Want to fuck with someone?

[Bunion]

http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/mountain_bike_access_threatened_by_cyclists_own_ca rs/C564/L564/#comments

New-west article about Mtn Biking up in the ID panhandle.

The comment section has been hijacked by Mike Vand e man again.

Please read and feel free to flame away.

[skiergirl]

Ha! I posted the first we love MV comment!

And like the guys at MTBR, I suggest pulling his full name out of your comment Bunion. He gets off on spreading his seed around the interwebs and surely googles himself 3000 x a day.

[Bobcat Sig]

Seriously, who is that homeboy. Sounds like someone pissed in his cheerios. I've never seen (or read) someone who is so vehemently against mountain bikers...

[Aenigma]

Good god, that guy needs to get laid!

Does he actually live in northern Idaho? I'm in Kellogg in the summer, and from what I've seen very few of the trails were made by or for hikers. I've definitely encountered a few self-righteous hikers going UP the dh trails at Silver, saying that they were in the right...but that's another issue in itself. I just don't understand how you could ever feel it necessary to eliminate every user group from being outside.

[Bunion]

A simple google of who is Mike (insert douche bag name here) will give you a glimpse into his twisted world.

[Bobcat Sig]

A simple google of who is Mike (insert douche bag name here) will give you a glimpse into his twisted world.

I saw that. Homeboy really has it out for us pedalers. Makes someone wonder what other closures he had his fingers in.

[dumpy]

Yeah, I've run across this guy's posts in a few other places. I think his momma got raped by somebody on a mountain bike or something.

I love how he accuses people of turning to personal attacks against him without presenting any evidence, while he goes around characterizing all mountain bikers as arrogant land abusers and only has one study to show for it (vs. numerous other studies to the contrary that he wrote off because they were "done by mountain bikers").

He's an arrogant jackass with an agenda. Civil discussion and open debate are not concepts he is familiar with. Ignoring him is the best bet, he is of no use to society.

Looks like he may have been using an alias on that site as well.

This is one of the things I love about living in the Northeast, I see a mountain biker out on the trails, we stop and talk or at the very least say hi. I see a hiker out on the trails, same deal. And equestrians, hunters, etc. In most places around here the turf war is almost non-existent and we all get along. I did have one bow hunter get uppity once, but the guy was hunting in a small state forest that sees a fair amount of people, WTF did he expect? Most hunters I know who know anything about hunting do it on private land.

As far as this guy's claims about damage/erosion caused by bikes? Is it more than hikers? Yup, but by how much? Have I ever killed/ran over a small animal while riding? Not once. I always get off and walk around severely muddy/eroded areas, when I do this, I get an up close look at what tore up the trail. You know who does the most damage? Horses, hands down. Then foot prints (whether hikers, walking bikers, bird watchers, hunters etc), then the least number is bike tracks. FWIW, there are more bikers than equestrians at the main locale I ride.

[ectreeskier11]

http://evergreenmtb.org/php/show_page.php?page_id=32

fucking classic. can someone convince him to post in tgr? i think we might be the only ones able to silence the fucker, troll or not.

[rideit]

Ooohhhh...A proper TGR MV smackdown, complete with CL fat whores, free monkeys, poop under door handles, and a little Jesse Jones style photoshop...

[kidwoo]

Vandeman is an east bay wierdo who comes up with his own 'research' publications to justify his points.

Read them. They're really funny. There's more opinion than data in them by far.

He's definitely no surname/alias. I do believe that he's come accross some very aggressive mountain bikers. But he's also straight up tackled a few of them and then uses their reaction (which is at this point of course justified) as examples of brutish behavior within the sport. People in general, and specifically this kind of freak bring situations on themselves and conveniently ignore their own place in the process when someone gets aggressive.

Just keep in mind your (our) potential role in giving this moron fuel for his flimsy little fire.

And also be glad you don't live in the bay area of california where many people living in densly populated areas that completely destroyed the natural environment want to preach about preservation.

