Ooonce, Ooonce, Ooonce I hear the South America 2005 Mini Discussion

[Squirrel99]

I know it's a bit early...but these 60 degree temps in WA have me thinking ahead to better climates...

No that is not a jackhammer you hear in the background, it's the radiant vibe of club UFO. With the South American soul pounding delicate oonces through your head while you wash down that Vodka con speed and some fernet, take a moment and consider el tres lugares por un Mini de America del Sur.

As we have not really had much of a season in the PNW, we'll take up hosting duties for this vino tinto con lomo con nieve polvo gathering...
I'd post some more pics, but if you're reading this far, you already know what kind of goods can be had in SA :D

Dude le en Termas
Squirrel, Girlski, BC-Flow, Basom & Co. en Lenas (with Powstash???)
Arturus Fufkin con Cornholio, Yossarian and others en Bariloche

I would be more than happy to coordinate said mini for Las Lenas, say around Late August/Early September.

The floor is now open for discussion...

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

shite...I don't know where the hell I'm going yet. Prolly wherever Arty & lph are going as we've discussed trying to co-ordinate everything and traveling down there together. Las Lenas / Bariloche / or both....possibly leanin towards Bariloche....

[PNWbrit]

Fairly certain I'll be in either LL or Bariloche around that time.

[tibaher]

(coughs)it hit 70 degree's today(coughs)
I'm pinching pennies due to the lack of ski/work season here this year, but have alredy subtly plant the seeds soo as to...um go there and ski...

[fineline]

I am planning on going to south america in july sometime until school starts up at the end of august. Dont know exactly where and dont know with who, I dont have anyone to go with as of now, I have kind of been thinking I might go down and fend on my own and make friends I guess... I would be down to get some sort of crew together or something. I am new at the whole south america thing...

[Squirrel99]

I am planning on going to south america in july sometime until school starts up at the end of august. Dont know exactly where and dont know with who, I dont have anyone to go with as of now, I have kind of been thinking I might go down and fend on my own and make friends I guess... I would be down to get some sort of crew together or something. I am new at the whole south america thing...

I went solo the first trip I when I was Utarded in 2001. Very easy to meet people down there- look for the packs and helmets in the lineups. chances are good you'll be able to spot a gringo miles away.

If you are in Lenas July/August, there will likely be a small group I know from Whistler & Jackson in town. you'll spot them easily in the marte line up (or just try the Wine bar or UFO at apres).

And Tyrone, you need to go to both Lenas and Bariloche!

[Yossarian]

Bariloche, I think, for me.
It's really grown on me.

[13]

This just in: 13 may go South of the equator for the very first time this summer.

Stay tuned.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

And Tyrone, you need to go to both Lenas and Bariloche!

I think I might only have 10 days of vaca time to spend though.....I guess if I piggy that up with the Labor Day holiday however, that would help out a little. Is that enough time for both do you think? Shit it's never enough time of course, but you know what I mean....god damn I 'm so stoked for this.

[Squirrel99]

I think I might only have 10 days of vaca time to spend though.....I guess if I piggy that up with the Labor Day holiday however, that would help out a little. Is that enough time for both do you think? Shit it's never enough time of course, but you know what I mean....god damn I 'm so stoked for this.

That's what I've done the past few trips to SA.

I'm tentatively thinking of leaving Thursday 8/25 and returning on Sunday 9/11. Labor Day falls in between so I end up burning only 10 vacation days, but I still get about 15 ski days out of it (overlapping both weekends).

It's tough to do both Bariloche and Lenas in 2 weeks, but I might try it this year. But like Yoss said above, once you find one you like, it kind of grows on ya.

[Squirrel99]

try to find the maps of LL - they have great squiggle lines.

[Yossarian]

I haven't gotten as far as any kind of planning, but we've been the last couple years in the same time frame. If I go, it'd likely be then too. Last week of Aug, first of Sept. If it's a bad year, it can be really bad there when you first arrive, but usually you manage to snag a good storm somewhere in that two week stretch and get 3-4 pow days out of it, and then if you're lucky, you can tour for a couple more at best before it gets totally cooked again. But definitely be prepared to hang around a lot for relatively little epic skiing. That being said, I love it, love the pace, the people, all of it. At this point I just like being there, hitting a huge dump is just a bonus.

The other strategy is to go during the actual winter, much sooner, but I've never tried that. :)

[shamrockpow]

The other strategy is to go during the actual winter, much sooner, but I've never tried that. :)
Wouldn't have helped much the last two years. I don't wanna jinx things, but SA is seriously due

[Squirrel99]

This just in: 13 may go South of the equator for the very first time this summer.
Stay tuned.

The first year I went there I met a few Alta chicas and they described skiing the Andes Powder as "Orgasmic" (not that it happens often, of course, with much less snowfall than NA).

But still, nonetheless, Alta chicks saying Pow was 'orgasmic' and not speaking about Alta in the same sentence spoke volumes about that day!

Does this mean that you're bringing X so he could still send in some "Alta pics of the day" photos from SA?

[dude_le_skibum]

sorry i started an other one...i should read topics before posting...i have to agree with with all the points that were made up there. Las Lenas is sick its the biggest thing out there but its so tricky with the el marte chair. you can be sitting and drinking for quite a bit, i feel its important that you time your trip..

i have never been to bariloche and i am seriously thinking about spending time out there. i would love to see the advantages and disadavantages like i am about to do with termas...

I know termas very well i had great guides and the mountain has serious potential. the best comparaison to the mountain is baker, a little less steep a hole lot less of trees. i don't know if anyone that has skied it will agree. the other advantage of termas is on weekdays, well the car count in the parking rarely get over 10, the place is up to you. you know who lays witch track where...for a summit thats pretty cool...They are laying in an other chair this summer, that can be a plus too. The back country is quite accessible too its easy to plan tours and there is plenty of it. i have been dreaming of giant igloo multi-day sessions, its things that are super do-able down there....an other advantage of termas is the themals. hot water volcanic pools, some of them are poachable pretty easily.
its also pretty central its a day trip to bariloche in train and or first class bus rides. its also 6 hours from santiago, a day more or less, same deal with the winter cold surf...


the disadvantages of termas is that you are in the middle of the countryside. its quiet. weekdays the bars are often closed. the town of las trancas is a road with little dirt roads on the sides that lead into the native forest and bamboos, its quite a good way to disconnect from north american resort life. you have to be able to cope with that.
its also lower altitude, so the snow is sometimes heavier and it rains for quite a bit of time in periods.
the terrain also has its limits to get the more challenging runs you have to work them a little bit harder or more demanding. for sure that you have excellent lines up and around the resort, but the obvious terrain is not that steep and wide open..

et voila. like cletus says. once you find a resort that you like it sorst of grows on you...



edit : because of the investement of the plane ticket it doesn't make it that hard to stay there for longer at not much cost...

[Squirrel99]

I'm definitely torn on this one-
Lenas is a definite for at least 8 days of my time this year- however, I would like to get to Termas or Bariloche to check out some other locales.

