage? I think a bunch of rowdy maggots might fucking shit up would make for great television!

[MOHSHSIHd]

Can we find out where the Real World house will be in Vail, and fuck the place up in a drunken rampage? I think a bunch of rowdy maggots might fucking shit up would make for great television!



they arent doing the show now....


the casting guy who was trying to get me on the show emailed me and said they didnt get enough people to send in apps...


in hindsight im really feeling like I should have went through with it, but MTV is just so trashy that i couldnt lower myself to that shit.....

[skiHOG]

real world vail? why the hell are they doing that, especially since real world denver is happening? exactly what what that area does not need.

[baxter]

I think loveland or abasin would be good, they are cheap with good terrain.

[soul_skier]

lets go someplace different, russia, china, japan.... make things intersting

[MOHSHSIHd]

real world vail? why the hell are they doing that, especially since real world denver is happening? exactly what what that area does not need.


it wasnt going to be real world....it was gonna be called "Vail Valley" and just be basically a season long, "True Life: Im a Ski Bum"

[leroy jenkins]

lets go someplace different, russia, china, japan.... make things intersting

Sure, you wanna buy my plane ticket?

[MOHSHSIHd]

Sure, you wanna buy my plane ticket?


for reals....I know there are tons of rich ass people on this board, but you gotta realize most people who are really into skiing dont have the loot to just up and fly to another continent for 2 weeks.....

most of them are too busy skiing to make enough money to do that unfortunately...

[freshie247]

Decent terrain & fresh powder are my only desires.

[Woodsy]

I say no to Aspen. I like the highlands and I like snowmass, but the other mountains I don't like and the town is nothing special to me. I would rather do Vail/Beaver Creek over Aspen for that kind of money.

can you expand on this please?

[Woodsy]

I think we should stick with the status quo, have a bunch of people who will never show up, decide where it is. It has worked every year.

Just to keep up with the Colorado bashing, do we have to act like fuckwads while we're there? As an added summit event we all sit around and make up aliai on our laptops? It'll be neato.

BobMc

;)
I have to disagree Bob,
the UT summit was well attended by the people who proposed it,.hell Pinner made every damn day from outta state (shit was he in leweesianna then?)
as was interior BC from what I read, and JH from being there.
tahoe seemed to rock (again vicariously) and the WA part of the last summit was off the charts.
also, dont through the whole bathwater of CO out because of one adolescent baby.
it has its moments

edit.
also I am ASS U ME ing that their will be a euro summit and an ECs ummit like there has been the last few years
lets try and flesh out a MT or CO summit here folks, or propose something else we may be missing

[BushwackerinPA]

for reals....I know there are tons of rich ass people on this board, but you gotta realize most people who are really into skiing dont have the loot to just up and fly to another continent for 2 weeks.....

most of them are too busy skiing to make enough money to do that unfortunately...

I fall under that heading of skiing to much to make enough money, wouldnt trade that for everything. I just want to ski someplace else, as I really only have skied alta/bird so far. Either Montana or Colorado would be doable for me. but I think Colorado gets the nod do to easier access for the whole nation. Aspen is 2.5 hours from DIA were as whats the closest airport to bozeman?

Just some random thoughts...

[bklyn]

...whats the closest airport to bozeman?


Psst... there's an aiport there. (http://www.gallatinfield.com/)

Montana would be nice, I'd like to be there with more snow than 04/05.

I'm going to be in Colorado a few times next season, and I'm sure to hook up with the CO maggots again and plan to be at Big Sky next season anyway.

Hopefully we pick a date early enough so that people can plan to come, and we can make some "prudent economic choices" regarding places to stay.

[skiHOG]

can you expand on this please?

I, personally, just didn't like Aspen. Not sure if it was the people or the vibe, but I know that the skiing was nothing special. I could maybe do a day trip to one of the mountains, but not sure if could do multiple days. The town of Aspen has everything any mountian town would have, it's just a little "different" the other places I've been. I feel like I constantly have to watch myself to try and fit in, it doesn't even feel like a real ski town to me. Compare it to Vail/Beaver Creek, a hell of a lot more terrain, the town is much bigger with more than enough crazy stuff to do. It's still expensive, but if we're talking this kind of money that's where I would want to spend it. East Vail and Vail Pass are right there and those are some easy, classic areas to do some BC.

[Below Zero]

^^I disagree. I like Aspen/Snowmass much better than Vail and BC. The terrain is better is Aspen. Yeah, Vail may have more acreage but the quality of terrain in the Aspen area is better.^^

[Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo]

^^I disagree. I like Aspen/Snowmass much better than Vail and BC. The terrain is better is Aspen. Yeah, Vail may have more acreage but the quality of terrain in the Aspen area is better.^^

Seconded. While smaller than the Back Bowls, Highlands Bowl is much better, IMHO. Plus the BC is easily just as good, not to mention the slackcountry from Snowmass and Highlands. And if you know where to go, even during XMAS/New Years, you can still get runs to yourself at Snowmass. But obviously my opinion is somewhat biased.

[cmsummit]

The terrain in Aspen/Snowmass is considerably better than the Vail/BC area and it's less crowded than Vail. Vail/BC does make a more centralized location for other areas though(1.5hrs to Aspen/Snowmass and within an hour to the Summit County areas).

A summit in CO just wouldn't be complete without a trip to the SW part of the state. Def. need to hit up Crested Butte, Silverton, & Telluride.

[skiHOG]

fine, everyone votes against me, doesn't change my mind. i guess i just have had bad experiences with all my visits there. Silverton wouldn't be a bad idea though.

[leroy jenkins]

^^I disagree. I like Aspen/Snowmass much better than Vail and BC. The terrain is better is Aspen. Yeah, Vail may have more acreage but the quality of terrain in the Aspen area is better.^^

Thirded. Aspen Mt even has some awesome terrain. Again and again i ski with people who proclaim that Aspen Mt is only bumps and lame groomers, but after I show them some of its more hidden assetts, they can't shut up about how they never knew it was that awesome.

