New Crank Bros post. Hmm. i dunno...

[rideit]

http://www.bikemag.com/gear/crankbrothers-releases-its-kronolog-height-adjust-seatpost/

[Canada1]

Then I thought about the price of the first rock hopper I bought back in 1986 and it was just $50 more than that seat post.

[Crampedon]

I miss my hite-rite :)

Like all Crank Bros. products, give it year on the market then buy something else.

Ridit, PM me for a magdeal on a S blacklite, I have a few in stock.

[rideit]

a what? S blacklite?

These just don't scream 'me'
http://www.mydesignerbrands.com/basu00sqfjbl.html

[NuMexJoe]

With respect to function & execution, it looks like a new&improved All Mountain Post. But $300?

[bagtagley]

Cable actuated. Check
Adjustable air spring. Check
Static cable mount. Check

Made by CB. Fuck

[rideit]

Pre-cisely

[beast]

Rode it. Liked it.

http://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/First-Look-crankbrothers-kronolog-Adjustable-Seatpost,3283/Slideshow,0/bturman,109

We'll see how she does over an extended period of time...

[Crampedon]

a what? S blacklite?

These just don't scream 'me'
http://www.mydesignerbrands.com/basu00sqfjbl.html

You could rock those glasses!

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBCEqProduct.jsp?spid=61089

[marshalolson]

With respect to function & execution, it looks like a new&improved All Mountain Post. But $300?

seriously? how much, exactly, do you think these things cost?

specialized command blacklite: $275
rockshox reverb: $375
kind shox LEV: $395
kind shox i950: $365
gravity dropper turbo: $300

$300 MSRP is right where that thing should be.

[Phall]

damn it. I was set on a Lev, now I am not sure.

[DirkaDirkaJack]

rode one for a few rides. worked well enough....i would buy it...

[Roxtar]

I LOVE the design.
Extremely simple, basically a pipe clamp with a cable to loosen the "quills"
Love the flats on the main post to keep things straight. Just a great all around design.
Like Marshalolsen, I think the price is cheap, especially considering it's a total new design.

[toast2266]

I wonder if over time the post will develop "notches" where the mechanism engages the inner shaft.

[Arty50]

With respect to function & execution, it looks like a new&improved All Mountain Post. But $300?

I love my AMP. Thanks, bags!!! Really pissed at FSA for not doing anything with it after they bought Precision Cycling.

[VTsession]

seriously? how much, exactly, do you think these things cost?

specialized command blacklite: $275
rockshox reverb: $375
kind shox LEV: $395
kind shox i950: $365
gravity dropper turbo: $300

$300 MSRP is right where that thing should be.

I think I speak for NuMexJoe when saying that all the dropper posts are big money. I understand the functionality of a dropper post but the MSRP of any of them is hard to swallow. If you show me a dropper post around the $200 range, then I can see getting one. Until then I'll stick with my Thomson.

[LeeLau]

Who will drink the koolaid and guinea pig this fine new CB product with cold hard cash. Freebies don't count - myself included

[eldereldo]

Must not look...

[Arty50]

I think I speak for NuMexJoe when saying that all the dropper posts are big money. I understand the functionality of a dropper post but the MSRP of any of them is hard to swallow. If you show me a dropper post around the $200 range, then I can see getting one. Until then I'll stick with my Thomson.

Once you get an auto ball slapper you can never go back.

[VTsession]

Once you get an auto ball slapper you can never go back.

Well when you put it that way.....

[marshalolson]

I think I speak for NuMexJoe when saying that all the dropper posts are big money. I understand the functionality of a dropper post but the MSRP of any of them is hard to swallow. If you show me a dropper post around the $200 range, then I can see getting one. Until then I'll stick with my Thomson.

i hear you. $100 vs. $300. i totally get it.

but dude, those thomson design files where written, what almost 20 years ago? its $5 worth of aluminum, and a design that has not changed... ever. and its still $100. look at the design, R&D, tooling, materials, small parts, increased warranty, customer service etc required on a dropper post. 3x compared to something as simple as straight aluminum post is a great price. i mean an alloy rigid fork is $79.99. a lyrik is $900. a lyrik has baically the same moving parts and number of seals and such as a reverb. just saying.