[ectreeskier11]

i just tried to post over there "inviting" him to post here, similar to the AZ style post. had to get moderator approval though so who knows if it'll make it on.

[dumpy]

i just tried to post over there "inviting" him to post here, similar to the AZ style post. had to get moderator approval though so who knows if it'll make it on.


If he does come here, we need to keep it civil, not act like jackasses (ie JJ photoshop) and do nothing, but provide valid evidence/logic that mountain biking is not nearly as destructive as he often claims.

Any low brow efforts will make him feel like he has won. We don't want that, it just encourages his diatribes and, in the eyes of some, gives his argument validity.

[toast2266]

If he does come here, we need to keep it civil, not act like jackasses

you stand against everything that makes TGR what it is.

[rideit]

Dumpy, your suggestion is pissing in the wind. I have engaged with this douchebag for ~15 years, all he is good for is clowning. He is here on this planet for our entertainment...he has been fully marginalized by the anti-mountain biking crowd as being a flaming kook many times over.

[dumpy]

Dumpy, your suggestion is pissing in the wind. I have engaged with this douchebag for ~15 years, all he is good for is clowning. He is here on this planet for our entertainment...he has been fully marginalized by the anti-mountain biking crowd as being a flaming kook many times over.

Ok, so they don't even stand behind the guy? I like that. Kind of like a lot of vegetarians that hate PETA.

What about gaining new converts who see his posts and think he is making a good point? Good PR is very important for trail access.

I know that it is nearly impossible to get through to the guy. I realize this much...

[ectreeskier11]

you stand against everything that makes TGR what it is.

seriously. if there's any online community that can make someone feel like a piece of shit, it's TGR. i know it probably won't work with this cocksucker, but it'd be funny as hell either way.

[Bunion]

Just what I am hoping for. Knock down & drag out ass whooping.... verbally speaking.:yourock:

[dumpy]

Seriously, this guy feeds off of childish actions, it makes him feel superior and he feels it validates his point.

To make him feel like shit, rip his whole belief system apart and get other (non mountain bikers) to agree with you.

[ectreeskier11]

you can still be completely disparaging and crude without being childish.

[dumpy]

you can still be completely disparaging and crude without being childish.

disparaging, yes, thats my point.

crude, I think it's better to stay away from. YMMV

[Bobcat Sig]

Normally I'd be all for civil discourse. But this is TGR. After reading his one stream of comment on the NW blog, I'd love to see this douche nozzle run into the ground - even if it is over teh intarwebz!

I've seem to believe that the greenies want to preach about loving and sharing and all that kum-by-yah BS, but in reality they really mean to exclude others. Homeboy is no different.

Let's bring him here. It is open season on this guy.

[MeowWoofWoof]

I don't know. It's a little bit like inviting the Uni-Bomber over to your house for dinner so you can show him your brand new iPad, and he will be convinced that civilization is worth it after all.

This Mike guy and the Unibomber are cut from the same cloth; Math and Psych degrees and all.

http://arachnerd.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/unibomber1.jpg

But if you really want to fuck with him, get on facebook-


http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1022975805

[bagtagley]

^^I agree. It's amusing to read the comments, but I don't want that guy, nor the inevitable hate storm he'd bring, cunting this place up.

[schuss]

If you really want to fuck with him, find a way to get 4chan or SomethingAwful after him. This place is kiddieland compared to some of the shit they pull.

[spaztwelve]

nevermind

[ski_adk]

what an asshole!

[stuckathuntermtn]

He should be pretty easy to find. I think he want to be found. A bay area maggot could start a collection of used up tires and tubes, chains, cassettes, etc. and dump them all in his front yard. That would be funny. Old catalogs too. I'm sure bike shops have loads of 2009 stuff and will have loads of 2010. Just leave all the stuff in his front yard one night and make him have to go recycle it. It would be hard, but you could try to keep up a steady flow of this crap. I would also recommend signing his email up for as many newsletters and special offers as you can, especially for bike websites and porn.