Also, a word to the Aspen atmosphere: Don't try and fit in with all the uber rich fashionistas, just treat it like a zoo, or a circus. Its actually quite amusing to watch all the furclad, bogner with cowboy hat wearing old farts. Besides, thier trophy wives make good eye candy, and with there was like 50+ maggots raging through the town, I hardly think you'd have to worry about fitting in.

Still, you may just not like it, which is cool.

[cmsummit]

for a side trip, Silverton would be great, but the place is difficult to get to and there is ZERO nightlife. if we were to do a SW CO summit, it might be worth it to fly into Montrose(between CB and Telluride/Silverton).

Aspen/Snowmass gets my vote and there is some serious cougar hunting to be had.

[Squatch]

fine, everyone votes against me, doesn't change my mind. i guess i just have had bad experiences with all my visits there. Silverton wouldn't be a bad idea though.

You must indeed have had a bad experience. The only time I skied there was...get this...the X-games. Even then the skiing was excellent. The whole area is connected by bus, it's way less crowded. Even on the x-games I skied untracked, in-bounds at Ajax until 10:00. Even podunk areas in the midwest are more crowded. Compared to summit county it was unreal.

Granted, it helped that we got over a foot that weekend, but still. Good times had.

[skiHOG]

You must indeed have had a bad experience. The only time I skied there was...get this...the X-games. Even then the skiing was excellent. The whole area is connected by bus, it's way less crowded. Even on the x-games I skied untracked, in-bounds at Ajax until 10:00. Even podunk areas in the midwest are more crowded. Compared to summit county it was unreal.

Granted, it helped that we got over a foot that weekend, but still. Good times had.

well, the snow was average, nothing special. didn't like ajax mountain. the hoards of fake people just really turned me off. the highlands was pretty sweet and i really like snowmass mountain, it has a lot to offer. i'm sure good times can be had there, i was just expressing my feelings about the experiences i've had, when you get a sour taste in your mouth it's not very inviting.

[Shredhead]

well, the snow was average, nothing special. didn't like ajax mountain. the hoards of fake people just really turned me off.

This was your experience on Aspen Mountain, during the X Games?

[Mtn Man]

I'll admit that I wasn't a big fan of Ajax either, just had a bad fake vibe to it. I loved Highlands and Snowmass though and as mentioned, the slackcountry is bountiful around there.

Ajax with a wolf pack of maggots would be pretty entertaining though. For some reason, I see passes being pulled if that formulates....

B)

[TurxSki]

...but you gotta realize most people who are really into skiing dont have the loot to just up and fly to another (part of this) continent for 2 weeks...

AND...it means leaving "snow you know" behind you to head off for, well, possibly not such good conditions. Always difficult (which is why I 've only made it to CB once :redface: )
Might be an expensive gamble, unless socializing/networking are big deals to you ;)

[kush1]

I dont know if it is to late but I think it should go back to SLC this year, Colorado would be cool but there is no central place where you stay every night.
From what I've seen all the other summits other then SLC and Tahoe have had less people attend, I know I couldnt due to having to travel so much between locations which means lotso $$$$

SLC has a cheap airport very very close to the mtns, and you can stay at the same hotel everynight. No days where you ski and then travel a few hours to the next hotel, unload all your gear and then go hang out.

just my 2cents

[skiHOG]

This was your experience on Aspen Mountain, during the X Games?


no, just the last two times i went there. once in january, the other time in march.

[The AD]

the hoards of fake people just really turned me off.

I've skied a grand total of one day at Ajax, but I can't really say I noticed any difference between the skiers there compared to any major resort in the U.S.

[SheRa]

I am in for the COLORADO Summit, 2007. :)

I believe CO was second place to Whistler last year, so it's only proper that it be the location of the summit this year!

My calendar is wiiiiiide open, so as soon as someone picks a date, let me know!! :D

Yoss - good circut of events. This year, I'm bringing my backcountry gear. And my downhill gear. Hopefully we'll drive out there - just makes things easier. Can't wait to ski with SheRa again. :)

OMG, you, me, Tracey - we will have the ALL TIME girl crew. :D

As for having the summit in Colorado, that would be so freaking cool - we would love to show off the goods. Skiing all the Aspen resorts and sidecountry would rule. Basing out of Summit county and skiing everything from Loveland to Beaver Creek would rule. Skiing Silverton would rule. Crested Butte would rule. Shite, you can't go wrong. Just pick a region and stick with that so you're not driving more than an hour or two. And pray for snow. But the cool thing is that when there's less snow, the bc becomes much safer, so it all works out.

If the deal is done anywhere around Summit County, I will help any way I can to organize or whatever. I'll have a lot of discounts to share of course because I work for Vail resorts. But my personal vote would go for the Roaring Fork valley to hit all the Aspen Ski Co areas and lift served BC (off Ajax even, yes?), even Buttermilk for park time. I can see maggots ownerizing the scene there. We bring the party. :D

ps - Kush, you don't know what your saying, mang. I drove a lot more running around Tahoe than here. Give it a shot. It ain't Utah, but I like it.

[yetipolice]

But my personal vote would go for the Roaring Fork valley to hit all the Aspen Ski Co areas and lift served BC (off Ajax even, yes?), even Buttermilk for park time. I can see maggots ownerizing the scene there. We bring the party. :D


Doesn't Aspen do some super cheap unit card, like 4 tickets for $99 or something? I know some of my friends bought it at the Denver Expo. Not sure if it's already been mentioned, but definitely a good deal.

['boat skier]

I think the Roaring Fork Valley is a good idea. I also like the idea of me being able to get there without spending a ton of money. A little selfish I guess, but it would be a lot of fun and it's only 3 hrs. from here.

Summit CO. would be cool too, but you can get big crowds there.

