roolz

[TGR420]

We need to write the roolz here. Let them fly folks.

[Bent Gate Mountaineering]

TGR roolz ur face.

[nickwm21]

Thanks for the new forum. Hopefully it will help some of us out in the future.

[gunit130]

ok, i'll try to help out. i posted a thread here, but wasn't sure if it was in the right place.

Should we use this forum for job related questions or advice? or just for classifieds.

I personally don't think that it should be filled with retarded work related stories/issues, but asking for job advice seems good to me.

what does that sound like to everyone?

[XtrPickels]

I think it should be related to finding work. Posting positions, asking for advice etc etc. I do not see Rontele stories about slaying bathrooms as being worthwhile for here (although totally legit in the padded room).

I think its not worth it to shit on people's threads either... like the other bent gate thread became.

[Rooster]

•3 drink limit during lunch hour except Friday when work ends at lunch(11am)

•Tardiness will not be tolerated if it exceeds the 20 minute mark

•Smoke breaks will be limited to one every 1.5 hours unless severely hungover in which case more smoke breaks may be granted

•Pets are welcome at work unless they are included in the following list: emu, yak, donkey, sheep, chimp, woodpecker, snail, girlfriend, gimp

•No fuckin' whining

•On employee picnic day girlfriend must be scantily clad and drunken and of slutty nature

•Briefcases will be left at home, backpacks accepted

•No suits

•If you're going to toke up at work, you must bring enough for everyone

This is a starter list please feel free to add any rules you deem appropriate.

Thankyou,
the Management
:fuckyou::fuckyou:

[samthaman]

How about some prefix to denote if a post is about a person looking for a job or a company looking for an employee? Sort of like how NSFW lets you know what you shouldn't open up at work.

Might help filter through stuff.

[TGR420]

How about some prefix to denote if a post is about a person looking for a job or a company looking for an employee? Sort of like how NSFW lets you know what you shouldn't open up at work.

Might help filter through stuff.

This is a good idea.

[SuperDuperGaperWithaCherryOnTop]

We need to write the roolz here. Let them fly folks.

How about being civil to the employers? Ie if a female executive from k2 posts a ad looking for people to test their skis someone doesnt tell her to show her tits or get the fuck out. Or some guy with a avatar that says "I will rape you" starts cursing her out in all caps.

[Tye 1on]

The one un-unruly forum on the board. Frank discussions of work experiences and goals, but flame-free somehow. Two designators for actual ads: WORK: for, like, wanna do this shit? LACK: for, like, might want to do this shit.

am i hired?

[gunit130]

^^^ that seems like a good move. Although, I wouldn't mind seeing a chick's tits from K2...

It seems like this should maybe be a professional's forum? Safe For Work (SFW) ONLY. No posting porno jobs, or drug running jobs.

-- Oh yeah, thanks for creating this forum. Over the years I've spent checking this place out, I've come to appreciate what TGR does for their fans more and more everyday. I really appreciate it, as I'm sure others do as well.

[Diesel]

To echo someone else's comment, how about jobs be posted with the (Job) or (work) prefix in the subject line, followed by the type of job, so if it's not in your field you can skip it. Seekers posting resumes: (Resume) and something about what they do and/or are hoping to do so that employers can filter through it.

I work for a large employer in Denver, and I handle recruiting for my office. We see some corporate types of positions (finance, HR, marketing, IT), but the bulk of our hiring is for our call centers which handle inbound and outbound sales and technical calls. They pay more than unemployment, and might be worthwhile to someone out there.

I guess I'm wondering if it makes sense for me to post these call center positions - would you guys even be interested? Or should I stick with the corporate type of roles? How many positions can/should I post before I'm accused of spamming?

In all honesty, I hesitate to put my employer's info on here, in the event that a thread bearing their name blows up on TGR. Because if that happened, I'd be posting my (Resume), rather than (Jobs). We need to find a way to keep it un-unruly.

I'm happy to help with any general job seeker feedback or advice as time permits.

[TGR420]

I think there are some good comments in here( and the standard jibberish). I think that the goal should be to present jobs and help people score them. I think that this should not be a place for tearing people apart. I agree that it should be SFW. Really when we all discussed it it was to be a cool resource. I really think if a mag scores a job or someone scores a great employee we have achieved the goal. I would vote for keeping it fairly focused so it is a tool that works. When we get a few of the key things maybe we can run a poll to see what makes the cut as acceptable.