Marte chair can be tempermental if the winds pick up or heavy snow ensues for weeks at a time (like 2002). So that's a down side to Lenas. But it's also the biggest of the bunch and has the highest elevation on the plus side.

As another thought- I know of a touring hut that's about 2 hours from Las Lenas. If people wanted to really do the remote touring, I could look into renting it out for a week.

[Cornholio]

What does Ooonce mean?

Oooooooo. Nce?

[Squirrel99]

What does Ooonce mean?

Oooooooo. Nce?

You know, the loud sounds South American techno booms into your head at every restaurant and night club in town...like this- boom.boom.boom.boom.dadadadada..dadada.dadada.dada .dada. ooonce, ouuunce, ouunnnnceee - boom boom boom boom.

and then you head hurts while it still throws down techno beats and the popular English tune from Daft Funk- "One More Time"... that they play every night, in every bar.

[shamrockpow]

I hear it Squirrel:
UummntzZ, UummntzZ, UummntzZ, UummntzZ...

That beat is calling me this summer!

Fineline: where you planning on going to school? I went to La Catolica de Valparaiso and it kicked ass.

My 2 cents: Valle Nevado/Farellones is a great place too. Excellent terrain, short hikes, high altitude, sooo accessible from Santi aeropuerto, but can be un poco mas caro as compared to the South or LL. I was living in VN for about a month in 2003 and definitely have a soft spot in my heart for the people there. As for the scene, all the Brazilian tourists tend to balance out the chica situation vs. Argentina. Brazilians can be very friendly :fmicon:

[Meathelmet]

Dont know exactly where and dont know with who, I dont have anyone to go with as of now, I have kind of been thinking I might go down and fend on my own and make friends I guess...


Same here..

Initial plans for summer 2005:Las Lenas

Arrive to Buenos aires 20th of july.
Bus to Los Molles,search and find the hotell/hostell there.21st.
Start to ski in LL, 22nd.
Take a flight back to Buenos aires from mendoza 9th.
Leave back to Yurup 10-11th.


Lodgings are a bit open atm, but staying in LosMolles seems to be the best way...cheap,2prs room (since im alone), bus or the hotels bus to the slopes.

Goddammit that sounds good!

Btw, does anyone have any snowrecords from the past years in las lenas?
If i understood it right, the winter/percipation cyckle differs quite a lot from the northern hemisphere?

[Phil]

I'm praying for snow this summer ! Yeah El Nino serve it up por favor !

Glad to see there is still south american stoke after last years rocks and bones.

Me plan if I don't injure myself, is to be in southern patagucci for a little stint in June and July then make my way north following the snow !

I hope to bump into some of ya there. T'was fun to meet Cletus, Odin and Cornholio for that total ten minutes !

AS for summit Locations. Las Lenas is sick and lots of potential. I gotta get back up there for a bit this summer.

[PNWbrit]

Same here..

Initial plans for summer 2005:Las Lenas

Arrive to Buenos aires 20th of july.
Bus to Los Molles,search and find the hotell/hostell there.21st.
Start to ski in LL, 22nd.
Take a flight back to Buenos aires from mendoza 9th.
Leave back to Yurup 10-11th.


Lodgings are a bit open atm, but staying in LosMolles seems to be the best way...cheap,2prs room (since im alone), bus or the hotels bus to the slopes.

Goddammit that sounds good!

Btw, does anyone have any snowrecords from the past years in las lenas?
If i understood it right, the winter/percipation cyckle differs quite a lot from the northern hemisphere?

Unless you've actually seen Los Molles and know what you'd be letting yourself in for I'd strongly caution against this plan. There is an active market in cheap beds and room shares amongst US/Euro travellers in LL itself. Riding a bus up and down the highway to Los Molles everyday would suck pole and mean missing out on much of the LL atmosphere.

When everyone has their schedules nailed down how about booking a maggot condo from Brice at http://www.laslenasski.com/ ?

[Arty50]

Holy fuck! Squirrell has the magic maps! PM sent.

[Spats]

Here's a picture of some of the lines on the magic map, taken from the Neptuno lift that goes up the valley. Marte lift is to the left of the picture.

Note: Sin Salida means "No Exit". You can see why. Miss the traverse and you go over the 50 footer.

[Spats]

The sound, incidentally, is:

"doof doof oontz oontz".

Accept no inferior spellings.

[Meathelmet]

Unless you've actually seen Los Molles and know what you'd be letting yourself in for I'd strongly caution against this plan. There is an active market in cheap beds and room shares amongst US/Euro travellers in LL itself. Riding a bus up and down the highway to Los Molles everyday would suck pole and mean missing out on much of the LL atmosphere.

When everyone has their schedules nailed down how about booking a maggot condo from Brice at http://www.laslenasski.com/ ?


Nope, never been there...:)

I ended up with los molles because :

a) cheap
b) can get 2person rooms for reasonable price. i have had my share of sleeping in dormitoriums/multiperson rooms allready, dont miss the circus that much...
c)im not that much of a disco guy..i enjoy a pint (or four) but hangin in clubs and looking steeze has never been much of my cake.

But yes, if people have some kind of apartemento type accomodation in LL id be extremely intrested, love that type of lodging, unless i have to sleep under the kitchen table for a week (done that, sucks, jelly and the pieces of bread fall into the sleepingbag..)

[shamrockpow]

I'm not exactly sure about your timeframe, but by mid to late August there are a ton of gringos with appartments. If you're traveling solo you can definitely find a bed (even with 2 it is easy). Fairly cheap split 6 ways, you're close to the cafetorium (10 peso dinner and you get to meet all the other bro/bras), for TV they show old TGR movies on one channel and Argentine models on the other, and you get your own kitchen. Plus, instead of having to take that crap bus from Los Molles every day, they might actually let you drive the little Mercedes bus around LL!

c)im not that much of a disco guy, BUT you must enjoy a pint of wine (or four) and hangin in clubs with ridirkulous Argentinas and looking dritbag-steeze. thats everyone's cake

[PNWbrit]

Nope, never been there...:)

I ended up with los molles because :

a) cheap
b) can get 2person rooms for reasonable price. i have had my share of sleeping in dormitoriums/multiperson rooms allready, dont miss the circus that much...
c)im not that much of a disco guy..i enjoy a pint (or four) but hangin in clubs and looking steeze has never been much of my cake.

But yes, if people have some kind of apartemento type accomodation in LL id be extremely intrested, love that type of lodging, unless i have to sleep under the kitchen table for a week (done that, sucks, jelly and the pieces of bread fall into the sleepingbag..)

The place is really basic - two or three shitty little farm buildings in the middle of nowhere. Plus if it snows I think your chances of getting stuck down there are high.

You'll need to be in the resort to take in the full experience - the wine bar should be an obligatory stop every evening and at least one meal at the Parilla (sp?)

I don't know how the exchange rate is doing at the moment but once you're down there everything is super cheap compared to anywhere in the states or europe. Consider taking ski gear that you're prepared to sell at the end of your trip, we had several people offer outrageous cash for our stuff.