[Buzzworthy]

I dont know if it is to late but I think it should go back to SLC this year, Colorado would be cool but there is no central place where you stay every night.
From what I've seen all the other summits other then SLC and Tahoe have had less people attend, I know I couldnt due to having to travel so much between locations which means lotso $$$$

SLC has a cheap airport very very close to the mtns, and you can stay at the same hotel everynight. No days where you ski and then travel a few hours to the next hotel, unload all your gear and then go hang out.

just my 2cents

Agree with lack of money and central local.

Plus no Utah Mini this year, at least that I am doing. Could not even attend last year.

I guess for me it is hard to leave here, especially if we get a good dumping.

[mnflyfish]

pfft, how about Whitecap, the Porkies or Mt. Ripley?
Hey Ripley would be awesome! Try to arrange the Summit with their winterfest/a good Hockey weekend at Tech! If nothing else a Midwest summit might be in order.

Good Luck,
Jay

[mnflyfish]

After looking through this and reading about the lack of dough being a common theme, how about Montana? Those of us from the midwest could make the drive in a day, and it would be a days drive for most of the west coasters, Utah, Colorado, etc. The only folks that would be out of drive distance would be the East Coasters, and Billings is a cheap airport. That gives a number of Backcountry shots in the Bearthooths, Big Sky, Red Lodge (er- Rock Dodge), etc. And it's a short drive to Jackson. Either Bozeman or Red Lodge would provide cheap hotels, Red Lodge is super cheap! All that and some great fishin for me on an off day or afternoon. (Always looking for a way to take the flyrod out in the winter).

Personally, a trip to Utah or Mammoth is over due, but I'm always up for a trip to Montana, I can hit Red Lodge in 13 hours or less, depending on weather.

Good Luck,
Jay

[RootSkier]

Red Lodge

a) is in the middle of nowhere
2) suffers massive ass raping drought
iii) is hardly closer to the midwest than the front range.
IV) is super isolated

If there is a Summit in MT (it is looking like 2008 is its next best shot), it probably won't be there.

[mnflyfish]

I agree with your take on Red Lodge, I only brought it up based on price and it's location to the Bearthooth Mtns for backcountry. Heck Red Lodge is less expensive than Minnesota ski areas, and ours really suck.

If Montana made the list Bozeman would be the better choice. Closer to the big resorts, a reasonable shot to Jackson, and still reasonable priced lodging. It's only drawback is it's a bit far from a major airport. Not a big deal for me but the folks on the east coast would have trouble.

It's been years since I was in Colorado, so that would be cool for me. I only brought up Montana because there were so many posts regarding price.

Good Luck,
JAy

[leroy jenkins]

I agree with your take on Red Lodge, I only brought it up based on price and it's location to the Bearthooth Mtns for backcountry. Heck Red Lodge is less expensive than Minnesota ski areas, and ours really suck.

If Montana made the list Bozeman would be the better choice. Closer to the big resorts, a reasonable shot to Jackson, and still reasonable priced lodging. It's only drawback is it's a bit far from a major airport. Not a big deal for me but the folks on the east coast would have trouble.

It's been years since I was in Colorado, so that would be cool for me. I only brought up Montana because there were so many posts regarding price.

Good Luck,
JAy

Bozeman is about a ten minute drive from a major airport. Granted, its not an international hub or anything, but you can get flights from denver, or SLC. Seems major enough to me.

[benDover]

not that my opinion is wanted or needed...as someone else said, MT hasen't even had a Mini yet. Let's organize our state first before we invite the masses here.

Bozeman would be the obvious choice with Big Sky/Moonlight close by and ample BC to be had for all. And if we wait long enough maybe Bridger will have some new chairs.

Major hubs for the Gallitan Airport are SLC, DIA, Minneapolis, Seatle, Boise and even a few from LAX now. Everybody else will be having layovers.

My vote for MT is 08'

[mnflyfish]

Bozeman is about a ten minute drive from a major airport. Granted, its not an international hub or anything, but you can get flights from denver, or SLC. Seems major enough to me.

I was thinking about Billings because there are a lot of folks from the east coast, I'm not sure about flights into Bozeman. You're right though there are non-stops from Minneapolis so it would be a no-brainer for a Summit. I'm there in 2008.

Good Luck,
Jay

[MoNtY]

i vote Banff. Great nightlife, 2 of Canadas best resorts, easy access to backcountry

[funkendrenchman]

Doesn't Aspen do some super cheap unit card, like 4 tickets for $99 or something? I know some of my friends bought it at the Denver Expo. Not sure if it's already been mentioned, but definitely a good deal.

You have to be there in person to purchase the pass.

[Yossarian]

You have to be there in person to purchase the pass.

True, but if all the CO peeps motivated to buy a classic pass, and then also chipped in say $40 per to a pool to help defray pass prices, and everyone else bought a 4 of 5 multi-day pass, our average per day per person price could clock in around...

$37.5*25+$60*30 = ~$50 USD per person per day average assuming:

25 Classic Pass holders
30 NON
$70/day average price on a multi-day full price ticket
$110 Classic Pass (is that right?)
$40 subsidy

The higher the ratio of Classic Pass to NON, the lower the average ticket price/ required subsidy would be.

Anyway, forget the details - these are not insurmountable problems. Someone always knows someone who know someone who can help out, so long as we plan far enough in advance. The real questions are WHERE and WHEN. After that it's up to the organizer to do as best s/he can do to keep cost in check, and you do what you can do!

So go vote in the poll if you haven't!

[Yossarian]

Hell, we could rent a bus from Denver and drive everyone up and around CO to save on car costs. That'd be baddass.

[adam]

That would be kick ass.

[Yossarian]

Or better yet, a couple of Short Busses.
Yatzhee!

I was licensed to drive the short bus once. :D

[Woodsy]

busses?
hmm
I realy thought a traveling magion junkshow across the state startiin ing Denver and ending up downsouth wouuld be the waym, but again i am only in for 3-4 days prolly on the western/Southern end.. (although a day @ Mary Jane would be fun, and Abasin, and well, shit.)