[beaterdit]

Looks pretty damn slick. I'll be keeping my eye on this for when my KS wears out or blows up.

[ZomblibulaX]

I wonder if over time the post will develop "notches" where the mechanism engages the inner shaft.

^This. Its just a pipe clamp (http://www.fine-tools.com/pipeclamp1.jpg). The shaft'll get chewed up for sure, but I guess it should be easy enough to replace that seal.

It looks to address 'most' of the issues that people had with the Joplin. Still would like to see a two-bolt seat clamp, though.


...those thomson design files where written, what almost 20 years ago? its $5 worth of aluminum, and a design that has not changed... ever. and its still $100.

Which is why its so great for retailers. No new product, no reason to put it on sale. The Kronolog, OTOH, will probably be $200 on ebay by christmas.:)

[Hugh Conway]

$300 is alot to pay for a buttplug. Fuck Crank Brothers and their shitty products.

[Crampedon]

i hear you. $100 vs. $300. i totally get it.

but dude, those thomson design files where written, what almost 20 years ago? its $5 worth of aluminum, and a design that has not changed... ever. and its still $100. look at the design, R&D, tooling, materials, small parts, increased warranty, customer service etc required on a dropper post. 3x compared to something as simple as straight aluminum post is a great price. i mean an alloy rigid fork is $79.99. a lyrik is $900. a lyrik has baically the same moving parts and number of seals and such as a reverb. just saying.

Truth! Overpriced boutique seatpost that BREAKS.

And this.... ( I only sell their cleats in my store so I don't lose shoe sales, nothing else)


$300 is alot to pay for a buttplug. Fuck Crank Brothers and their shitty products.

And this...


Cable actuated. Check
Adjustable air spring. Check
Static cable mount. Check

Made by CB. Fuck



LAST thing you want is a $145 dropper post that fails on a ride.

Spend the money on one that has a warranty through an IBD! (like me!):)

[Krash]

but dude, those thomson design files where written, what almost 20 years ago? its $5 worth of aluminum, and a design that has not changed... ever. and its still $100.

More like $15 for a 18" long piece of 1-1/2" square 6061 billet, plus the top hardware pieces $10?, not to mention paying the skilled US worker to machine it into a beautiful seatpost, anodizing, laser etching, packaging, shipping, retail markup.

Damn good deal if you ask me

And $300 for a dropper is a damn good deal too

[DirkaDirkaJack]

Who will drink the koolaid and guinea pig this fine new CB product with cold hard cash. Freebies don't count - myself included

according to the all mighty lee lau, my opionon doesnt count, so nevermind.... :rolleyes:

[LeeLau]

according to the all mighty lee lau, my opionon doesnt count, so nevermind.... :rolleyes:


I didn't say that you sensitive svenska (I know I don't spell it correctly). If you will lay cold hard cash out for it then your opinion counts more than gear whores like myself who get bagloads of this shit (and I mean shit when I think of Crank Bros) to review.

[VTsession]

i hear you. $100 vs. $300. i totally get it.

but dude, those thomson design files where written, what almost 20 years ago? its $5 worth of aluminum, and a design that has not changed... ever. and its still $100. look at the design, R&D, tooling, materials, small parts, increased warranty, customer service etc required on a dropper post. 3x compared to something as simple as straight aluminum post is a great price. i mean an alloy rigid fork is $79.99. a lyrik is $900. a lyrik has baically the same moving parts and number of seals and such as a reverb. just saying.

Very true. The R&D alone that goes into one must not be easy or cheap. I'll end up getting one eventually, I'll rationalize the price. I said the same thing about full suspension bikes a few years ago. Here I am on a fancy, expensive 6 inch trail bike.