[Meathelmet]

The place is really basic - two or three shitty little farm buildings in the middle of nowhere. Plus if it snows I think your chances of getting stuck down there are high.

Uurmm... Now you got me thinking..

Not about the farm thing, been stayin last 2-3 seasons in Italy in a village where we had cows nest(?) beneath our window, so that is no prob..
Even liked it.
I just love the smell of burnign cowdung in the morning.

But the being stuck thing aint no option..

Soo...

Tried to find some info on the same levell of accomodation in the village but only came up with the two hotels. Any pointters?

If any maggots plan to rent some apartemento, ill could be lining up for that.

Quite tidy, knows something about cooking (at least porridge), rarelly vomits all around the place, doesnt snore and hates washing dishes.

Any takers?

And shamrock, yes, i do have a flecky Carhart hoodie and a woolycap that has not been washed...ever. And i have been practicing the "cool freeskier that is not at all intrested in the chicas" look.
Mainly because Mrs.Meathelmet has been insisting on it..

[cj001f]

Bariloche, I think, for me.
It's really grown on me.
Hehe. Have you done any touring to Refugio Frey, etc? I´ve only been there in summer (I think the Refugio is closed in the winter, but I´m planning on checking into that later in the month)

I´m trying to make it to Bariloche/LL in Aug/Sept. That may be a little much S America for the year though.

Bari! Bari-lo! Bari-lo-che!

[Squirrel99]

they show old TGR movies on one channel and Argentine models on the other

You can enjoy Fashion TV en Ingles on the interworld:
Fashion TV (http://www.ftv.com)

[fineline]

shamrock- I don't mean I am going to school down in south america, if thats what you thought I meant, sorry for the confusion- I will be starting here at the U of U late august. Until then I will be skiing... somewhere. I have money saved up for myself and am ready to take july and august abroad. I just dont know anything about anything, every spare moment I get is spent searching the net, etc for any information to help me get to either SA or NZ. But I still feel like a lost little girl. (which I am, and will be this summer, its going to be rad)

If there is any kind of condo thing coming together, I would definately be interested! And im not sure if I am clear on this, are there cheap hostell places or something in las lenas? I am eating all this info up and trying to keep it straight, thanks

[dude_le_skibum]

can anyone find a long range forecast or an el nino expexted long term precips kinda deal ?

[cj001f]

can anyone find a long range forecast or an el nino expexted long term precips kinda deal ?
e4h, there are some long term forecasts, but how accurate. 1cm of snow remains from a last weekend at Cerro Castor today....

[Rusty Nails]

I would definitely be interested in linking up with some mags near end of July. The warm days would be fun. I could ski in a man-blouse and smoove chicas on the lift. Mmmmm. Damn.

[dude_le_skibum]

e4h, there are some long term forecasts, but how accurate. 1cm of snow remains from a last weekend at Cerro Castor today....




but you can know if its going to be an el nino with tons of precips with a warmer pacific or a dry bone winter...

they also got 4 summits to rent, they are not long track but i am pretty sure they work and god knows i know the area...that was last year. probably could work again...

[dude_le_skibum]

i took this off
http://www.meteochile.cl/comunicado_ninonina.html


you got to read chileno-spanish


Acerca de escenario previsto para período invernal 2005 (Jun-Jul-Ago), los modelos de predicción de la temperatura superficial del mar en el Pacífico central (Niño3.4), prevén un 50% de probabilidad de que se mantenga con condiciones más cálidas que lo normal (anomalías positivas entre +0.5 y +1.0°C) y 45% de presentarse una condición neutra (anomalías entre -0.5°C y +0.5°C), es decir, ausencia de calentamientos y enfriamientos oceánicos significativos. Solo un 5% es asignado a la ocurrencia de un evento La Niña Ver figura 7. La situación oceánica dominante durante estos meses será determinante en definir el escenario pluviométrico más probable durante el invierno. Por tal motivo esta Dirección continuará monitoreado e informando a la comunidad de cualquier cambio significativo que sea observado en las temperaturas superficiales del mar ecuatorial y en los patrones de la circulación atmosférica para los siguientes meses, ambos considerados claves para el pronóstico estacional de la precipitación en Chile.


this is te link to figura 7

http://www.meteochile.cl/ninonina_fig07.html


if i am getting this right. it calls for slightly warmer weather in the pacific ??

[Squirrel99]

i have quotes for horse rentals but damn they don't work too well in the snow...

Dude_le - that's classic! But sounds so much like South America!
A TR from Termas with horses hauling gear- now that would rule!

[CantDog]

Has anyone started looking into airfare? looks around 900 to buenos aires and 1100 to santiago. Thinking of going for the entire month of august if possible.

[dude_le_skibum]

Dude_le - that's classic! But sounds so much like South America!
A TR from Termas with horses hauling gear- now that would rule!


laugh now, but it is so do-able, there's 2 or 3 valleys that are only accessible by horse, with no habitants. and we have been hunting this cabin that suposelly exists...

[Squirrel99]

laugh now, but it is so do-able, there's 2 or 3 valleys that are only accessible by horse, with no habitants. and we have been hunting this cabin that suposelly exists...

Actually, I'm only laughing a little bit- I think that would be totally sweet! But I've also seen pics from horseback ski expeditions in SA. It just seems so perfect, though- for a South America TR.

"We loaded up the horses with our gear and set out for base camp ..."

That would be a hell of a way to start out a mini! :biggrin:

[Mach Looney]

I have a pseudo-plan to spend three months in South America this summer after I graduate. My idea is to work and ski in Santiago from mid-June to mid-August, then spend a month in Las Lenas until mid-September. I don't know much about Bariloche, but maybe I'll split up the Las Lenas time with some time there. Good stories about Bariloche, anyone?

As far as places to stay in Las Lenas, I've talked with Mark Lasseter from laslenasski.com (http://laslenasski.com) about a condo setup, but I'm thinking about just showing up and finding a place. Sounds like flying solo is no problem.

I've never been down there, so I can't freaking wait!



edit: JONG maneuver on the hyperlink - hooray.

[cj001f]

My idea is to work and ski in Santiago from mid-June to mid-August
Santiago? You really want to spend that much time there?

[Mach Looney]

Santiago? You really want to spend that much time there?

Sure. I'll probably need to work at a hostel or teach English to subsist while I'm down there. Argentina doesn't hire foreigners due to the high unemployment rate, so Santiago sounds like a good spot. Maybe not the best skiing, but what can you do? Besides, I want to work on my Spanish, get to know the culture and all that good stuff.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

cool little vid on SA from doglotion.com

http://www.doglotion.com/files/videos/LasLenas256.wmv

[Squirrel99]

cool little vid on SA from doglotion.com

http://www.doglotion.com/files/videos/LasLenas256.wmv

I can't wait to get back! Nice footie- I'm pretty sure that footie was shot in late Aug/early Sept. 2001 after a nice 3-5m dump

Here's hoping for Santa Rosa to bless once again in 2005

[shamrockpow]

Has anyone started looking into airfare? looks around 900 to buenos aires and 1100 to santiago. Thinking of going for the entire month of august if possible.
www.despegar.com

If you don't speak spanish, try and find a good travel agent. I've found that getting my own transport to JFK or Miami can save $400-500 off what you listed above (tax included). Just keep your eyes open for specials: United, American, Lan(Chile), Copa (Panama), all offer specials for the summer/winter months of peak ski season. Varig (from Brasil) has also had some good rates on their site.