As long as you keep me out of ASpen ( 3 strike rule)
there are hostels and cheap hotels and I dont know i think this can be done, cayent it?
how long would a bus to CB take?
I mean we cant leave out CB......
i dunno
dates anyone?

[Yossarian]

Let's settle the WHERE first, then we can do the WHEN based on that WHERE for the best conditions and lowest cost?

Or should be settle the WHEN first, then choose the WHERE based on the when?

Geez, this stuff is tough.

[Below Zero]

Well, it looks like CO is going to win the poll and it better because it's our time! :)

So we just need to decide on a location in CO. The when part I think can come later. I'm think sometime in late March.

Either way, it's going to be hard to hit all the good resorts in CO since they are all spread out. I love the bus idea, but will the idea work? I would say if we just pick and area and stick with it, we will have a great time.

Aspen Area Mountains
Telluride / Silverton
Vail / Summit County

CB would be a great mountain to stay at, but it is just so isolated from other resorts.

We need to make a pro and cons list of each "area"

[Buster Highmen]

And here I was counting on Woodsy showing me Ahhhhspen. Dang.

[Yossarian]

What about later? We can sometimes get killer conditions in March and April; the backcountry is slightly safer (which isn't saying much, unfortunately); and ticket prices do come down eventually. We should look and see when the "late season" begins at many places. Spring break is both a pain and a convenience - on the one hand, places get mobbed during break, meaning more crowds, more tracks, less snow. On the other hand, a lot of people that might want to come might only be able to come during their spring break. Plus, it gets mobbed with lots of people, and therefore parties are raging!

So, I wonder if a later-than-usual summit might make sense. Like, last week of March kind of thing. Or, dare I say it, first week of April? Silverton goes into their late season sometime in April, ticket prices drop somewhere around there, rooms empty out, things would be much cheaper. And we'd have a pretty good chance of either late season storms or sunny skies and corn...

Hmmm....

[leroy jenkins]

places get mobbed during break, meaning more crowds, more tracks, less snow. On the other hand, a lot of people that might want to come might only be able to come during their spring break.

Two things, one, a lot of the spring break crowd seems to party more than they ski, and two, I definitly fall into the category that could only attend if it was during my spring break (March 12-16), but that is just my preference, for selfish reasons.

Oh, and the bus/short busses idea is fucking genious.

[SheRa]

I love the last week of March/first week of April idea. Cheap and killer conditions.

[Woodsy]

Early April is a great idea,prices go down crowds ease and oonly, well people like us, know about it.
Alot of "group pricing" goes into effect April 1 aswell from my 2 horrrid years of group ski shows from Austin to Chi town I know this
GeiieUs

[Nohillsnearby]

I love the last week of March/first week of April idea. Cheap and killer conditions.

This would guarantee a no show by the NoHills. We have to visit MIL in FL for Spring BReak:rolleyes:

[Shredhead]

I think if we doi run through the Raoring Fork Valley avoid the x-games and

I think X games would be a perfect time to swing thru Aspen. If you haven't been, it's an amazing event. Ticket sales are low, tons of FREE top notch entertainment, tons of FREE swag. Powder magazines, along with half the industry, have FREE parties. Even the under age maggots could enjoy because as long as you have your booze in a cup, the cops leave you alone.
Only down side is town fills up, so you need a reservation.

April is also a good time. Just be aware that Highlands usually closes that first weekend and you have to do at least a day there.

[Squatch]

X-games = floorspace only. So if you're cool with that, then it's a great time to be there. Plus the bus system there is top notch, so staying in carbondale or even glenwood springs is easily doable.

[Woodsy]

April is also a good time. Just be aware that Highlands usually closes that first weekend and you have to do at least a day there.
closing day at highlands is usally a righteous party too
that would be a PLUS

[Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo]

This year Highlands closed on the 7th/8th and it was a sweet party. Even got new snow the night before for a powder day closing.

[Grange]

I like the idea of a "late season" summit. I may be however at Big Sky the first week in April.

[Plakespear]

Late season: either I will have saved up enough cash to go, or I will have blown all of it skiing the rest of the season.

[Buster Highmen]

Damn. Here I'd been planning a half March half April CO stint anyway. Fockers.

[Woodsy]

yow
may I be your silverton Ski caddy sir?
I'll bring the scotch

[skiHOG]

Anywhere in CO is fine with me. I think the first part of April would be a really good time b/c prices will drop for those without passes, most crowds have disappeared, the snow is at its deepest, and big snowfalls still occur.

[P_McPoser]

OMG, you, me, Tracey - we will have the ALL TIME girl crew. :D


I dunno, the mammoth 06 mini girl crew was pretty hard to live up to. (Tracy, Monique, Divegirl, Girlski, and Kellie). They pretty much fuggin' killed it! :wink:

[P_McPoser]

Oh, and to register my vote, M O N T A N A .
That way I can get an interview and make the trip free. :FIREdevil

[GheePup]

I dunno, the mammoth 06 mini girl crew was pretty hard to live up to. (Tracy, Monique, Divegirl, Girlski, and Kellie). They pretty much fuggin' killed it! :wink:

Ummm...You forgot YC, Mrs. TWINS, EZ and...ummm...another one or two at least. Sorry about forgeting those other ladies names.

Go to the Montucky mini that I am sure will happen and try to make it to Colo too McP.

[SheRa]

I dunno, the mammoth 06 mini girl crew was pretty hard to live up to. (Tracy, Monique, Divegirl, Girlski, and Kellie). They pretty much fuggin' killed it! :wink:

:rolleyes:

Well then I guess we should all just hang up our skis and go home. Since it's all been done already.

Truly, I'd love to ski with all those girls. Hope I get a chance.

[TWINS]

Wherever its at it sounds like fun.Good excuse for a road trip.Mags and Maggettes will be shredding.

