The Ten Commandments

[AltaPowderDaze]

i ran across this again the other day. take note:

http://www.pawprince.com/pawprince/writings/text_versions/ten_nots.htm

[powderdave]

"FOUR SCORE AND A FEW YEARS AGO, our Forefathers and Foremothers foreskinned upon thy powder."


"foreskinned" - does that involve snow? And, can women "foreskin" powder too?

[aspenskibum]

5) Thou Shall Not Willingly Cross Thy Neighbors Tracks
Unless by previous agreement, like 8’ing tracks, skiing over the top of someone’s fleeting artwork is bad manners, doubly so if you biff. Find fresh lines if you have to, or spoon if you must. Punishment? Cross a track, break your Mother’s back. It’s that simple.

this is retarded

[bcrider]

5) Thou Shall Not Willingly Cross Thy Neighbors Tracks
Unless by previous agreement, like 8’ing tracks, skiing over the top of someone’s fleeting artwork is bad manners, doubly so if you biff. Find fresh lines if you have to, or spoon if you must. Punishment? Cross a track, break your Mother’s back. It’s that simple.

this is retarded

Why?

When you’re in the backcountry there is typically no reason to cross anyone else’s tracks due to the abundance of untracked snow.

Skiing over someone’s tracks in the bc is bad etiquette and bad style…not to mention a very gaperish thing to do. If you must cross the tracks due to route selection at least ollie or bunny hop it. ;)

[StroupSkier]

Why?

When you’re in the backcountry there is typically no reason to cross anyone else’s tracks due to the abundance of untracked snow.

Skiing over someone’s tracks in the bc is bad etiquette and bad style…not to mention a very gaperish thing to do. If you must cross the tracks due to route selection at least ollie or bunny hop it.

What is the line is one of those retarded ones where they skied a few turns, each in varying radius, crossed the slope after they picked up speed, made a few more, slightly wider turns trying to control speed, followed by a bombhole where that didn't work, and finally a wide swath of scraped snow where they snowplowed the rest of the way down?

Then can we cross their tracks?

[Woodsy]

only if you bunny hop to switch
those are great and should be posted at trailheads around the US.

[aspenskibum]

it seems to me you'd have a ginourmous stick up your ass if you let a great day in the bc be ruined by someone crossing your tracks. especially since that person is probably your freind anyways. also, i thought the point of skiing was to enjoy skiing, not to make pretty little tracks.

[bcrider]

it seems to me you'd have a ginourmous stick up your ass if you let a great day in the bc be ruined by someone crossing your tracks. especially since that person is probably your freind anyways.
Who said anything about letting it ruin a killer day in the bc???
We were just talking about how its kinda bad form and a jong thing to do.


also, i thought the point of skiing was to enjoy skiing, not to make pretty little tracks.
Part of the enjoyment in bc skiing is looking back at the artwork you and your frinds leave on the giant, white canvas. Resort skiing is probably different since this concept would be impossible to instill in a liftline full of jongs and gapers. ;)

[marshalolson]

unless there is a reason to cross someones tracks, don't cross them.

[cj001f]

Part of the enjoyment in bc skiing is looking back at the artwork you and your frinds leave on the giant, white canvas. Resort skiing is probably different since this concept would be impossible to instill in a liftline full of jongs and gapers. ;)
When I see someone from Utah right don't cross other peoples tracks I think of:
http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/plab/data/500/2135ootah05.jpg
aka backcountry powderfarming

there aren't many things on that list that bother me. Uncourteous yes, bother no.
#1 on my list would be have a clue
#2 keep your party under control. This includes pets and people.

[addict]

That photo's got some crazy uproute skintracks!

[AltaPowderDaze]

like this: http://www.gravityfed.com/graphics/articles/february01/farmer-dave2.jpg


we're not really that up tight around here. for the most part i could care less about who crosses my track since i usually take up the whole chute to ski. when i'm going slow and making nice turns, then i take offense to someone gaping up my art. the rest of the time i'm just happy to be floating thru the snow.

[Toby]

:eek: I'd hate to be the one to screw up a turn and mess up that pattern. Then again, it'd be kinda cool to come along and lay some fat GS turns right through the middle of it :the_finge.