[NuMexJoe]

Marshal, my point was not so much that $300 is out of line, but rather that, given CB's poor reputation due to the issues with the Joplin, they might have been advised to initially make the price point at or lower than the less expensive options like the Blacklight and the Giant Contact and try to gain back some market share. Were I shopping (and I'm not, being satisfied with my AMP and GDropper), given that price, I'd stay away until the new post is proved to be sufficiently robust and reliable. Seriously.

seriously? how much, exactly, do you think these things cost?

specialized command blacklite: $275
rockshox reverb: $375
kind shox LEV: $395
kind shox i950: $365
gravity dropper turbo: $300

$300 MSRP is right where that thing should be.

[marshalolson]

the joplin totally sucked ass. it was designed by maverick, and licensed by crank bros. they did not engineer it. small distinction, but a valid one, IMO.

[Particle]

Cool design, I'd rock one but the deal breaker for me is the height of the mechanism that sits above the collar. My HD has a tall seat tube and I like to slam my Reverb all the way to the bottom occasionally. If I had a frame with a lower seattube, I'd totally guinea-pig that thing.

[marshalolson]

More like $15 for a 18" long piece of 1-1/2" square 6061 billet, plus the top hardware pieces $10?, not to mention paying the skilled US worker to machine it into a beautiful seatpost, anodizing, laser etching, packaging, shipping, retail markup.

Damn good deal if you ask me


ha, sorry, $15 not $5 worth of alu.

but that is my point. thomson's are worth every nickel, and are priced exactly where they should be priced.

the point was ~$15 in raw materials = $100 retail. does anyone really think that the raw materials alone in a dropper post are only $45?

there is a ton more stuff going on in a dropper, they should be a ton more expensive.

[Jethro]

Any opinions on fixed vs variable settings for seat posts? I have a 2009 Spec Command post with low,med and high settings, and it has worked well for me. It lost air pressure when new but Specialized fixed it for free. Are infinite adjustment lengths really a plus over what I have, or is such a post too complex?

[frorider]

I like the variable settings on the reverb. other than the reliability issues, it works well from a performance perspective.

mechanical posts can be kinda clunky but this CB post seems to mimic the smooth pistonic action (yeah baby) of the hydraulics. i'm not going to be the guinea pig, but i'll be watching the reports from the guinea pigs with interest.

the market has spoken & is willing to shell out 300+ for a decent post. posts have much of the same technology as forks, and the market appears fine with MSRPs of 900 to 2 grand for higher end forks. the CB post appears reasonably priced for the market...arguably on the cheap side, taking into account the ano bling.

[funkendrenchman]

I'll let everyone else test it out. CB has a pretty piss poor reputation when it come to quality. If the majority are still working by August, I'll consider it. Hell, I'd pay $400 for a Reverb that worked for 2 years straight.

[Big E]

What about a Thomson dropper post then? Seems to be in the works...

http://bikethomson.com/droppost/

[rideit]

That's gonna be the one to watch. Can't wait to see pics.

[Hugh Conway]

does anyone really think that the raw materials alone in a dropper post are only $45?

yes.....

[rideit]

How much do you think the machines (and people) cost to turn those materials into a dropper post?

[Bobcat Sig]

I just saw this over on Pinkbike and I immediately wanted one. On the flipside, I was also enamored by the Joplin. Even still, from what the video shows and the description shows, plus Marshal's insight on what the Joplin really was, I have a bit more confidence in this. Me thinks I'll be ordering one soon.

[Hugh Conway]

How much do you think the machines (and people) cost to turn those materials into a dropper post?

made in China like most of the other stuff, right? so not so much $ for the people part....

[jqualls]

IMO pretty much all mountain bike equipment is over priced. I still pay for it and enjoy most of what I buy but the fact that you can get a dirt bike for the same price as a high end mountain bike is a hard concept for me to wrap my brain around. But thats just my .02

[Roxtar]

General guideline are that if your bill of materials is more than 15% of your retail price, you're losing $. Especially on a product with a lot of labor involved, say, like a dropper seatpost.