[powder11]

my vote goes to Aspen. I want to cash in the free ticket and ski with Dav chip.

[Woodsy]

Ok so now all we have to do is narrow it down from a few of scores of resorts sometime in Early 2007
If noone else speaks up It seems i will be enjoying Southwestern CO with Buster and Yoss in April.....

[Buster Highmen]

If noone else speaks up It seems i will be enjoying Southwestern CO with Buster and Yoss in April.....
Bruichladdich, Glenrothes and Spring Bank, puhleeez.

I'll update you and the dates before Thanksgiving.

[The AD]

my vote goes to Aspen. I want to cash in the free ticket and ski with Dav chip.

Yeah, have we decided on a date yet for the "ski Pyramid Peak with iskibc and Dav day?"

[FrankZappa]

If noone else speaks up It seems i will be enjoying Southwestern CO with Buster and Yoss in April.....
Hey, I want in on at least a day or two of this. Sounds cool.

[Buster Highmen]

Hey, I want in on at least a day or two of this. Sounds cool.
There's a good likelihood that will happen.

[Woodsy]

No llores mi querida

Dios nos vigila

Soon the horse will take us to Durango

Agarrame mi vida

Soon the desert will be gone

Soon you will be dancing the fandango.

[Buster Highmen]

No llores mi querida

Dios nos vigila

Soon the horse will take us to Durango

Agarrame mi vida

Soon the desert will be gone

Soon you will be dancing the fandango.
Will there be a knife fight? Will a sad, brutal general save that rare orchid? An expiring aristocrat who walls himself in an insideout labyrinth? Will an impoverished invalid boy be unable to grasp what a dog is, even though he can describe with vivid detail the color, names and teeth of every dog he's ever seen?

Borges?

[Woodsy]

Will there be a knife fight? Will a sad, brutal general save that rare orchid? An expiring aristocrat who walls himself in an insideout labyrinth? Will an impoverished invalid boy be unable to grasp what a dog is, even though he can describe with vivid detail the color, names and teeth of every dog he's ever seen?

Borges?
well sir, that prolly depends on how much scotch we drink a nd how much mescaline there still is in that fair state.
And that was Robert Allen Zimmerman 's approximation of Sr. Borges

[Franz Klammer]

I love the last week of March/first week of April idea. Cheap and killer conditions.
I am in for that as well. I have spring break and no teaching obligations around that date.

[Stoysluttie1]

why vote now? What if the chosen one has a shitty snow year?

[Buster Highmen]

why vote now? What if the chosen one has a shitty snow year?
In the absence of the real thing, we live on our dreams. We grasp at the flimsy films of imagination, desire, anticipation and angst. We plan, orchestrate, buy, accoutrecise all in place of being there, where our lust lies.

But you're probably right. For all the yearning maws of rapture, it's all just virtual wanking.

[yogachik]

Since the Mammoth Mini gets more people (or, as many) than the actual Summit, why not make Mammoth this year's Summit locale? Early April is primo Mammoth time.

It's not the easiest mountain to get to, but we can work that out. We do it every year at the Summit, with over 50 maggot-attendees each year...

[FNG]

How about Swiss Valley?

no.

I'd like to finally make it out to one of these, but we'll see how the financials are when the time comes.

[Buzzworthy]

If noone else speaks up It seems i will be enjoying Southwestern CO with Buster and Yoss in April.....

And a good probablity of Snowboarding Buzz.

To be continued.........

[Below Zero]

And a good probablity of Snowboarding Buzz.

To be continued.........

Are you guys going to do your own thing?

So Colorado is the winner, correct? We haven't decided on SW Colorado have we? We still need to pic a resort/town/area.

[skiHOG]

Are you guys going to do your own thing?

So Colorado is the winner, correct? We haven't decided on SW Colorado have we? We still need to pic a resort/town/area.

I think colorado is the winner, but no decision on the area yet. I would think the options would be:

SW Colorado - Silverton, Durango, Telluride
Aspen - all that the Roaring Fork Valley has to offer
Summit County/Vail - 4 resorts in Summit and then Vail and BC just over the pass.

I think those are the most logical options. Hell, I hear Echo Mountain is gonna be going off this year.

[divegirl]

Ok people, I'm here to bring you back down to earth. I'm a jong CO skier, because I've never skied there, but what the fuck is up with all this late-season-summit talk? Wouldn't you all want to ski the blower right around February? Why not an early February summit?

And as for Mammoth being this year's summit, that's great, but you know we're going to have a Mammoth mini that will be not-so-mini like the last few years and it's going to rock. Besides, CO hasn't seen the love yet in terms of summits. :)

I like what someone else mentioned - was it stoy? - we should choose the exact dates later, like late December or something. If CO is having a good year, then we should go when the most snow hits. And start at Silverton. If you have problems getting time off, just tell your boss you'll be leaving to ski in CO sometime between January and April, that should do it. ;)

Just my opinion. I'll be in CO this year regardless, only because my brother is moving to fucking Texas and CO is where he'll be boarding. But I'd rather ski with maggots as well, so, there you go.

[Yossarian]

DG,

respectfully, as a self professed jong CO skier, I don't think you quite understand how bad it can be at the resorts at the wrong time in CO. So, having it in CO IS intimately tied to "Where and When?" In fact, I'd go to UT or CA or MT or WY or ID or anywhere in the west before I'd go to the CO front range or summit county during any holiday week or weekend, but CO has a lot to offer when the place isn't mobbed and the snow is good.

Further, we just can't reasonably call the dates out as they get closer if we want to give people a chance to plan ahead, request vacation, book flights, and allow the organizer(s) to get group discounts and set up extras.

Shockingly, people will actually have to commit to something here.

Anyway, if people want more wintery conditions, for CO the safer bet is probably February then. March is good, but is dominated by Spring Breakers. Dec and Jan can be hit and miss. But I should remind you that "blower" in CO comes in 6" increments in a *good* storm, and when it's 6% content, 6" of blower is really just dust on crust. Remember, this is a different beast than CA snow.