[Aenigma]

^Even though he is a dick, I don't think that would say much better about the biking community. He'd probably be psyched to pick up people's shit because it would give him something else to complain about.

[gunit130]

This guy is a kook. I think he is just another crazy person who went into psychology to self-diagnose themselves.

He probably didn't have very much of an opinion on mountain biking to begin with, but once he found the entertainment value in fucking with the mtb community, he quickly rose to a highly opinionated, vocally combative nature towards bikers.

The mtb community is probably unique in regards to other sports he could have chosen because mountain bikers are first and foremost a very small niche market, and statistically have a much higher education level when compared to many other sports. For example, he probably wouldn't receive this kind of overwhelming attention if he was attacking bowling or paintball.

[dumpy]

^Even though he is a dick, I don't think that would say much better about the biking community. He'd probably be psyched to pick up people's shit because it would give him something else to complain about.

Ding Ding Ding

This guy gets off on mountain bikers being assholes, therefore furthering his "cause".

Jealous cowards try to control,Rise above,We're gonna rise above, They distort what we say, Rise above, We're gonna rise above, Try and stop what we do, Rise above, When they can't do it themselves

[mtskier]

http://www.cyclingforums.com/alt-mountain-bike/463667-re-why-mike-vandeman-really-hates-bikers.html


Re: Why Mike Vandeman REALLY hates bikers.
On Jun 2, 10:55 am, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@pacbell.net> wrote:


You're never going to live it down that you are only half a man...

From Michael J. Vandeman,

"I agree, which is why I have a vasectomy & no kids. But that has
nothing to do with mountain biking."

[Sinfield]

people should just start signing up for the comments section of every mtn bike article on the web as Mike Vandeman and being super pro-mtn bike. I'm sure that would piss the dude off.

[ectreeskier11]

people should just start signing up for the comments section of every mtn bike article on the web as Mike Vandeman and being super pro-mtn bike. I'm sure that would piss the dude off.

i like that one and was thinking about something similar earlier.

[DerJaeger]

I don't know about everyone else, but I like Sprockets especially because there is much less of the main forum douchebaggery. Let's not drag it in here.

If you must to invite him to TGR, make it the Padded Room.

[Empty Beer]

According to this mtbr thread, Mr. V-d-men was recently arrested by the UC Berkeley po-po! :D

MIKE V. apprehended by UC POLICE!!!! - Mountain Bike Forums


Several days ago, one of our customers came in to tell us this event that happened to him recently while riding bikes in Berkeley.

On Saturday May 15th, he was riding a trail behind the UC Berkeley campus, when he was stopped by a crazed hiker furnishing an ice pick. The crazed hiker attempted to slice the tire and potentially attack him. In attempt to defend himself, our customer raised a fist and was going to knock the deranged hiker out. The said hiker replied with, "you aren't going to hit a guy twice your age are you?", and the cyclist decided not to but replied with, "no, but I'm going to go contact the UC police". The cyclist headed down the hill and then reported to the UC police, the encounter he just had. Having no idea the name of the crazy hiker, he put in the report with the police and they seemed to know who this said hiker was.
Several days later, the cyclist was called into the UC Berkeley police station to pick the hiker out of a line up. He picked out Van-de-men right away, and after he left the line up room, ANOTHER cyclist came in to pick him out of the line up for yet another similar situation.
Mr. V was apprehended and arrested, and is currently facing charges for several accounts of furnishing a weapon and false imprisonment. The police are urging anyone else who has had similar situations to please come forward and file a report. When the cyclist asked the policeman if he was going to site him for riding the trail, the policeman replied with "no, we are not enforcing the use of the trail, and by the way there is no official ruling about bicycles on that trail".

Here is a link to the UC police log for that day so you can revel in a victory for the Norcal mountain bike community!

http://police.berkeley.edu/bulletins/05152010Page2.htm

[commonlaw]

Interesting how Jesse Jones shows up in there to point this dude our way.

I actually read a bit of one of one of that dude's papers and am baffled that anyone awarded him a PHD. I have tried to quote myself as precedent in legal briefs and it didn't go over too well.