Mach: Santi is not the greatest South American city, but you can have a really good time. One thing to keep in mind tho, is that it is a bitch of a road from the city up to skiing. Only about 1-1.5 hours, but not passable in snowy conditions. Also, Las Condes is the area closest to the mountains (and nicest in town), but can get super-caro. If you have any questions about Chile, feel free to drop me a PM.

I'm getting pumped! Dudele: keep me in the loop for any secret hut/horse renting touring plans

[sea2ski]

If you don't speak spanish, try and find a good travel agent. I've found that getting my own transport to JFK or Miami can save $400-500 off what you listed above (tax included). Just keep your eyes open for specials: United, American, Lan(Chile), Copa (Panama), all offer specials for the summer/winter months of peak ski season. Varig (from Brasil) has also had some good rates on their site.



Also don't forget Delta. They just added Buenos Aires as a route city this past year. Since it's a relatively new route for them, they might be more willing to keep the rates low.

I would also suggest using frequent flier miles for a trip like this if you have them. The advantage is you can book last minute if weather looks sketchy and not pay through the nose. I booked three days before I took off last year and it cost me $85 and 50,000 miles. I also got a $150 voucher from Delta since we where 4 hours late out of Atlanta so I actually made money flying Delta. :D



By the way does anyone know if there is still a $100 surcharge for all Americans flying into Santiago.

[Squirrel99]

By the way does anyone know if there is still a $100 surcharge for all Americans flying into Santiago.

It's a $100 fee payable in cash for US Citizens upon arrival in Chile. This is a reciprocal charge. I'm pretty sure it is $75CDN for Canadian Citizens.
On the plus side, these 'tourist cards' are valid for return visits until the expiration date of your passport.

Anyone changing planes in Santiago "en transito" does not have to pay the tourist card. **But Argentina has a departure tax of approximately $30.00 USD that is payable in either USD or AR pesos- I believe this applies to all travelers, regardless of citizenship.

I'll be on Delta again this year (FF mileage, baby!). Arriving in Santiago likely.
Depends on how cheap the LanExpress flight is over to Mendoza.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

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I'll be on Delta again this year (FF mileage, baby!). Arriving in Santiago likely.


I'm considering the same exact thing.

[Squirrel99]

I'm considering the same exact thing.

So glad to go through ATL instead of DFW this year. Changing planes and DFW sucks.

I'm shooting for 8/25 (Thursday) flight from ATL to SCL. I'm going to take the first flight out of Seattle (or maybe the red-eye the night prior) to hang out in ATL for the day with some friends before catching the long 9.5-10 hr. flight to Chile.

Instead of drinking (which seems to be the usual norm with those Southern Belles :FIREdevil ), thinking about hitting up some Six Flags action for a few hours to pass the time.

[Squirrel99]

Based on some very preliminary responses, I'm going out on a limb and proposing the following week for a South America Summit:
Aug 27 - Sept 3, 2005 @ Las Lenas
*week after reserved for Bariloche or Termas touring*

I usually stay in LL for about 20 days, but this year, thinking about going for 8 to 10 days, then checking out some new terrain in either Chile or Bariloche region (or perhaps getting that 'secret' hut for a few touring days about 2-3 hours from LL).

I'll hopefully be on the Delta flight to Santiago Thursday 8/25. Likely connecting onto the LanExpress 9am flight to Mendoza (if not, hopping the bus). Would be cool to have a 'maggot' flight!

Okay, it's almost April... discuss :)

[Meathelmet]

I would definitely be interested in linking up with some mags near end of July. The warm days would be fun. I could ski in a man-blouse and smoove chicas on the lift. Mmmmm. Damn.

Rusty, do you have any connections in the LL itself for lodging?

Tried to find out the prices for Los Molles, but they replied back that they
have not yet lauched next winters prices..

But this thingy that i found, has anyone any experiences of it?

http://www.laslenas.net/apartments.html

And some other place:

http://www.intertournet.com.ar/esqui/las_lenas_dptos.htm

And some third place:

http://www.snownet.com.ar/ingles/UntitledFrame-6.html

How does theese prices compeare to the prices you have paid before?

Just to get some kind of overview in the pricerange.
I guess there will begin to be double tariffs (locals vs. gringos) as the economic slide seems to continue down there..



And about the usuall snowfall statistics.

I have found somehting ,like this, http://www.cosis.net/members/onlib/request.php?file=EGS/NHS/2002/3/nhs-2-221.pdf


but searching to find out what the usuall snowfall cyckle is in the SA since it seems to differ from the northern hemisphere quite a lot?
Does anyone have any links or where to find some readings?

And oh, Fieldguides seems to have this kind of guides in the repertuaire...

http://www.fieldtouring.com/staff/lunalrg.jpg

[Phil]

Giddy Up ! is all I got to say.

[cj001f]

So glad to go through ATL instead of DFW this year. Changing planes and DFW sucks.
Not as much as Delta´s service sucks. Fíng 30 year old airplane. Can´t figure out who has what seat. Every leg late.

An Aerolineas flight to Mendoza should be the same price as Lan(as long as you don´t pay the etranjero price), so why not layover in BUE where you can get all you can eat Lomo for AR$17?

EZE airport tax is AR$57 or something like that.

[Meathelmet]

An Aerolineas flight to Mendoza should be the same price as Lan(as long as you don´t pay the etranjero price), so why not layover in BUE where you can get all you can eat Lomo for AR$17?

EZE airport tax is AR$57 or something like that.


Is it true that the goverment has passed the law that foreigners cannot travel on the economy class at all on internal flights?
They have to buy instead First or Businessclass ticets.

Equalizing sucks..

[cj001f]

Is it true that the goverment has passed the law that foreigners cannot travel on the economy class at all on internal flights?
They have to buy instead First or Businessclass ticets.

Equalizing sucks..

I believe that´s the law, but it doesn´t seem well inforced. And it only seems to be for Aerolineas Argentinas tickets. If you purchase your ticket in the States/Europe (internet or travel agent) you definitely have to pay that price, if you purchase in Argentina via a travel agent or direct from Aerolineas you probably (I´ve heard of very few exceptions) don´t. As an example I purchased a same day ticket on Aerolineas at the airport with my illiterate Spanglish, and a US passport, to Rio Gallegos for AR$300, after my southern winds flight was cancelled. My advance reservation was AR$297. All of my tickets bought in Argentina have been simlilarly cheap, and far different than the absurd fares quoted by the Aerolineas website.