[rideit]

economy of scale and the weight/price/durability connundrum.
yes, it really is that simple.
Plus life cycle and number of units produced in one design to manufacture run in moto vs. Mt. bike (maturity of tecnology).
Oh, and the relative size of moto manufacturers, and their other industrial conglomerates that give them tremendous buying power and other logistical advantages, from marketing to packaging.

[Roxtar]

My favorite quote from Keith Bontrager, "Light, strong, cheap; pick any two"

[Arty50]

What about a Thomson dropper post then? Seems to be in the works...

http://bikethomson.com/droppost/

Nice! Just a couple of weeks ago I was thinking, "I wonder why Thomson hasn't jumped in this market yet?" I'll pay very good money for one of those. Hell, their seat clamp alone is worth its weight in gold. Everything else I've seen fucking sucks and is prone to bending/breakage.

[bagtagley]

economy of scale and the weight/price/durability connundrum.
yes, it really is that simple.
Plus life cycle and number of units produced in one design to manufacture run in moto vs. Mt. bike (maturity of tecnology).
Oh, and the relative size of moto manufacturers, and their other industrial conglomerates that give them tremendous buying power and other logistical advantages, from marketing to packaging.

Not to mention the R&D that's gone into keeping the rear end from being a pogo-sticking POS when you pedal.

[toast2266]

ha, sorry, $15 not $5 worth of alu.

but that is my point. thomson's are worth every nickel, and are priced exactly where they should be priced.

the point was ~$15 in raw materials = $100 retail. does anyone really think that the raw materials alone in a dropper post are only $45?

there is a ton more stuff going on in a dropper, they should be a ton more expensive.

A while back I had a (drunken) discussion with a SRAM engineer about the cost of producing derailleurs. He'd been working on a low end electronic shifting system, but said that it wasn't viable to bring to market because the raw materials costs something like $4, which ended up working out to a retail price well into the $100's. I think he said an XO derailleur was about $2 worth of materials.

[gonehuckin]

I believe it to be a significant advancement in drop style posts. While I can't take credit for anything more than helping bring it to the retail stores' shelves, I've been beating up on mine for a few months and its held up with no issue. When set-up properly, I haven't seen a production model have an issue yet (including final field testing and lab testing). The goal is that its more durable, easier to maintain and has some style points. But more than anything, that it makes your ride more enjoyable.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I don't check here often any more but I'll keep my eye out towards my inbox.

[Hugh Conway]

economy of scale and the weight/price/durability connundrum.
yes, it really is that simple.
Plus life cycle and number of units produced in one design to manufacture run in moto vs. Mt. bike (maturity of tecnology).
Oh, and the relative size of moto manufacturers, and their other industrial conglomerates that give them tremendous buying power and other logistical advantages, from marketing to packaging.

It's not a conundrum - bike users are willing to overpay for some boutique name because it's a boutique name and generally lack sophistication - hence the proliferation and staying power of shitty manufacturers and shitty products.

[rideit]

Yes and no.

[Hugh Conway]

true. I should have said "retail badger" not "manufacturer"

[rideit]

thats a little closer.

[rideit]

Hmm. Told Ya so?
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/downhill/248780-new-seatpost-crank-brothers-7.html

[toast2266]

I wonder if over time the post will develop "notches" where the mechanism engages the inner shaft.

Apparently I was exactly wrong; instead of developing notches, it smoothes out the shaft to the point that it stops working.

Seems like everyone is totally shocked that Crank Brothers failed to properly execute an otherwise innovative idea.

[birdman829]

Yeah As soon as I read the pinkbike review I thought "duh, why wouldn't that happen". The idea of it being a set up issue is laughable. Steel grinding past a knurled aluminum surface, what could possibly be wrong with that? Seriously baffling that they built up so much hype only to fall flat on their face.