[smmokan]

I guess I'm wondering if it makes sense for me to post these call center positions - would you guys even be interested? Or should I stick with the corporate type of roles? How many positions can/should I post before I'm accused of spamming?

I would say post everything you can (or want), as there's quite a range of professional and non-professional types on TGR. In terms of how many positions- I don't think anyone would consider it spam when you're asking people if they want a job.... just post 'em up.

[Parvo]

Rule #1: Blow Job or No Job

I've found this to be a helpful rule when interviewing possible candidates.

[Tye 1on]

To echo someone else's comment, how about jobs be posted with the (Job) or (work) prefix in the subject line, followed by the type of job, so if it's not in your field you can skip it. Seekers posting resumes: (Resume) and something about what they do and/or are hoping to do so that employers can filter through it.

I work for a large employer in Denver, and I handle recruiting for my office. We see some corporate types of positions (finance, HR, marketing, IT), but the bulk of our hiring is for our call centers which handle inbound and outbound sales and technical calls. They pay more than unemployment, and might be worthwhile to someone out there.

I guess I'm wondering if it makes sense for me to post these call center positions - would you guys even be interested? Or should I stick with the corporate type of roles? How many positions can/should I post before I'm accused of spamming?

In all honesty, I hesitate to put my employer's info on here, in the event that a thread bearing their name blows up on TGR. Because if that happened, I'd be posting my (Resume), rather than (Jobs). We need to find a way to keep it un-unruly.

I'm happy to help with any general job seeker feedback or advice as time permits.

i agree with smmokan, post up ditch digger jobs if you want to. That may be exactly what some mag is looking for...

And i would also prolly refrain from putting up much company info, but would do that more through pm/backchannel once bone fides have been established...

[Wildman]

This is a great new venue... thanks for creating it!
What about using the following TLAs (Three letter Acronyms) to differentiate whether an individual is seeking employment vs. when an employer is seeking to hire. Expanding upon what samthaman suggested earlier...

a few ideas:

ESW: Employer Seeking Worker or LTH: Looking To Hire

WSE: Worker Seeking Employer or LFW: Looking for Work

WTH: Want to Hire vs. WTW: Want to Work

NTH: Need to Hire vs. NAJ: Need A Job

...anyone of these ring true? other suggestions?

Any thoughts?

[TGR420]

This is a great new venue... thanks for creating it!
What about using the following TLAs (Three letter Acronyms) to differentiate whether an individual is seeking employment vs. when an employer is seeking to hire. Expanding upon what samthaman suggested earlier...

a few ideas:

ESW: Employer Seeking Worker or LTH: Looking To Hire

WSE: Worker Seeking Employer or LFW: Looking for Work

WTH: Want to Hire vs. WTW: Want to Work

NTH: Need to Hire vs. NAJ: Need A Job

...anyone of these ring true? other suggestions?

Any thoughts?

We should also have something for jobs that are not so long term and formal. For example, if someone needs help building a deck next weekend. It seems this should have its own categorization as it is more short term one off stuff.

[nugblaster]

We should also have something for jobs that are not so long term and formal. For example, if someone needs help building a deck next weekend. It seems this should have its own categorization as it is more short term one off stuff.

STW= Short Term Work

TW=Temporary Work

just suggestions...

[nugblaster]

keeping with the temp idea: FTW = For The Weekend (although that could be confused with For The Win, maybe it wouldn't in this forum? also may get more search hits but I guess that's not the point of this forum)

[Diesel]

i agree with smmokan, post up ditch digger jobs if you want to. That may be exactly what some mag is looking for...

And i would also prolly refrain from putting up much company info, but would do that more through pm/backchannel once bone fides have been established...

Hopefully I'll have some to post up tomorrow or over the weekend. So far the hardest thing on my end has been trying to convince my IT guy why I need access to TGR at work. :)

[Downbound Train]

No offense but what's with all the initials. ESW,WSE,WTH,NTH.... If someone needs a job and they don't have time to open all the threads to check'em out, they are lazy and unemployable.

[Wildman]

No offense but what's with all the initials. ESW,WSE,WTH,NTH.... If someone needs a job and they don't have time to open all the threads to check'em out, they are lazy and unemployable.