[AltaPowderDaze]

:eek: I'd hate to be the one to screw up a turn and mess up that pattern. Then again, it'd be kinda cool to come along and lay some fat GS turns right through the middle of it :the_finge.

yeah, that's what most people with no skill would do. :p

[Foggy_Goggles]

Nice APD, I may try and contact Andrew and see if I may be able to borrow some of that. I'm working on some signage for the forest service to display at some of the more popular trailheads around here.

[Meathelmet]

like this: http://www.gravityfed.com/graphics/articles/february01/farmer-dave2.jpg


Where the hell was that article about that guy? Was in the net or couloir or where? It was hillarious. We people are weird.Luckily.


Number eleven should be: "If you unload you´r previous nights taco in the wild, make sure the next unloader dont follow your tracks to the sacred place and step on it. Instead,mark it with a small cone (1-4 feet high) of snow, so the next plodder does not get some bogaboos on his boots and bindings.It sucks.Literally."

[粉末雪]

Isn't it a six-pack for each track crossed?

[slim]

This thread is fucking stupid.

[粉末雪]

This thread is fucking stupid.
Wassa matter, Slim. You ain''t into spooning?

[AltaPowderDaze]

This thread is fucking stupid.

thanks for contributing.


there is a real message in this thread but some either choose to focus on the trivial or are just too
fucking stupidto get it.

[altagirl]

unless there is a reason to cross someones tracks, don't cross them.

That's fine. I just don't understand being particularly upset about it if it happens. Personally - if you want to cross my tracks, go right ahead. I could care less.


Today's skintracks were just about all postholed. And that does certainly suck. I could also add - if there are people skinning up behind you, and you decide you're going to stop and say, have lunch, you could pull off the track instead of blocking it.

[cj001f]

there is a real message in this thread
Enlighten us then. Aside from be considerate is there any other message in the laundry list of ills?

[AltaPowderDaze]

Enlighten us then. Aside from be considerate is there any other message in the laundry list of ills?




6) Thou Shall Not Knowingly Ski Down Upon Thy Neighbor
Risking your own life is one thing, but endangering others with avalanches from above is totally irresponsible. The only exception to this is if they have broken Suggestion #3 and poached your line.

8) Thou Shall Not Ski Without Thy Proper Equipment
Showing up without a beacon or shovel endangers not only you, but your partners as well. Remember the Six P’s – Proper Prior Preparation Prevents Poor Performance.




i don't know why i bother. now i remember why i took a break from this place. looks like it's time for another.

[cj001f]

6) Thou Shall Not Knowingly Ski Down Upon Thy Neighbor

8) Thou Shall Not Ski Without Thy Proper Equipment

I don't know why i bother. now i remember why i took a break from this place. looks like it's time for another.

Jeez. I thought both of those fell under "be considerate" albeit with a bit more weight than crossing thy neighbors skin tracks

[slim]

This thread is fucking stupid because:

You should be focusing on your safety and the safety of those around you while you're in the backcountry... not on how some other dude is stepping over the lines of your backcountry etiquette fest.

If some guy crossing your track or peeing next to the trail rains on your parade then I have no idea how you get through the tumult of regular life.

That list reads like the greens rules at a fucking country club. What's needed, besides safety and fun, is, as cj said, common courtesy. Anything beyond that is simply a punch-list for a bunch of prigs to bitch about.

[stump832]

So what are you saying, Slim?

[粉末雪]

This thread is fucking stupid because:

Don't hate the farmer.

Or the meadow skippers.

[Trackhead]

http://fritzrips.com/Gallery/albums/Random-Files/turns_and_tracks.jpg

http://fritzrips.com/Gallery/albums/Random-Files/turn5.jpg

[粉末雪]

[QUOTE=Trackhead]http://fritzrips.com/Gallery/albums/Random-Files/turns_and_tracks.jpg




skipper.