Link to PB review: http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Crankbrother-Kronolog-Telescoping-Seat-Post-Tested-2012.html

Detail photo of epic fail:
http://lp3.pinkbike.org/p4pb8073686/p4pb8073686.jpg

[Bean]

That's about as dumb as making tech inserts out of aluminum, safety factors aside. At least it'll fail up instead of down.

[LeeLau]

Hmm. Told Ya so?
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/downhill/248780-new-seatpost-crank-brothers-7.html

ditto. Crank bros is consistent

[Esses]

More negative reviews... http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/category/components/seat-post-seat-pin/product/review-crank-brothers-kronolog-46205


The post has also developed a bit of hesitation before it locks in at either full extension or full compression, and the bead-blasted and scored clamping surface on the front and back is starting to show wear as well. “That quill [stanchion] is 3D forged and has tons of QC [quality control] checks on it,” said Brewster. “The ones we have we’ve tested hardness and they’re all in spec. We hold that to a crazy tolerance standard."

However, he admitted: "The 'jammers' are a little more difficult.” Right now CrankBrothers are looking to the stamped, hardened, tumbled and plated steel locking plates as the possible cause of the accelerated wear. “We have someone in Taiwan working on this,” said Brewster, stressing that this issue would fall under CrankBrothers’ two-year warranty, without question.

At least they have someone in Taiwan working on it.

[lph]

had one on order. just cancelled it. gonna go reverb.

[beaterdit]

Check the new KS LEV. Looks to be the best of all worlds to me. Not cheap but...

[lph]

Check the new KS LEV. Looks to be the best of all worlds to me. Not cheap but...

Yeah, that looks pretty sweet. I have had problems with their customer service in the past, but now that they are mainstream in US market, it would hopefully be better.

150mm of travel. wow.

[reidhresko]

the new KS Lev definitely looks super fresh, but you can't beat RS customer service. Every post on the market has a 10-15% failure rate, so which company can get you a replacement as quickly and painlessly as possible is no small consideration. Plus, the reverb rocks.

The best product crank brothers ever made was a sticker. stay far away from the kronolog until CB deals with the already apparent manufacturing defects...

[Bean]

Every post on the market has a 10-15% failure rate
CB excepted...

KS LEV looks sweet, but I've gone without for so long I can wait a few more months to see how it shakes out against the Thomson.

[reidhresko]

CB excepted...

KS LEV looks sweet, but I've gone without for so long I can wait a few more months to see how it shakes out against the Thomson.

good point. their failure rate is probably above 50%. ha.

[rideit]

Man, I really, really want Thomson to knock it out of the park. Any and all other experiences with Thomson bits has simply been 'set and Forget' , I hope whatever they do meets that mark.

[Dickeymotto]

the new KS Lev definitely looks super fresh, but you can't beat RS customer service. Every post on the market has a 10-15% failure rate, so which company can get you a replacement as quickly and painlessly as possible is no small consideration. Plus, the reverb rocks.

Specialized's Command Post Blacklite is cheaper, lighter, and also has great customer service behind it. Also hear from a few people that they are pretty reliable. Worth checking out.


The best product crank brothers ever made was a sticker.

Except for the two pairs of pedals I've been rocking since 2005.

[Roxtar]

Except for the two pairs of pedals I've been rocking since 2005.2x.
I've been using CB pedals (beaters, mallets, and candies) on all my bikes since the first eggbeaters came out. Over ten years later, that first set is still working flawlessly on my XC rig.

[Dickeymotto]

2x.
I've been using CB pedals (beaters, mallets, and candies) on all my bikes since the first eggbeaters came out. Over ten years later, that first set is still working flawlessly on my XC rig.

So when exactly did CB's quality dive off a cliff? All I ever hear from anyone these days about them is that they suck and their products are junk that either doesn't work or breaks pre-maturely. When I started using CB pedals in 2005, all I ever heard about the brand is how clever, well designed, simple, and kickass their products were (pedals were about all they did back then), granted this was before I became an enlightened and all-knowling e-rider:wink:

So what happened? Did the company change hands or something? Something had to have gone really wrong to change the overall brand perception from awesome to terrible.