[Conundrum]

It seems like this guy is a miserable prick. Also seems like he ruins more mountain bikers days by just being him than the contrary.

I think the only way to ruin his day is to go out and have fun riding. So I'm going to do that.

[Aenigma]

I have tried to quote myself as precedent in legal briefs and it didn't go over too well.

Haha, I can definitely see this guy using himself as an academic source. If I said it, it must be the truth!

[skiergirl]

According to this mtbr thread...

Whoa, I thought the East Bay was lucky enough to have 2 crazy mofo's! Kind of let down they are the same guy... ;)

[ectreeskier11]

bahaha that's hilarious. what a jackass.

[kidwoo]

Whoa, I thought the East Bay was lucky enough to have 2 crazy mofo's! Kind of let down they are the same guy... ;)

There are definitely two

Here's the other one.


http://trailkillerz.blogspot.com/

[NAYR751]

This makes me so happy that it brought me out of lurking.
Here's the police report.
http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealerts/2010/10-050610-34.htm
I've personally had a run in with this guy. He knocked my friend off his bike right in front of me and then tried to stab my tire with a safety pin. SO stoked to see he's finally getting what's coming to him.

[Bean]

Not to promote violence, but...

If he got the shit beat out of him every time he attacked someone with an ice pick, wouldn't he be likely to knock it off sooner than later? Yes, it would fuel his insane hatred, but if every time he tried one of his stunts he was pissing blood for a week, one would expect him to stop with the stunts (or die, whatever). Why are his victims not defending themselves?

[Tunco]

The suspect let go of the victim’s bicycle and brandished a small tool with a sharp end.

I bet he did.

[Arty50]

Not to promote violence, but...

If he got the shit beat out of him every time he attacked someone with an ice pick, wouldn't he be likely to knock it off sooner than later? Yes, it would fuel his insane hatred, but if every time he tried one of his stunts he was pissing blood for a week, one would expect him to stop with the stunts (or die, whatever). Why are his victims not defending themselves?

Better yet, why hasn't anyone put him under citizen's arrest (zipties aren't just good for cables) or reported him to the police before this? What he's doing is straight up assault and he should have gone to jail for it long ago.

NAYR751, you and your friend should contact the UC police. If enough people come out and testify against this guy, you could put him away for a loooong time.

[Spats]

*** IMPORTANT! ***

If you find a Mike V***man comment anywhere, post the link to this FAQ:

http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/Mike_Vandeman

Example:

"Mike V****man is a kook who attacks cyclists with icepicks and quotes "scientific" papers that cite...his own web site. Everything he has said above is a lie or distortion of the facts. See the following FAQ:
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/wiki/Mike_Vandeman"

[inthemtns]

I find it funny that no one is willing to tell the guy they don't really care about the environment or other people, they just ride because it is wicked fun.

He's probably mad because his dad never taught him to ride a bike....and he raped him.

[JoeStrummer]

This makes me so happy that it brought me out of lurking.
Here's the police report.
http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealerts/2010/10-050610-34.htm
I've personally had a run in with this guy. He knocked my friend off his bike right in front of me and then tried to stab my tire with a safety pin. SO stoked to see he's finally getting what's coming to him.

suspect: A White male, approximately 50 to 60 years of age, 5’08-5’09” in height, 175 lbs., with black and grey short hair, wearing reading glasses, a tan fishing hat, grey t-shirt, khaki shorts and carrying a hard-covered book.

A dude in his 50s who goes 5'8" and weighs a buck seventy five? If he jumped me on a trail I would take that hardback out of his hand and beat him to fucking death with it, then take a dump on his bloody corpse and sign him up posthumously for a subscription to Watchtower.

[gonehuckin]

put this guy in a room, seperated from spats by a glass wall and nothing but computers to talk to each other, watch the sparks fly.....

[NAYR751]

suspect: A White male, approximately 50 to 60 years of age, 5’08-5’09” in height, 175 lbs., with black and grey short hair, wearing reading glasses, a tan fishing hat, grey t-shirt, khaki shorts and carrying a hard-covered book.