For the combination of affordability, good weather, long days, good coverage, avoiding crowds, etc, early April is not a bad bet.

That's my $.03, for whatever it's worth.

[divegirl]

Thanks Yoss,

I understand on the planning ahead part, I'm all for it, but thought Stoy had a good suggestion. Planning ahead is better, yes.

As for CO snow, I have no idea what I'm talking about so I have to agree with you. :D But for some reason I thought February would be our best bet...I stand corrected.

Frankly I just want to ski the CO (or Utah?) powder this winter. However I'd rather ski it with maggots who can show me around. But if you say there will be blower (so to speak) in April, then I'm all for it.

Or maybe I'll just attend the Utah mini.....

[Yossarian]

Will there be blower in April? Fuck if I know. Does it still snow at all in April? Yes.

Crinkle, in the deep on a late season day at Mary Jane.
http://www.tetongravity.com/usergalleries/albums/userpics/Best%20of%2004-05%2021.JPG

With any luck, if it's not snowing, it's at least really nice out, and one would get good corn turns and have good hanging out weather.

Want winter pow? Yeah, February is better. But in February, UT is the safer bet. So people have to decide.

When you get right down to it, is it the location or the dates that really matter?

[Yossarian]

Interestingly, despite our focus on location, it could be the dates that really matter to people. In which case, what we ought to be doing is maximizing the number of attendees based on dates, and then choosing amongst the best options for those dates.

Just a thought.

[Squatch]

Interestingly, despite our focus on location, it could be the dates that really matter to people. In which case, what we ought to be doing is maximizing the number of attendees based on dates, and then choosing amongst the best options for those dates.

Just a thought.

I think this is actually the superior approach.

[skiHOG]

Interestingly, despite our focus on location, it could be the dates that really matter to people. In which case, what we ought to be doing is maximizing the number of attendees based on dates, and then choosing amongst the best options for those dates.

Just a thought.


i second this approach.

[StroupSkier]

DG,

respectfully, as a self professed jong CO skier, I don't think you quite understand how bad it can be at the resorts at the wrong time in CO. So, having it in CO IS intimately tied to "Where and When?" In fact, I'd go to UT or CA or MT or WY or ID or anywhere in the west before I'd go to the CO front range or summit county during any holiday week or weekend, but CO has a lot to offer when the place isn't mobbed and the snow is good.


If the vote is to go to SW colorado though, this is not a problem. I've skied @ Telluride, Snowmass and Crested Butte on HOliday weekends and they were nto crowded at all.

Wasn't this the original reason for choosing SW CO as opposed to a front range location?

[FrankZappa]

Ok people, I'm here to bring you back down to earth. I'm a jong CO skier, because I've never skied there, but what the fuck is up with all this late-season-summit talk? Wouldn't you all want to ski the blower right around February? Why not an early February summit?

And as for Mammoth being this year's summit, that's great, but you know we're going to have a Mammoth mini that will be not-so-mini like the last few years and it's going to rock. Besides, CO hasn't seen the love yet in terms of summits. :)

I like what someone else mentioned - was it stoy? - we should choose the exact dates later, like late December or something. If CO is having a good year, then we should go when the most snow hits. And start at Silverton. If you have problems getting time off, just tell your boss you'll be leaving to ski in CO sometime between January and April, that should do it. ;)

Just my opinion. I'll be in CO this year regardless, only because my brother is moving to fucking Texas and CO is where he'll be boarding. But I'd rather ski with maggots as well, so, there you go.



DG,

respectfully, as a self professed jong CO skier, I don't think you quite understand how bad it can be at the resorts at the wrong time in CO. So, having it in CO IS intimately tied to "Where and When?" In fact, I'd go to UT or CA or MT or WY or ID or anywhere in the west before I'd go to the CO front range or summit county during any holiday week or weekend, but CO has a lot to offer when the place isn't mobbed and the snow is good.

Further, we just can't reasonably call the dates out as they get closer if we want to give people a chance to plan ahead, request vacation, book flights, and allow the organizer(s) to get group discounts and set up extras.

Shockingly, people will actually have to commit to something here.

Anyway, if people want more wintery conditions, for CO the safer bet is probably February then. March is good, but is dominated by Spring Breakers. Dec and Jan can be hit and miss. But I should remind you that "blower" in CO comes in 6" increments in a *good* storm, and when it's 6% content, 6" of blower is really just dust on crust. Remember, this is a different beast than CA snow.

For the combination of affordability, good weather, long days, good coverage, avoiding crowds, etc, early April is not a bad bet.

That's my $.03, for whatever it's worth.

Both good points covered. Weather is weather - you just don't know what it'll do. Climates in the 90's in Colo. brought us a ton of snow late season. Last year was like the late 80's when we had big dumps early.
The bases at the front range/spring break areas will be slipped to death along with the warmer temps taking their respective tolls during March.
The first big influx comes on Presidents day weekend (Feb 19th). Then I think the crowds will back off a little 'til around the first weekend in March (3rd) and get maxed the mid part of March.
While Colo. typically gets the biggest dumps in Mar/Apr they can be heavier & tend to settle out faster with the increased temps. Generally a decent base is gonna be here by the first of the year - if not then it's a drought. Typiaclly most areas have around a 50" base at the first of the year. And, there is almost always a mid season dry spell late Dec into Jan.
Some of the best storms (multi-day)/conditions I've skied/toured in over all my years here have been mid Feb to mid Mar. I don't prefer the quality of the weather, I'm more drawn to the condition of the snow.
In Colorado, it's never really been about quantity, more about quality I'd say. I agree with pushing the dates up a bit. - Beat the spring break rush.

I propose dates of Feb 24th thru Mar 4th.