[toast2266]

A lot of their pedals had problems too. Lots of sloppy bushings, etc. For every person I know that has a pair that they've been happy with for years, I know another that gave up on them because they had so many problems.

[Dickeymotto]

A lot of their pedals had problems too. Lots of sloppy bushings, etc. For every person I know that has a pair that they've been happy with for years, I know another that gave up on them because they had so many problems.

If they've always been bad, how in the hell did they develop such a following? How are they still in business? They had to have been doing something right at some point because they are a mainstay in the market. It just doesn't make sense otherwise.

[toast2266]

My impression was always that a lot of people really like the pedals, aside from the premature wear issues. They're light, simple, have lots of float, and the basic pedal mechanism usually holds up alright (although I've seen a few explode). If you get a good pair or don't mind rebuilding them 1-2 times a season, they're good pedals.

I think CB has lots of good ideas that are often poorly executed. They're a mainstay in the market because most riders don't pay attention enough to realize that CB has developed a crappy reputation. It also helps that CB's products tend to hit a pretty competitive price point, which may also be a contributing factor as to why their stuff tends to fail.

[Hugh Conway]

They're a mainstay in the market because most riders don't pay attention enough to realize that CB has developed a crappy reputation. It also helps that CB's products tend to hit a pretty competitive price point, which may also be a contributing factor as to why their stuff tends to fail.

oh, it's this shit again. most "riders" don't ride enough for the pedals "poor quality" to really matter. most "reputations" spoken about online are bullshit and just the jerkoff meme dujour. see: tgr tech talk.

[phatfreeheeler]

I guess I'm also one of the people who's had amazing luck with CB pedals. I had one failure not due to me being a hack out of the 7 pair that I've had since 1999 and some of them probably have 6000-8000 miles of trail and/or road on them with doing almost ZERO maintenance. I did bend one early mallet but I hit a rock hard on a DH bike and did a lot of damage to me too. I ride less these days with a family, but I sure used to ride plenty of hours every week and still get more than many. I've ranged from 150-160lbs and maybe that's part of my success.

I'm bummed to see this failure mode appear on the Kronolog so quick, cause I was really wishing them well. Personally, I'll keep rocking the 3 Gravity Droppers I've got until someone else builds something as reliable. I'm surprised they didn't make that surface a thin pressed in piece of steel. Maybe the Lev will prove good cause I lost count of Reverb failures around me, so as nice as they work I'm not throwing money that way. Finger's crossed for KS.

[Daywalker]

Take this with a grain of salt as I've never used the pedals (where they originally built their good reputation) but it seems like they started off good in the early years and then they branched out into lower cost pedals utilizing stamped steel instead of cast steel or something like that. I think they differentiated the line with a "C" or an "SL". Maybe it was chromed vs. stainless? Whatever it was, the failure rate seemed to spike with those cheaper pedals being introduced.

People break the Ti's too, but any weight weenie part breaks, right?

[Hugh Conway]

I've owned several of the uber-cheap pedals for years with minimal problems.

Everything else I've ever touched of there's sucked.

[greasyslope]

CB does well because they have awesome design and advertising. They make everything look so neat and cool, but then it falls apart in no time. I've learned my lesson -no more CB for me!

[Finstah]

I think all these dropper posts are a bit over priced. I mean haven't $40 office chairs basically had this technology for like 50 years? But, that's how it goes with this sport - it's too expensive because not enough people do it, and not enough people do it because it's too expensive. Just like skiing ...

That being said I'm eagerly awaiting my first adjustable post - a Giant Contact Switch. It was the easiest for me to get, one of the most affordable on the market, and so far seems to be about as reliable as any of these things can be.

[powder11]

I've owned several of the uber-cheap pedals for years with minimal problems.

Everything else I've ever touched of there's sucked.

I'm riding mallets (got on the interwebz for $50) for two seasons now with no probs (knocking on wood), which is a lot longer than I ever got out of a shitmano pedal!