There are other Argentine airlines (destinations are from Aeroparque, the Buenos Aires domestic airport, a $20 or less transfer from EZE, including massive bags):
American Falcon http://www.americanfalcon.com.ar/home.asp flies to Bariloche
Southern Wings http://www.fly-sw.com flies to Mendoza and Bariloche, but I wouldn´t pay for your ticket in advance (the scandal being 60kg of Coc in an unsuitcase in Madrid, turns out the President of the airline was complicit :eek: )
LADE http://www.lade.com.ar/ flies to Usushaia and other Patagonia destinations. They fly Argentina Airforce equipment, it´s an interesting experience.

All of the above are reasonable, safe airlines, you can even earn American Airlines miles on Southern Winds.

[Arty50]

Southern Winds sucks ass. I've never been on an older airplane. I think it was an original model 737...with duct tape on the tail fin. 20 years ago I flew on newer airplanes.

Best of all we got to fly in that plane from Malargue to Mendoza right when the Santa Rosa was blowing in. I thought we were going to die.

[cj001f]

I've never been on an older airplane.
It´s a plane, it gets you there. Sorry you don´t have all the comforts of home. My Southern Winds plane was newer than the Delta flight down :rolleyes:

[shamrockpow]

It´s a plane, it gets you there. Sorry you don´t have all the comforts of home. My Southern Winds plane was newer than the Delta flight down :rolleyes:
No offense, cause I love Argentina, but 3/4 of the flights I've had in that country would be considered amusement park thrill level in the U.S. On the other hand, two buses crashed head on killing 20+ on the route from BA to Mendoza when I was there, so I'm not sure how much better that option is (do they enforce the 5 hour limit for drivers w/o taking a break?)

[cj001f]

No offense, cause I love Argentina, but 3/4 of the flights I've had in that country would be considered amusement park thrill level in the U.S. On the other hand, two buses crashed head on killing 20+ on the route from BA to Mendoza when I was there, so I'm not sure how much better that option is (do they enforce the 5 hour limit for drivers w/o taking a break?)
The buses I´ve been on seem to obey the 5 hour limit, which is better than Chile. 1 driver, 13 hrs down the Carreterra Austral :eek:

I can´t say that any of my airline experiences have been thrill rides, LADE was the closest with the Boeing 707 and everything else.

You thought you were in the water at USH not because the aiports small, but because it´s built on an island in the middle of the Beagle channel. Awesome view of the mountains on the approach.

[Spats]

Aerolineas to Ushuaia was uneventful except for Southwest-sized seats.

Of course, I hadn't slept in 36 hours, so my recollection may be inexact.

http://www.ryan.net/~justin/tdfpics/12.JPG
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[nightpanda]

Aerolineas to Ushuaia was uneventful except for Southwest-sized seats.

Of course, I hadn't slept in 36 hours, so my recollection may be inexact.


I can verify those seats are ummmm compact and the sprite also tasted weird.

EDIT: the plane seemed new to me(turbines), only part where I became a little worried was when I just woke up and because airport is so tiny(2 terminals: 1 for departures, other for arrivals) it appeared to me that we were landing into water.

[Arty50]

It´s a plane, it gets you there. Sorry you don´t have all the comforts of home. My Southern Winds plane was newer than the Delta flight down :rolleyes:

No you don't understand. I don't mind small seats. I don't mind old upholstery. I really don't mind super hot stewardesses. :D But what I do mind is old planes that can't handle turbulence very well. When you're on approach, you're 200 feet off the ground, the plane is bouncing around worse than a 500 lb man's stomach on a diving board, and one second all you see is ground and the other second all you see is sky...you tend to be a little unhappy. It was complete barf-o-rama on the plane; and when I walked into the bathroom after we had miraculously landed, I noticed that someone had left skid marks on the seat...probably from shitting their pants. Yes, it was that bad. I'm not scared of flying; never have been. But I thought we were going to die on that plane.

[up an down]

i tore my right acl last week (grade 3 tear :mad: ) i was planning on participating in this summit, but alas it is not to be.. hope you guys and gals have a great one

[Greydon Clark]

Trying to incorporate some skiing into a multiple month South American trip. Hopefully I can be a part of the South American festivities. The Las Lenas apartments seem like a good dilly, aproximently $25 per night per bed. My lady friend and I will be arriving around Labor Day, a little late, but hopefully not too late.

Termas de Chillan sounds interesting, but appartently only to the Dude.

What is the likelihood of sucessfully shipping ski gear back to the State once I'm done skiing? Unlikely any South American hot dogs are going to want beat up tele gear.

[Squirrel99]

My lady friend and I will be arriving around Labor Day, a little late, but hopefully not too late.

That's within about 1 week of when Ms. Santa Rosa comes dancing in off the Pacific :D

[shamrockpow]

What is the likelihood of sucessfully shipping ski gear back to the State once I'm done skiing? Unlikely any South American hot dogs are going to want beat up tele gear.
Likelihood is pretty high. Cost is going to be outrageous. Estimates that I got for the DaKine double ski bag loaded up from Chile was about $250. As Splat has pointed out, locals really do appreciate gear donations and even our old stuff is newer than what a lot of folks ski on in SA.

[powderwhore]

Im going to try to go this year, but I'm buying a house around that time so it may not work out.

[splat]

What is the likelihood of sucessfully shipping ski gear back to the State once I'm done skiing? Unlikely any South American hot dogs are going to want beat up tele gear.

Wanna brighten some poor Argentinians day? Give him or her your beater equipment. I'll even tell you how to get to the southernmost refugio in the world where that gear will get you free lodging and endless appreciation.
Oh, and you'll never want to leave, either. Cause it's that cool.

[Mike Pow]

Heading down to Santiago on 20 August for my fourth summer trip south of the equator (fifth including a trip to NZ).

Headed down at this time on my previous three visits and had excellent powder in Portillo (2002), Las Lenas and Termas (2003) and Chapelco (2004).

Going the car hire route this time (travelling with 3 mates) to get the goods.

Will be there until 11 September and hoping to hit some or all of the following:

Valle Nevado - never been
Portillo - been twice before and had pow and great corn
Penitentes - never been
Las Lenas - as good as everyone says, but average when the Marte is closed
Caviahue - deserted, great terrain, superb hiking
Batea Mahuida - never been
Chapelco - had a great time in San Martin and Chapelco last summer. Very underrated resort with some sweet tree skiing
Catederal - never been
La Hoya - never been
Antillanca - never been
Pucon - never been
Termas - had a brilliant time here in 2003. Stayed in Las Trancas where I enjoyed a great Independence Day at Oliver's. Then skied pow for the next 3 days

Can't wait

This is a good site for info on S American skiing/riding Inter Patagonia (http://www.interpatagonia.com/ski/index_i.html)

[Yossarian]

you must have been at Termas when we were there... you weren't with one other buddy perhaps? hooked up with 3 americanos with a video cam for the first bluebird day of the storm, did you? Cause if so, I still have some shots of you guys around somewhere. I think I still even have your email address somewhere too. Hell, even if you're not that those guys, maybe I should write them, eh?

[Mike Pow]

Not me. I was out there with two mates. All three of us from the UK (1 boarder, Rich, and 2 skiers, Paul and I).

First day we were there it was snowing and blowing a gale up top. Did well to stay on the t-bar at times!