[Yossarian]

So, if it's to be CO, I hear either:

Last Week of February, or
First Week of April
And:
Central CO, and/or
SW CO

Okay...how do we move forward here? A more specific poll with these options? Or perhaps the date question comes first now?
Last week Feb vs. First week Apr? Is that the right question to be asking at this point?

Something like: "If a few people put together some good deals and fun activities on behalf of the TGR Forums, which is more likely for you to be able to make:
-The last week of Feb in CO
-The first week of Apr in CO
-I cannot make either of those two weeks
-I do not want to go to CO during either of those two weeks"

Good poll?

[Below Zero]

Yes, I think we need to have a poll each for the date and the place.

Just to keep in mind, and correct me if I am wrong, but overall wouldn't the Aspen area be cheaper if we can score bunch of (4) packs for people? Lodging would be more expensive though.

If we do SW CO, what are we thinking as the home base? Telluride?

[Yossarian]

I'm wondering why we wouldn't do both Central and SW CO.

One half week (Sat-Wed) in one, and one half week (Thur-Sun) in the other.

Given that Silverton is only open Thur-Sun, the logical thing to do would be to do Central CO the first half, and SW CO the second half. Thoughts? Anyone?

9 days (Sat, Sun, Mon, Tue, Wed, Thur, Fri, Sat, Sun) in any one area is a lot.

I guess I'm proposing a FRONT RANGE/SUMMIT/VAIL or VAIL/ASPEN first half, and a SILVERTON/DURANGO/TELLURIDE second half?
If that sounds exciting for enough people, it really just boils down to Which Week? and FRONT RANGE/SUMMIT/VAIL vs. VAIL/ASPEN? for the first half.

Yes? No?

[FrankZappa]

So, if it's to be CO, I hear either:

Last Week of February, or
First Week of April
And:
Central CO, and/or
SW CO

Okay...how do we move forward here? A more specific poll with these options? Or perhaps the date question comes first now?
Last week Feb vs. First week Apr? Is that the right question to be asking at this point?

Something like: "If a few people put together some good deals and fun activities on behalf of the TGR Forums, which is more likely for you to be able to make:
-The last week of Feb in CO
-The first week of Apr in CO
-I cannot make either of those two weeks
-I do not want to go to CO during either of those two weeks"

Good poll?

Sounds good to me Yoss. Thanks.
Oh yeah, and...E) I don't care cause I'll be skiin' at least 2 days a week in Colo. on all of the above.:D
No, seriously maybe we should expand it just a little more - seems like there were some other dates mentioned earlier somewhere.
Then maybe move on to the where.

[Buster Highmen]

So, if it's to be CO, I hear either:

Last Week of February (Silverton is about $130/day, guided only), or
First Week of April (Silverton is about $50/day, unguided)
And:
Central CO, and/or
SW CO

Okay...how do we move forward here? A more specific poll with these options? Or perhaps the date question comes first now?
Last week Feb vs. First week Apr? Is that the right question to be asking at this point?

Something like: "If a few people put together some good deals and fun activities on behalf of the TGR Forums, which is more likely for you to be able to make:
-The last week of Feb in CO
-The first week of Apr in CO
-I cannot make either of those two weeks
-I do not want to go to CO during either of those two weeks"

Good poll?
Please forgive me for injecting Silverton here again. I've really gotten enough hate PMs about it and I'm really not interested in furthering the hate in this regard, even though it's in fashion and in season as well as the trite trolls.

Anyway:

The idea of SW CO the last part of the week is schmahrt.

Caveats:
1) Do we want to make March a choice despite the known crowds. Vacation restrictions for some may make March their only option.

2) It should be called out that Silverton is guided only until April at a cost of about $130. Cheap lodging in S'ton offsets this, but still, it should be called out.

After April, it should be noted that Silverton offers unguided skiing at about $50. There are obvious benefits of that.


Whatever the poll is, try to have 1 poll. I think there's 10 options max per poll.

So:

-The last week of Feb in CO (At this time, Silverton is guided only at about $130/day)
-The first week of Apr in CO (At this time Silverton offers unguided at about $50/day).
-The middle of March in CO (At this time, Silverton is guided only at about $130/day).
-I cannot make any of those weeks
-I do not want to go to CO during any of those weeks


and from here on, I'll try to keep my trap shut about it.

[Viva]

I'm tickled by the notion of sticking to just SW Colorado. If Taos is killing it, then that's another attraction to the region. How's SW Colorado during Marchy-poo? I would guess that the students hit the popular places like Aspen/Vail/Steamboat/et al over spring break while eschewing the more remote parts of the state.

[Buzzworthy]

Are you guys going to do your own thing?



BZ, I am notorious for not ever making a Summit, for one reason or another, mostly lack of funds for such an event while family obligations come first. But I do try to make trips when I can to ski/board with Maggots. Hence, UT Mini.

I may possibly be in SW CO for business in April and would like to hook up with my buddies at a place I have never been yet. So I would couple my trip. Logistics are getting harder these days. Moving up the ladder, family obligations, money only goes so far............

If and when all this is figured out, I hope to make a Summit.

But Yoss has a point too, if it is blower in Feb in Utah and the Summit is in CO with lesser conditions, say at the same time, I am sorry and selfish, but I would stay here to ride.

And while I dig the gaggle of maggots at the "meeting" areas during the day, that is about as much as I see some maggots (based on Mini experiences). Off the chair and it can be quite a site, people spreading out everywhere. It is hard to ski/ride with more than 4-6 at most and all keep up and stay together.

So since it is August 3, I will wait and see what happens.