A dude in his 50s who goes 5'8" and weighs a buck seventy five? If he jumped me on a trail I would take that hardback out of his hand and beat him to fucking death with it, then take a dump on his bloody corpse and sign him up posthumously for a subscription to Watchtower.

Usually in a sporadic, surprise attack, where you don't know much about the person, I'd say it's best to be as least confrontational as possible. We were just riding by slowly on a fire road. I even waved and said hi as we approached, then MV randomly knocked my friend off of his bike, and then stabbed my tire with a safety pin.

With what I knew at the time, he could have had a gun, knife, pepper spray, etc; none of which I wanted to deal with. At the time, I just wanted to get away from the guy. If he did elevate the situation further, however, my response would have changed dramatically.

Also, keep in mind I was in an unfamiliar area at the time of the incident on a trail I had never ridden before. That changes things. It's easy to be all tough guy on the intrawebz, but in reality, in a real surprise attack, things happen differently. Hopefully this guy ends up in a mental hospital; it might do him some good.

[Ripzalot]

This makes me so happy that it brought me out of lurking.
Here's the police report.
http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealerts/2010/10-050610-34.htm
I've personally had a run in with this guy. He knocked my friend off his bike right in front of me and then tried to stab my tire with a safety pin. SO stoked to see he's finally getting what's coming to him.
berkeley, eh? this explains a lot.

you know what would be hilarious? organize a charity bike ride to encircle his house or neighborhood. imagine how torqued off he would get if he woke up to find 100s of mountain bikers parading around his house.

[dumpy]

berkeley, eh? this explains a lot.

you know what would be hilarious? organize a charity bike ride to encircle his house or neighborhood. imagine how torqued off he would get if he woke up to find 100s of mountain bikers parading around his house.

Problem is, this guy is all about bikes on the road, he claims so on his website.

He just hates them on the trail, riding his neighborhood wouldn't bother him.

I'd like to see a charity mtb race to raise money for his legal defense, see how he responds to that. If he takes the money, you can use that against him quite a bit. If he doesn't, well at least those big bad mountain bikers tried to help him out.

[Shredhead]

What's the guys opinion of horses on trails?



I'm pro horse, but realize that they do cause more damage.

[dumpy]

What's the guys opinion of horses on trails?



I'm pro horse, but realize that they do cause more damage.

According to his incredibly smug "about me page" (http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/mjv1) he's against horses on the trails too.

At least he is a consistent asshole.

[stuckathuntermtn]

^^^lol.
and the person who intentionally steps out in front of me will get nothing but the name of a fantastic Ortho and/or PT.

I realized my idea was kinda stupid once I clicked "reply." As it usually is once I've already opened my mouth or clicked reply. It would be funny though. You could leave a note that says "We wanted to recycle it, but we didn't know where to take it. We thought since you are such a great environmentalist and we're not, you'd know what to do with it."

How about a charity bike ride to pay for a therapist? He clearly has some kind of unhealthy obsession and impulse control problem.

[IslandSnow]

Usually in a sporadic, surprise attack, where you don't know much about the person, I'd say it's best to be as least confrontational as possible. We were just riding by slowly on a fire road. I even waved and said hi as we approached, then MV randomly knocked my friend off of his bike, and then stabbed my tire with a safety pin.

With what I knew at the time, he could have had a gun, knife, pepper spray, etc; none of which I wanted to deal with. At the time, I just wanted to get away from the guy. If he did elevate the situation further, however, my response would have changed dramatically.

Also, keep in mind I was in an unfamiliar area at the time of the incident on a trail I had never ridden before. That changes things. It's easy to be all tough guy on the intrawebz, but in reality, in a real surprise attack, things happen differently. Hopefully this guy ends up in a mental hospital; it might do him some good.

As far as I'm concerned your response is totally understandable and I'm guessing I would've responded the same way.

But if this guy keeps doing shit like this one of these days he is going to run into someone whose fight instinct is stronger than their flight instinct.