It was just a suggestion to communicate more with fewer words (like in gear swap).

[Diesel]

If we need a glossary to figure it out, it's too complicated.

[Tye 1on]

It was just a suggestion to communicate more with fewer words (like in gear swap).

Yeah, made sense at first, but watching the first few threads, maybe it's as easy as HIRING: or LOOKING:.

I'm more fired up about the discussion on how much 'chatter'/BS folks want to allow in these threads, as in the back 'n forth with skipup in the bentgate thread...

[schuss]

I'd go with HIRING/LOOKING, as it covers pretty much everything. I don't think you should have to post up company info either, as that can be handled via email/PM's if needed.
People should also be able to post nameless resumes, with the same followup rules.

[2nd mate]

sticky a resume thread. Then delete your resume when you get a jobby job? That seems pretty simple. A one stop shop(hate using and seeing that) for those lurking to hire. Maybe?

[Tye 1on]

sticky a resume thread. Then delete your resume when you get a jobby job? That seems pretty simple. A one stop shop(hate using and seeing that) for those lurking to hire. Maybe?

Some of the mods here are pretty lazy and wouldn't be too stoked about having to sticky/unsticky threads all the time...;)

[2nd mate]

I meant 1 thread and the posters would delte their post when hired.


oh i missed the ;) you just mudered me computerly.

[Tye 1on]

nah, you might have just meant 'post' instead of 'sticky', and it's a great suggestion...

[jm2e]

Per John Stewart:
New jobs are the third best kind of job.
Right behind Hand and Blow!

[jm2e]

How 'bout if a really complicated "Code" is used to make thread titles "easier" to interpret and filter.
Some suggestions:
1. If you need work, it could say something clever like, "I need work. I'm a carpenter"
2. If you know about a job it could have a secret code like, "Job available. Carpenter"
3. If you knew this guy who was hiring Maggot type labor it could have a special title like, "This guy I know is looking for workers. Maggot freindly."

This might be too complicated, and might require a stickied thread with all the acronyms and an ongoing key so that people could check in to learn the lingo before starting their search.

[deeppo]

•3 drink limit during lunch hour except Friday when work ends at lunch(11am)

•Tardiness will not be tolerated if it exceeds the 20 minute mark

•Smoke breaks will be limited to one every 1.5 hours unless severely hungover in which case more smoke breaks may be granted

•Pets are welcome at work unless they are included in the following list: emu, yak, donkey, sheep, chimp, woodpecker, snail, girlfriend, gimp

•No fuckin' whining

•On employee picnic day girlfriend must be scantily clad and drunken and of slutty nature

•Briefcases will be left at home, backpacks accepted

•No suits

•If you're going to toke up at work, you must bring enough for everyone

This is a starter list please feel free to add any rules you deem appropriate.

Thankyou,
the Management
:fuckyou::fuckyou:

Are you hiring?

[bklyn]

Skidog runs his own forum. Why not start a jobs board there, where he can dictate the rules?

Second hand, rumor based thread cunting sucks and ruins the atmosphere for potential employers.

Frankly, "free speech" should not be at the expense of "nothing to talk about" because no employers will want to post here.

[TGR420]

The general sentiment is that this will be moderated to keep it productive? That is my opinion.

[2nd mate]

A moderated, respectable, appropriate, jobs forum could really blossom and serve the community well. I dont envy the work of keeping the trolls out though.

[tex1230]

Just my 2 centavos, but This place needs very strict moderation. the abuse given to two of the early employer posts here is bullshit. As a job seeker, I want to see as many employers as possible post here. If someone has a serious beef with the employer, he could warn responders via pm or something like that. But if I were looking for employees, I wouldn't waste my time posting jobs in a forum where an anonymous keyboard cowboy can fling shit all over you with no proof and no consequences...

[kevok2]

This is like trying to conduct a formal dinner in a rowdy bar at happy hour. In any case I think it will be useful. Since the only employers who will be posting are maggots themselves, I don't think the inevitable trolling will be an issue--if you are serious about hiring or looking for a job, act the part and ignore the bullshit.

Edit: Horrible bump but this forum is empty anyway.

[arewolfe]

Great forum. I think most mags are able and willing to keep it tame in here.

[Atomic Vomit]

Here I thought it was a place to share enjoyment about lack of work?

You all suck. :fmicon:

That is all.