Got back to Las Trancas early afternoon and it was raining, so we decided to have a late lunch and a couple of bottles of vino at Oliver's.

During the course of our meal the rain turned to big fat flakes, so we tied one on early outside under the canopy enjoying a great lamb roast and dancing.

Bed by 9 and up for first tracks the next morning. Bluebird, light, untracked and mid-thigh deep. Classic.

PS how do you post images? Can I upload from my hard drive or does it have to be via a web site?

[Mike Pow]

Me at Oliver's restaurant on Chilean Independence Day 2003

Paul having hiked above the slow 2-man and dropped in headed back to base via the valley beside the river and hot springs.

Me headed back to base from Tres Marias

[up an down]

i think i have posted this info before in a thread last year, but for those who don't bother to search :p , here it is again.... my lodging connection for las lenas is
Sebastian Luna
E-mail Address(es):
yayaluna@hotmail.com

he was introduced to me as yaya, not sure what that nickname means in spanish.. anyway, he got me a bed in an apartment in the buildings where a lot of the employees/ locals live for $12 a night. the bedrooms have 1 or 2 bunkbeds each, and there is a small kitchen/living room. you get a chance to make some new friends and the price could not be beat by any other place close to the lifts. i think i may have received a discounted rate cause yaya is a friend of a friend, and i don't know what yaya is charging this year (yaya rents an apartment or 2 or 3 each season, then rents out beds by the month/week/night), but regardless, if you want a cheap bed you should contact him.
and, if anyone is wanting to stay in mendoza and wants a local contact, the friend of mine that introduced me to yaya is fede de lucia..
deluja@impsat1.com .. fede is a decent skier and works/lives in mendoza. he gets to las lenas as often as he can get away from work (he's an architect). i got in contact with him via another skiing site, met him in person my first night in las lenas in 2002. and by happy circumstance he was having a party that night.. one hell of a good time and many new friends were had/made that night,and it set the tone for a wonderful vacation.

[Meathelmet]

PS how do you post images? Can I upload from my hard drive or does it have to be via a web site?


Use theese in front of the pictre
And theese after the picture

and make sure that you have an address that ends in the right address, usually .jpg.



http://tetongravity.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5335

http://tetongravity.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5336

http://tetongravity.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5337

in this case it does not end in .jpg but just a "attacmentid=5335...etc".



Btw, nice lines in the background in the last one.
I guess its no need to guess what tracks are made by skiers and wich one by a boarder.
Right?

[Merlyn]

So is there gonna be a SA summit or not?

My gf and I arrive in Buenos Aires on Aug 15 and leave Santiago Sept 3. Our plan is to head down to Bariloche and work our way north to Las Lenas, We'd be happy to hook up with some maggots for some turns. Or for some beer. We're hoping to do some bc touring as well as hitting the lifts.

Quick question - it looks like most of the Las Lenas accomodation packages are for 7 days. We're not planning on staying in one place for too long since we don't have a lot of time and we want to cover as much ground as possible - is it possible to find a place in LL to crash for only 2 or 3 days?

up an down - your Las Lenas contact sounds promising. Thanks for posting that.

[Meathelmet]

This is some price tables that i got from Santiago Cara,From Karen Travel.

What kind of prices are theese?

Cheap,Ripof? Dont know the prices around there...



Valle de las Leñas – Argentina - 2005
Aparts rent - Buildings Atenas, Tebas, Corinto & Esparta
Super Off-Season Off-Season Mid-Season Season
27th August 2nd July 9th July
18th june 3th September 30th July 16th July
25th june 10th September 6th August 23th July
4th sep. To end 17th September 13th August
. 20th Agosto

Aparts Rent for 1 week
2 beds 1100 1250 1400 1800
2 beds Studio 1500 1600 1800 2400
4 beds Studio 1800 2000 2300 2700
4 beds Duplex 2000 2200 2500 3000
5 beds 2300 2500 3000 3200
5 beds 2 bath 2500 2900 3400 3800
6 beds 2 bath 2900 3400 3800 4400
7 beds 2 bath 3400 3800 4200 4800
7 beds 2 bath VIP 3900 4400 5000 5500
The aparts have free sauna bath and hidromassage with charge
Dormi house rent for 1 week:
3 beds 1 room 1200 1350 1500 2200
5 beds 1 room 2000 2200 2500 3000
6 beds 2 rooms 2300 2500 2900 3500
8 beds 2 rooms.-2 bath 3000 3350 3800 4100

The prices are expressed in argentinian pesos (USD 1 = $arg 3.-
The rent includes full kitchenette equipment and daily maid services


Ski Lifts Prices Adult. / Child Adult / Child Adult / Child Adult / Child
7 days ski lifts $ 410 - 287 $ 410 – 287 $ 552 - 393 $ 635 – 452
5 days from Monday to Friday $ 270 - 216 $ 270 - 216 $ 356 - 285 $ 411 – 328


The prices are current until april 2005- (?)


do not have any Los Molles prices yet, but I have ones from Las Leñas. So far, I attach information about Las Leñas accommodations and as soon as I have Los Molles rates I will write you.


What he said too, so the prices should apply for the onwards from april, not untill...


And up-and-down,thanks for the mail addresses.
Have to try out that one.

[dude_le_skibum]

as long as i am the only one to think its good, its good.

[Squirrel99]

So is there gonna be a SA summit or not?

My gf and I arrive in Buenos Aires on Aug 15 and leave Santiago Sept 3. Our plan is to head down to Bariloche and work our way north to Las Lenas, We'd be happy to hook up with some maggots for some turns. Or for some beer. We're hoping to do some bc touring as well as hitting the lifts.

Quick question - it looks like most of the Las Lenas accomodation packages are for 7 days. We're not planning on staying in one place for too long since we don't have a lot of time and we want to cover as much ground as possible - is it possible to find a place in LL to crash for only 2 or 3 days?

up an down - your Las Lenas contact sounds promising. Thanks for posting that.

Sorry- Las Lenas only does Sat-Sat bookings. That is the entire valley. Their is a new hostel in Las Lenas that might be different (or Los Molles down the road). The name is something like Cilex, I think.

I'm still planning on going, but now looks like more of a mid august to late august time frame. Work is screwing with my plans so I won't have it firmed up until early June.

[cj001f]

My gf and I arrive in Buenos Aires on Aug 15 and leave Santiago Sept 3. Our plan is to head down to Bariloche and work our way north to Las Lenas?
You might try heading to Las Lenas first, down to Bariloche, then up the Chilean side. There´s not much between Barilo and Las Lenas (San Martin de Los Andes being the only place of note), and no major border crossings. You´ll be spending alot of time on the road. Enjoy.

[Meathelmet]

You might try heading to Las Lenas first, down to Bariloche, then up the Chilean side. There´s not much between Barilo and Las Lenas (San Martin de Los Andes being the only place of note), and no major border crossings. You´ll be spending alot of time on the road. Enjoy.


How is the life down there?

Still enjoying the beef and life?

Give us a flash!