[Dantheman]

Does it strike anyone else as odd that this wear pattern is occurring so quickly without having shown up in their pre-release testing? Maybe the productions run of the clamp really was out of spec?

I can't help but crack up that people are immediately shitting on CB about this and cancelling orders, while RockShox gets a pass when nearly everyone who owned a 1st gen Reverb has had to get multiple replacements and some even had theirs fail in one ride.

[rideit]

I think its because of the piles of useless CB parts that are in even every bike shop in 'merica, and the relative lack of those parts from other major manufacturers. Ever see a CB headset, wheelset, or to pedals that weren't questionable in quality and durability?

[Dantheman]

Ever see a CB headset, wheelset, or to pedals that weren't questionable in quality and durability?

No experience with their headsets or wheels, been using their pedals for years with no complaints.

[Dickeymotto]

...or to pedals that weren't questionable in quality and durability?

Two pairs still going strong since 2005. I'd call that pretty damn durable. They've outlasted every other bike product I've ever owned.

[YourMomJustCalled]

Does it strike anyone else as odd that this wear pattern is occurring so quickly without having shown up in their pre-release testing? Maybe the productions run of the clamp really was out of spec?

I can't help but crack up that people are immediately shitting on CB about this and cancelling orders, while RockShox gets a pass when nearly everyone who owned a 1st gen Reverb has had to get multiple replacements and some even had theirs fail in one ride.

RockShox gets a pass 'cause it didn't release that aborted fetus, the Joplin.

[Arty50]

RockShox gets a pass 'cause it didn't release that aborted fetus, the Joplin.

Let's be fair. The Joplin was originially designed and sold by Maverick. CB just bought the rights to the POS from them.

[rideit]

Two pairs still going strong since 2005. I'd call that pretty damn durable. They've outlasted every other bike product I've ever owned.

Man, I can't even count the blown up, bent springs, and seal kits the shop went through from '03-'06'.

[El Chupacabra]

I tried, hated, and sold the CB eggbeater pedals --- don't remember which version they were. What I didn't like was that there was no spring tension adjustment, and I could pull my cleats straight out of the pedals.

I have a couple of Joplin 3 posts, and just stuck one on Mrs. C.'s bike. I had to send one back for a rebuild, but the rest are OK so far. I only went with these because they are available for so much less $ than the other dropper posts (Chainlove had them for awhile), and all of the different dropper posts seem to have reliability issues.

[Roxtar]

RockShox gets a pass 'cause it didn't release that aborted fetus, the Joplin.All the Reverb lovers here have short memories. There's a post somewhere on TGR that started with the release of the Reverb.
Talk about an abortion; countless problems, few held air, very loose, and most were shipped back multiple times.

[LeeLau]

I've now had the misfortune of having a Kronolog on a test bike

- post slips down about half an inch when sitting on it

- Needs fair amount of finger pressure to initiate the post

- Feels notchy and not smooth

- Returns abruptly.

Overall - it met expectations of being the oversold, overhyped piece of garbage that I expect from Crank Bros. Well done!

[beaterdit]

Bwahahahahaha! Awesome, and also, as expected.

[jetjess]

I have about 10 short rides (<6 miles) and maybe 5 longer rides (>15 miles) on my kronolog. I've had zero issues yet, but I figured I'd use it until it failed, then I'll take advantage of the warranty when it does. I doubt we'll see a bullet-proof dropper for a couple years.

[birdman829]

I think the owners of newer reverbs and ks posts would disagree with you on that

[marshalolson]

I doubt we'll see a bullet-proof dropper for a couple years.

you mean from crank brothers obviously.

2012 reverb = radical
ks = way good
gravity dropper = awesome

[jetjess]

you mean from crank brothers obviously.

2012 reverb = radical
ks = way good
gravity dropper = awesome

As you were, I'm hoping that CB makes a more reliable dropper in the next few years. I don't have any experience with any other mfg's. I'm also hoping mine won't shit the bed anytime soon, though I'm not selling the thompson just in case.