[Yossarian]

Including March dates is probably good because it will allow people to come that might not be able to come (spring break). However, I think it's a good point that the Front Range and Summit Co and Vail may need to be avoided in mid-late March, so...how about the following "sensible" options:

24 FEB to 04 MAR: 1st 1/2 FR/SUCO/VAIL, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
03 MAR to 11 MAR: 1st 1/2 FR/SUCO/VAIL, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
10 MAR to 18 MAR: 1st 1/2 ASPEN, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
17 MAR to 25 MAR: 1st 1/2 ASPEN, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
24 MAR to 01 APR: 1st 1/2 ASPEN, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
31 MAR to 08 APR: 1st 1/2 FR/SUCO/VAIL, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
I can not travel to CO during any of these weeks
I will not travel to CO during any of these weeks

Whaddya think? Decent poll?

[Buster Highmen]

Including March dates is probably good because it will allow people to come that might not be able to come (spring break). However, I think it's a good point that the Front Range and Summit Co and Vail may need to be avoided in mid-late March, so...how about the following "sensible" options:

24 FEB to 04 MAR: 1st 1/2 FR/SUCO/VAIL, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
03 MAR to 11 MAR: 1st 1/2 FR/SUCO/VAIL, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
10 MAR to 18 MAR: 1st 1/2 ASPEN, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
17 MAR to 25 MAR: 1st 1/2 ASPEN, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
24 MAR to 01 APR: 1st 1/2 ASPEN, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
31 MAR to 08 APR: 1st 1/2 FR/SUCO/VAIL, 2nd 1/2 SWCO
I can not travel to CO during any of these weeks
I will not travel to CO during any of these weeks

Whaddya think? Decent poll?
Yup, but what about specifying the Silverton conditions? Too complicated?

[Yossarian]

Would give various cost and logistics impact comments in the body of the poll, but not the options.

So, poll options as stated, then a series of bullet points/thoughts for people to consider, as in:

- Spring Break generally runs from the second week of March to the last week of March
- During Spring Break, places are more full, prices are higher, slopes are busier, lift lines are long, BUT, crowds are fun, weather and snow are good, and events are plentiful
- Ticket prices go down after Spring Break, usually at the beginning of April.
- Colorado pass holders have unlimited skiing for the last two weeks of the season at Vail Resorts
- Silverton goes unguided at $50/day in April
- If you can get them in person, Aspen Classic passes can be had for $120 or so for 4 days on a pre-season purchase
Etc, etc

EDIT: what other things might one call out in the "considerations" portion of the poll thread?


EDIT2: Snowpack starts to stabilize slightly more as the season runs into the later months e.g. April. As CO has a notoriously dangerous snowpack, those wanting to go b/c should keep this in mind.

[bklyn]

Sounds good to me. Last week of Feb is out for me though :(

[RootSkier]

So where is the Summit for all the people who want to go to a Summit but not if its in CO? ;)

[Yossarian]

well, the summit summit has been in SLC, Tahoe, Interior BC, and uh, the PacNW already?
and there are annual mini summits in SLC, Mt. Hood, Europe, Vermont, Mammoth and other places...

So...

What's your question, exactly?

[Buster Highmen]

Would give various cost and logistics impact comments in the body of the poll, but not the options.

OK.


EDIT: what other things might one call out in the "considerations" portion of the poll thread?

1) Would enumerating the actual areas clarify, congeal or confuse?
e.g. SWCO: Silverton, Telluride, Crested Butte, Taos.

Specifying which areas are within an after ski drive might sway some people to attend.

[Yossarian]

good idea, yes. most definitely

[Buster Highmen]

Then do it. It's better to instantiate imperfection after some good thought than to wheedle on endlessly in pursuit of perfection.

[FrankZappa]

I'm tickled by the notion of sticking to just SW Colorado. If Taos is killing it, then that's another attraction to the region. How's SW Colorado during Marchy-poo? I would guess that the students hit the popular places like Aspen/Vail/Steamboat/et al over spring break while eschewing the more remote parts of the state.
The correct answer here is: During spring break, The closer to Texas you are, the more Texans - ie: Purgatory, Wolf Creek, Monarch. (as in busiest days of the year)
Not sure of this effect on T-ride & I doubt there is any effect on S-ton. CB = don't know but I bet there's some.
In other words, because of the endless stoping of the chair due to idiots that can't deal with moving chairs, you have to do this to get the goods when you run out of patience (takes about a minute):
http://www.soulskier.com/summit/060313wc/lonejump.jpg


Thanks for the work on this all.

[skiHOG]

31 MAR to 08 APR: 1st 1/2 FR/SUCO/VAIL, 2nd 1/2 SWCO


i think these dates could be good, but I think 1st half should be SWCO and 2nd half be in FR/SUCO/Vail. I think silverton gets more and more iffy once March hits so it might be better to get to it ASAP. also, i know that last week in march there are still some spring breakers lurking around the front range still, so if we wait a bit they will clear out.

we are talking a matter of a couple days here, so maybe it's nothing to worry about.

[Yossarian]

Silverton is closed Mon-Wed.

So, switching the halves would mean skiing Sat/Sun at silverton if people wanted to go there at all in the first half.

On Thur/Fri of a week, however, it's been three days since anyone has been there. Better chance for deeper snow.

My $.02

[skiHOG]

Silverton is closed Mon-Wed.

So, switching the halves would mean skiing Sat/Sun at silverton if people wanted to go there at all in the first half.

On Thur/Fri of a week, however, it's been three days since anyone has been there. Better chance for deeper snow.

My $.02

my bad, i just totally brain farted. i knew silverton was closed then. hmm, well i can still do those dates. I could also do it later in april, too. March just might be a little too crowded in CO.

[0BernhardFranz]

GUESS AK WOULD BE CRAP IDEA ? BF

[SheRa]

I just want to say thanks to the folks like Yossarian that are already putting a lot of effort into this. I will do my best to come to some/part/all once it's decided. Really psyched about maggots coming to Colorado, even though it sucks here. :D I will help if I can - maybe go and get people from DIA or something. I'm sure needs are gonna arise and all of us from Colorado should try to help in the way of hosting as best we can. I'll do my best for sure. At the very least I will make a fire on Loveland Pass to get the snow coming.

And I think I want to go to the mammoth mini.