[splat]

So is there gonna be a SA summit or not?

My gf and I arrive in Buenos Aires on Aug 15 and leave Santiago Sept 3.


Merlyn - CHANGE YOUR DATES! The Santa Rosa storms come during or after the first week of September.
I've gotten powder-skunked the last two years in a row by leaving on the 8th.

Serially.

Good hotel in BA - The Dazzler.

[Mike Pow]

Thanks Meathelmet.

Yeah, the straight line and the big carve are the snowboarders' lines (we met a Chilean riding on his own when we got over there).

[cj001f]

How is the life down there?
Lifes good. There be snow in the mountains :cool: Of course Im in Paraguay, so theres not snow nearby, but.....

Depending on your age and inclinations youll have much more fun at a hostel in BA. The Milhouse being party central.

[comish]

So it is looking highly likely that I will have the last couple weeks of August to play and plan to return to Argentina / Chile. I would be seriously stoked to meet up with people for any or all parts of the trip. Anyone heading down that time that wouldn't mind another let me know! Very psyched as its been >10 years since I was last down there!

Splat, figures. last year I could do September and you guys went in August, now you are pushing September. ;) I gots to return to "real life" and my new job in September...

[Squirrel99]

So it is looking highly likely that I will have the last couple weeks of August to play and plan to return to Argentina / Chile. I would be seriously stoked to meet up with people for any or all parts of the trip. Anyone heading down that time that wouldn't mind another let me know! Very psyched as its been >10 years since I was last down there!

Splat, figures. last year I could do September and you guys went in August, now you are pushing September. ;) I gots to return to "real life" and my new job in September...

I think a little SA pow-wow in Mammoth this week would be a good idea :biggrin: I'll bring the "magic book" as Arty calls it. And yes- looks like it could be August for me this year- plans changing with work :mad: I'll know more by the end of May.

[comish]

Unfortunately I'm a no show at the one summit thats basically local for me. Made it to JH and Utah, but am going to be in NYC this weekend. Damn!

Keep in touch on SA because I'm solo at the moment and its definitely Aug for me as I start work in Sept. Have fun this weekend!

[PNWbrit]

27th August for one week

[Merlyn]

Merlyn - CHANGE YOUR DATES! The Santa Rosa storms come during or after the first week of September.
I've gotten powder-skunked the last two years in a row by leaving on the 8th.

Serially.

Good hotel in BA - The Dazzler.

Pat - Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, between my work schedule, my gf's work schedule, family weddings, etc., etc., Aug 14 to Sept 3 is the only time that works for us. Maybe the Santa Rosa storms will come early ... :rolleyes:

[Yossarian]

HEY YOU SA FOOS!

I need you to keep an eye out for my friend Kim from Jackson. She's headed to Mendoza this Wed, then has vague plans to get to LL for starters. Very capable world traveler, but first timer in Argentina. Looking for good peeps to hang with.

Oh yeah, bonus round: she's very cool, quite hot, and she rips. Rides Pistols.

Keep an eye out, introduce yourself if ya spot her, and try not to scare her away! ;)

[comish]

Is this the friend that we bumped into during the summit. One of your friends came up to us and asked if we were maggots and if we were going over there, pointing to Cody. She was supposed to find a bill and ???

If so, she was very cool girl.

[Yossarian]

Nope, different friend. That was katie, aka Travlenpup; she hung with Basom and Arty and others for a day or two, I think. This one is Kim. Doesn't really know about the interweb thing, probably doesn't want to. More of an in-person, in-real-life, in-the-moment type than us weirdos.

And yeah, Katie rocks.

[up an down]

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[The AD]

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I noticed airfare isn't included, though.

[Squirrel99]

Storms are lined up for Chile/ARG right now.
20 cm's today plus another 25-40cm's on the way by Tuesday... :biggrin:
Most of this from mid-mtn up, but it's a good start!

(I wish the sites would start updating with some totals)

[splat]

Squirrel - your enthusiastic jones doesn't miss a beat.

[The AD]

Thought this might be of interest to some:
http://www.skipressworld.com/us/en/daily_news/2005/05/extremely_canadian_gears_up_for_las_lenas.html?cat =Adventure

Las Lenas, Argentina (Ski Press)-For the past 3 years, Extremely Canadian clients have migrated south to Las Lenas, Argentina for their guided, all-inclusive World Tour ski trips, and without fail, Mother Nature has been very, very good to them.

Each year the fabled Santa Rosa storm rolls in as their plane hits the runway, blessing the resort with deep freshies on incredible terrain. Whether Extremely Canadian sold their soul to the devil or just knows how to find good skiing, the important thing is they’re returning again this year, and you’re invited.

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 Seven nights shared lodging at the four star Escorpio Hotel
 Breakfast and dinner while at the Escorpio Hotel
 Six days resort skiing, Extremely Canadian guiding and coaching
 Eight day lift pass

Trip Prices/Dates:
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Special rate available for multiple week trips.

FOMO: www.extremelycanadian.com.

[comish]

Oops, posted original thread in ski talk or whatever its called.

I'm booked from Aug 8th to the 24th! I'm looking to hook up with any maggots down there as I will traveling solo and looking for touring partners.

Psyched!

[squeakygonzalez]

All I know is LL is going to go off this year as there is a ton of snow there now and more on the way the next 3 days in the forecast, another 40 cms!
Check out the photo of the Escorpio hotel by the base.

I saw some q's about non 7 day stays and it can be easily done but not so easily or even at all in resort during high season periods like July 9-30. Los Molles is a great short term budget place and there is info on www.laslenasski.com in the apartment section.

Suerte

[squeakygonzalez]

Yossarian, tell your friend to contact me if she is liek there now.

She wants to

1.In Mendoza to to the Damajuana Hostel www.damajuanahostel.com.ar as they are so cool there and will help out. If hse has any probs or super help tell her to ask for Rasta Max or Kiki the owner.

2.In Las Lenas right now I have friends that have rented for the season and know they have a bed there openiing day until at least July 7 and the people who are in it are cool Argentineans and good friends

[up an down]

the latest email from andesweb.........

Dear Andes Snow Enthusiast,

After several fall snowstorms, El Colorado opened on Friday, May 20.
For
opening weekend, the resort had the double treat of light powder and
bluebird skies. Termas de Chillan also opened for the season during the
weekend. Check out the weekend photos of El Colorado and Valle Nevado
(planning to open on June 10). Forecasts call for more heavy snow this
week. Other South American resorts should offer great conditions on
their
announced June openings. Snowfall has been particularly heavy in
southern
regions. Termas de Chillan already reports a 2 meter base. Cerro
Catedral
in Bariloche is reporting some of its deepest May snowfalls in years.