[bennymac]

I love how the facebook group this lifelong loser started to spread his ramblings has now been taken over by the people he despises so much

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1022975805

that links to his profile page where you can then find the link to his "Mountain Biking on Illegal Trails- post your pictures here" group - I cant access FB at work...

[tone capone]

What a piece of shit. I guess I know exactly how to respond to him on any rant he starts against us in the future.

"Hey moron, go back to that bush you hide behind while waiting to attack people with an ice pick."

Followed by this.


Several days ago, one of our customers came in to tell us this event that happened to him recently while riding bikes in Berkeley. On Saturday May 15th, he was riding a trail behind the UC Berkeley campus, when he was stopped by a crazed hiker furnishing an ice pick. The crazed hiker attempted to slice the tire and potentially attack him. In attempt to defend himself, our customer raised a fist and was going to knock the deranged hiker out. The said hiker replied with, "you aren't going to hit a guy twice your age are you?", and the cyclist decided not to but replied with, "no, but I'm going to go contact the UC police". The cyclist headed down the hill and then reported to the UC police, the encounter he just had. Having no idea the name of the crazy hiker, he put in the report with the police and they seemed to know who this said hiker was.
Several days later, the cyclist was called into the UC Berkeley police station to pick the hiker out of a line up. He picked out Van-de-men right away, and after he left the line up room, ANOTHER cyclist came in to pick him out of the line up for yet another similar situation.
Mr. V was apprehended and arrested, and is currently facing charges for several accounts of furnishing a weapon and false imprisonment. The police are urging anyone else who has had similar situations to please come forward and file a report. When the cyclist asked the policeman if he was going to site him for riding the trail, the policeman replied with "no, we are not enforcing the use of the trail, and by the way there is no official ruling about bicycles on that trail".

Here is a link to the UC police log for that day so you can revel in a victory for the Norcal mountain bike community!

http://police.berkeley.edu/bulletins/05152010Page2.htm

One of you with more time on you hands should spread that around on every forum or article this loser has cunted up with his nonsense and illogic.

[weasel1]

It strikes me as odd that no one bothered to address the most obvious and fundamental issue with his argument. That is simply that ANY human access results in the same eventual impacts he purports to be concerned with. Hikers are not zero-impact, and have many, if not all of the same detrimental impact on the environment. I love to hike, I love to ride, I love to explore the backcountry. And I know that those uses carry some impact. All we can do is work to minimize it.

[Bean]

It's been addressed. Everything has been addressed. The guy is insane.

[rideit]

HOLY SHIT!!!!
Vandeman is on a ROLL!!!
http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealerts/2010/10-052810-37NC.htm

Too fuckin' funny, if he were harmless.

Assault with a Deadly Weapon (Suspect Arrested)
UCPD crime report # 10-02127

East-West Fire Trail
June 1, 2010

On Friday, May 28, 2010 UCPD received a report of an assault with a deadly weapon which had occurred around 6 weeks earlier. The assault occurred on a Sunday on the East-West Fire Trail located in the hills above campus. The victims, two non-affiliated White males, reported the crime after hearing of similar incidents occurring to bicyclists on the fire trail. The victims were riding their bicycles westbound on the trail when they encountered the suspect walking in the opposite direction. The suspect was holding a handsaw and cut one of the victims across the chest with the saw. The victims asked the suspect why he had attacked them. He told them they should not be riding their bicycles on the trail. The victims positively identified the suspect from a photograph. UCPD contacted the suspect who admitted to holding a saw in front of some bicyclists on a trail and contacting one of them with the saw. The suspect was subsequently taken into custody. One of the victims suffered minor injuries during the assault. Additional charges may be filed from similar incidences on the fire trail including one reported in a crime alert on May 6, 2010.

The suspect is described as:

VANDEMAN, Michael J., a White non-affiliated male, 67 years of age.




If you have any information about this crime, please contact:
University of California Police Department
Criminal Investigation Bureau
http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealerts/2010/images/clip_image002_010.jpg

[kidwoo]

So that's what that fucker looks like.