[baseWeldr]

our inbounds hightraverse gets more yellow every year, I guess more traffic will do that. The thing only takes about 5-8 minutes for expert sidesteppers or snowboard-walkers and its easy to get up there ten or more times in a day for better snow and longer lines. Many of the folks that wander up there are not expert sidesteppers and may do the highT but once or twice a day on their one day of skiing that week. I think its these types that pee all over the traverse sometimes thinking they are way out by themselves and then I'm steppin on their tails while they're zipping up and tucking in. Anyway the trees that we use get bad enough and I feel like its my living room they're peeing in cuz I gotta look at the yellow burn holes all day everyday. Off topic slightly as this forum is inherently BC related but the ethic sticks with me and I try to keep it white for all who may follow.

and if there's plenty of room on a big white canvas I don't see why we'd have to cross tracks. Within reason I attempt to avoid any that are already there, I think this sense is of course elevated when you know the tracks will be seen. High profile powderfields or faces I like to see each line on its own, seems like higher style points are awarded for not needing to cross another guys line to complete your own. Lower down or continuous treeshots, meh, ski where ya wanna...

.02overpriced

[Avmapper]

:eek: I'd hate to be the one to screw up a turn and mess up that pattern. Then again, it'd be kinda cool to come along and lay some fat GS turns right through the middle of it :the_finge.


Some big ol warp speed snowboard turns right throught those anal-retentive tracks.

[AltaPowderDaze]

Some big ol warp speed snowboard turns right throught those anal-retentive tracks.


i'd laugh my ass off if elderly farmer dave started shooting poacher skeet. "PULL" "boarder on your left...MISS, but you peppered his ass"

really, what's wrong with giving an old guy some space to do what he loves. it's not like most of you sidecountry weekend warriors can even get back to where he lays his art down.

[aspenskibum]

http://fritzrips.com/Gallery/albums/Random-Files/turn5.jpg

whats really amazing about this is your dog know not to fuck up the tracks

[Trackhead]

whats really amazing about this is your dog know not to fuck up the tracks

What do you mean? Those are all his tracks.

[bcrider]

Slim,
I went back and read the whole thread and I’ll be damned if I can find anyone that said they take bc etiquette more seriously than safety. I also couldn’t find anyone that said they care about it SO much that they let it ruin their day.

I think cj001f hit the nail on the head, being considerate (and using common sense) goes a long way.

Ps- Just because I endorse the “no crossing tracks” rule doesn’t mean I like to spoon. I’ll spoon if I have too but for the most part I don’t like being confined and told where I can and cannot turn. You can still have the freedom to pick your own line and ski it the way you like (g/s turns, tight turns, no turns). Just use common sense.



Here is what you get when you don't...a mess. ;)
http://www.biglines.com/photos/normal/biglines_47632.jpg

The skier appears to be attempting to stay in the fresh but what the heck were the people before him thinking? Going from left to right. The first guy goes, fine. Second track, why the hard skiers right across the track? What’s up with the track going across the slope for no reason at all?

Crossing tracks is less fun than not, shows a lack of style, and makes for poor pictures in my humble opinion.
But…I will in no way ever-ever let it ruin my day. :p

[slippy]

Skiing over someone’s tracks in the bc is bad etiquette and bad style…not to mention a very gaperish thing to do. If you must cross the tracks due to route selection at least ollie or bunny hop it.

I try to hold my tongue on this board, as I see a bunch of bizarre comments posted here day after day, but this one has to be one of the lamest things I've heard in a long time.


Holy shit.

[bcrider]

Slippy,

If you knew me in person you’d know not to take everything I say on the internet toooo seriously. ;)

Ps. Don’t you work for a film company or something? When you are filming and the second skier goes, is it better for them to ski their own line or zig-zag and make turns all over the first skiers track?

[slippy]

You know the answer to that one, but we are skiing for completely different reasons when shooting. If someone has no choice but to cross a track while filming, it's not that big of a deal. And they certainly don't bunny hop over it.

As for skiing for fun, I've never even thought about how crossing a track is going to annoy someone until seeing this thread. Who cares, it'll all be erased by the next storm. For me it's about skiing down, not how your tracks look afterwards or for someone else to see. But hey, do watcha gotta do.

[phUnk]

I always bunnyhop other people's tracks and land switch so I can check out the turns I just got done making..

[slippy]

Mount your helmet cam backwards, that's what I do.

bcrider, never mind me. just ranting about nothing.

[bcrider]

If you must cross the tracks due to route selection at least ollie or bunny hop it.

Just wanted to point out my improper usage of the winky ( or lack there of).


If you must cross the tracks due to route selection at least ollie or bunny hop it. ;)

that’s better.