Look to www.andesweb.com for the latest information on snow conditions
for
the 2005 season. Also visit for the latest, articles and reviews. You
may
also wish to sign-up for free and take part in the active AndesWeb
online
community at:

http://www.andesweb.com/bb

Cheers. -Brian and the AndesWeb team

[drjabberwocky]

Hello,

Sorry if you have read this post on other lists but i just found this one which seems to be the real deal. Anyway, I am looking for someone to ski with in South America this season so if you are interested please email me (pweiland@usc.edu). I have never been there before and know only basic basic spanish so this is why I am trying to find a partner. I am a 22 year old recent graduate from the Univeristy of Southern California born and raised in Chicago. I am a decent skier and want to become killer this summer in SA. I've only done backcountry skiing two or three times so I'm pretty unexperienced with off-piste and have mainly been a vacation skier my whole life. If you are intersted please get in touch with me soon!

To the more experienced skiers on this list, do you think Las Lenas is the right place for me. I starting to think my eyes might be bigger than my stomach. Can a upper level intermediate skier have a good time there? I would love to get in touch with an experienced SA skier who could give me some advice. Thanks a ton!

-Pete

[Squirrel99]

Tyrone/Arty/LPH/Girlski - Check youse' emails :biggrin:

Dr. Jabberwocky/Pete- sorry, we don't have space in the condo, but would be more than happy to provide some hospitality in early September if you make it down to LL. Feel free to shoot me a PM if you got any ???. I dropped in solo my first trip to SA and was one of the best trips I've ever made.

[up an down]

the latest email from andesweb ..................


The second weekend of June has brought a major snowstorm to South
American
resorts. This means great opening weekend conditions La Parva, Valle
Nevado, and Corralco. These openings are in addition to El Colorado,
Termas de Chillan and Chapelco, which opened in May. Most other resorts
will start turning lifts later this month with excellent snow
conditions.
You can check out opening weekend photos of El Colorado at
http://www.andesweb.com. Also available are pre-seson pictures of Valle
Nevado and Portillo. Snowfall has been particularly heavy in southern
regions. Termas de Chillan already reports a 2 meter base. Cerro
Catedral
in Bariloche is reporting some of its deepest May snowfalls in years.

Look to www.andesweb.com for the latest information on snow conditions
for
the 2005 season. Also visit for the latest, articles and reviews. You
may
also wish to sign-up for free and take part in the active AndesWeb
online
community at:

http://www.andesweb.com/bb

Cheers. -Brian and the AndesWeb team

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Booked.

Sept. 1st - 12th.

Lenas.

See you sucka muckas there.

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

[Squirrel99]

Booked.

Sept. 1st - 12th.

Lenas.

See you sucka muckas there.

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

Booyeah! :biggrin:

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the plentiful snow seems to have the andesweb team rather excited. emails keep coming every other day..........

Las Lenas, Argentina

It snowed 166 inches! Yes, it dumped in the High Andes and Las Lenas got the best out of it! This season 2005 the ski resort will have more snowmaking facilities, new terrain opened for snowcat skiing and a new hotel: The deluxe Virgo hotel is located right next to the lifts. All this and the largest lift-accessed off-piste terrain on the planet awaits you.





Portillo, Chile

This well-known resort received 155 inches and is ready for an incredible season. The 2005 season brings the classic Special Weeks and renovations in the Grand Hotel including rooms, the living room area and the yoga lounge. More snowmaking facilites and two new grooming machines are in the list of the 2005 Portillo news. Note: It is snowing right now!







Catedral, Argentina

Catedral Alta Patagonia claims to be the most developed ski resort in South America. They trully are. With 4 news lifts more terrain will be covered and lines will be a memory. Also heli-skiing is available in Bariloche. Give it a try and combine the best views in the Andes with the most professional heli-operation in Argentina. Report: Snowing! Total: 94 inches.






Valle Nevado, Chile

Together with La Parva and El Colorado they will open early this year: June 10th is the time!! Following the 55 inches they received 2 weeks ago, they got almost 2 feet during the past few days and it still is snowing! Total: 102 inches! This year two new helicopters will be flying and some of the best heli-skiing in South America will be available for you.









POWDER DREAMS TOUR
Get to ski the best ski resorts in the Andes!!

Includes
Up to 14 days on the slopes!
Portillo, Valle Nevado, La Parva, El Colorado and Las Lenas!
All accommodation, lift tickets, all transfers and flights!
Winery visit, complimentary snowcat rides and more!
Most meals included and a special dinner in Mendoza!



Prices on a double
base occupancy
starting at
US$ 3,850
per person









VALLE NEVADO - Early Season Special Deal!!

Includes
7 night lodging at the Puerta del Sol Hotel.
All meals included: Breakfast, lunch and dinner.
8 day lift tickets.
Round trip transfer to Santiago.
1 free night in Santiago de Chile.



Prices starting at US$ 877 per person

Valid dates: June 17th - July 1st
Note: Price per person on a double valley view room. All taxes included. Price already shows the 50% discount. Rates subject to change without prior notice.








LAS LENAS - Gourmet Week!!

Includes
7 night lodging at the Piscis Hotel.
Access to the Gourmet Week special events.
Round trip flights from Buenos Aires.
8 day lift tickets.
1 free night in Buenos Aires.



Prices starting at US$ 1,746 per person

Valid dates: Aug 6th - Aug 13th
Note: Price per person on a double mountain view room. All taxes included. Rates subject to change without prior notice.








PORTILLO - Friends & Singles Week!!

Includes
7 night lodging at the Portillo Grand Hotel.
4 meals per day: breakfast, lunch, high tea and dinner.
8 day lift tickets.
Access to special parties.
1 free night in Santiago de Chile.



Prices starting at US$ 1,395 per person

Valid dates: Aug 20th - Aug 27th
Note: Price per person on a double valley view room. All taxes included. Price already shows the 50% discount. Rates subject to change without prior notice.










Thanks for your time and we hope to have you all coming to the Andes this summer. It looks like we have the best season in 8 years and more powder is on the way. For more information, quotations and reservations please contact us. We are ready to assit you putting your summer ski trip together!


Andes Ski Tours - Contact us
Web site: www.andesskitours.com / E-mail: info@andesskitours.com
Toll Free in the US & Canada: 1.866.265.1906
Toll Free in the United Kingdom: 0.800.032.9002

[up an down]

sounds like the SA resorts could be starting a winter that might be the best in their history...i've never recieved so many emails so often from andesweb


Dear Andes Snow Enthusiast,

May and June have been very good to South American Resorts. Last
weekend's
storms dropped up to a meter plus at most resorts, and it's still
snowing
again! Most resorts are now open. Check out new AndesWeb photos from
Valle
Nevado - on a snowy mid-June Friday at Valle Nevado:

http://www.andesweb.com/skichile/valle/050617Photos.htm

You can also look at opening weekend photos of El Colorado, or
pre-season
pictures of Valle Nevado and Portillo. All are available on the main
AndesWeb site. All the snow is making for mid-season base depths while
it´s still autumn.

Look to www.andesweb.com for the latest information on snow conditions
for
the 2005 season. Also visit for the latest, articles and reviews. You
may
also wish to sign-up for free and take part in the active AndesWeb
online
community at:

http://www.andesweb.com/bb

To contact AndesWeb, please visit the feedback form at:
http://www.andesweb.com/email/email.html

See you on the slopes! -Brian and the AndesWeb Team
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