Man I've never wished I lived in berkeley before but dern tootin........I wish I lived in berkeley right now

[laxman2001]

"cut one of the victims across the chest with the saw."

WTF?

[Ripzalot]

come on photoshoppers....please entertain us. :)

[lph]

IMVHO, this guy is prob good for mountain bikers, not bad. He is so over the top, so insane in his views and tactics, that he will likely sway public opinion towards the side of mountain bikers.

reminds me of that sheriff from Alabama, who used violence against peaceful black protesters during the civil rights movement and WAS CAUGHT ON FILM, Bloody Sunday, and prompted LBJ to sign the voters right act.

hmmm, caught on film....... ;-)

[SkiJunky05]

IMVHO, this guy is prob good for mountain bikers, not bad. He is so over the top, so insane in his views and tactics, that he will likely sway public opinion towards the side of mountain bikers.

reminds me of that sheriff from Alabama, who used violence against peaceful black protesters during the civil rights movement and WAS CAUGHT ON FILM, Bloody Sunday, and prompted LBJ to sign the voters right act.

hmmm, caught on film....... ;-)

I imagine a POV of a mountain biker standing over their bike looking curiously at him as he tries to puncture the tire and waving a saw. Kinda like how Mel Gibson is depicted in South Park.:biggrin:
http://turntherightcorner.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/1110_m_gibson.jpg

[bennymac]

Mountain Bike Forums - View Single Post - Organizing Cheering Section for Mike V's Arraignment Tomorrow 6/2 2PM

"So Mike V was processed today. He was read the complaints, one count of assault with deadly weapon, and one count vandalusm. His bail was decreased to $12500 and he had multiple restaining orders applied, protecting Ian and someone named John.

He opened his mouth about not being able to recognize the two, so the judge extended the restraining order to cover all UC trails!

He was in handcuffs during ingress and egress, and if he doesn't make bail, will be provided accomidations at Santa Rita jail tonight.

Tomorrow he will be back with his lawyer.
__________________"

[Summit]

"He opened his mouth about not being able to recognize the two, so the judge extended the restraining order to cover all UC trails!"

I believe that can be described as a WIN!

[Lonnie]

I love how the facebook group this lifelong loser started to spread his ramblings has now been taken over by the people he despises so much

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1022975805

that links to his profile page where you can then find the link to his "Mountain Biking on Illegal Trails- post your pictures here" group - I cant access FB at work...

Here's the direct link.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mountain-Biking-is-Illegal-HERE-Post-your-Poacher-Pics-here/117731878242599

Everyone should join up...

[JTrue]

http://cbs5.com/video/?id=65884

[Ripzalot]

http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp190/FindStuff2/TV/The%20Simpsons/simpsons_nelson_haha-1.jpg

[SchralphMacchio]

ahhh, so glad I don't have to worry about this, just in time for me to mount my new crankset and finally get back on the bike as the CA ski season slowly tapers down. :)


I have to admit he had a short-lived period of success, because I for one was not going to be riding up on those trails (right above my house really) as long as he was brandishing ice picks and saws and attacking people.

[DasBlunt]

I think that dude fucked with me up on those trails in the late 80s early 90s. We were up there shooming riding around and I rememeber someone shouting at us that the trail was closed to bikes, I think I kicked him as he tried to stop us....crazy fuck.

That kinda shit happens all the time up behind Fairfax on tam back in the late 80s, early 90s when I grew up there. I used to poach all of Mt. Tam, but the redwood trails up behind fairfax were the best....and the hikers hated us, even as nice and courteous as we are. Horses, we always dismount and let them pass. They go so slow you can't miss them unless you suck.

[stuckathuntermtn]

67 years old? Assault with a deadly weapon? He may just die in jail.
Fucker.

[rideit]

I like this website: Poormansheli

http://poormansheli.com/tag/michael-j-vandeman/

[noparking]

We would only be so lucky is that worthless sack of shit died in jail.