Before I pull the trigger....

[The Reverend Floater]

...on the Trance X2, any other rides I should consider? I'm on a tight time table here so time is of the essence (hence the new thread). Bike must retail for $3K or less to be realistic. Thanks!

[Dickeymotto]

Yeti ASR-5 - Enduro build $2800

[The Reverend Floater]

Yeti ASR-5 - Enduro build $2800

Great call, Dickey! Didn't think about that new model. I'll see what my pricing is on it. Muchas gracias!

[Dickeymotto]

Great call, Dickey! Didn't think about that new model. I'll see what my pricing is on it. Muchas gracias!

I've been eyeballing these two bikes myself. I'm leaning towards the ASR-5 for now, because of how stiff it is supposed to be (12x142 rear option, tapered HT) and I like the geo a lot more. I might try to test them head to head in Moab this fall if I have the means.

[Crampedon]

I have a brand new 2010 Stumpjumper fsr elite in large I would give a good MAG deal on... full list is $2800. Will do you right, need to move some product. PM me.

[beast]

Banshee Spitfire. Check it: http://www.bansheebikes.com/spitfire.html

$2855 out the door. No more steep head angle . . . you want to rally your trail bike, dontcha?

More: http://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/First-Look-at-the-Banshee-Spitfire,67 and http://bansheebikes.blogspot.com/search/label/Spitfire

http://www.vitalmtb.com/images/stories/2010/01/10/full87952090_1263182437.jpg

[bagtagley]

Quit wringing your hands and get the Trance. I know it's hard to come to grips with the fact that you're buying a Giant. But trust me, once you get past the initial guilt and dirty feeling, it's actually pretty satisfying. :D

[The Reverend Floater]

Quit wringing your hands and get the Trance. I know it's hard to come to grips with the fact that you're buying a Giant. :D

Fucking BINGO, Bags. Too funny that I'm that transparent.

[The Reverend Floater]

Thanks for the recs...don't know if we have deals set up with Banshee, so it might be out of the running. And Crampedon, unless you want sell that Elite for about 1/2 retail, I'm afraid I can't afford it.

I have to make my decision today, so I'll let you guys know when I choose! THANKS!

[jimmy page]

Whatever you choose, remember what you are going for...nice, fairly light, trail bike. One that you can ride on any trail around here without feeling like you are on a tank.

Still plenty of skiing left, but bike season is just around the corner.

[marshalolson]

let me know if you cannot get a good deal on the yeti.

[JeffreyJim]

The Giant is superior as far as suspension design goes. The 575 is a great bike but is still single pivot.

After riding Maestro for the last 2 seasons, it'd be really hard for me to go to a single pivot like the ASR 5.

Not saying the ASR 5 will hold you back, we all know it is capable of being built stupid light and will probably be extremely fun. I just feel the way Maestro works is so much more neutral feeling when compared to the Yeti design.

After riding some Yeti stuff, I do like the craftsmanship, company attitude and fit but it'd be really hard for me to go ASR5 over a well built Trance X.

[marshalolson]

let me know if you cannot get a good deal on the yeti.

also, if you fit a large, i have a super pimped out 575 i can cut a good deal on. pm me if interested.

thanks.

[Particle]

Fucking BINGO, Bags. Too funny that I'm that transparent.

I looked at a Glory at Go-Ride the other day, gotta admit the same thing. The bike is sweet, but a Giant?!? Ehhhhh...

[The Reverend Floater]

also, if you fit a large, i have a super pimped out 575 i can cut a good deal on. pm me if interested.

thanks.

Thanks, Marshal, but unfortunatley I ride a medium. I have an email into Yeti and should hear back today, hopefully. My coworker and good buddy just told me that if I buy a Giant, I might as well by a Haro. Funny how people's perceptions of that brand are so set.

[Conundrum]

My coworker and good buddy just told me that if I buy a Giant, I might as well by a Haro. .

Jess's ex got her a Haro. :nonono2: This makes me a sad panda every time I work on it.

[ridevt]

I've been riding Giants since they introduced Maestro in 05. I could care less about branding, it's the ride that counts. Never ridden a Trance X but it seems like a killer trail machine. I've only ridden my new Rx twice but I think Giant nailed it with this bike. Could only imagine the same for the 2010 TranceX.

Particle, you should take a quick ride on my new Glory, see what you think about Giant after :)

Edit: forgot your broken, few months...

[marshalolson]

Thanks, Marshal, but unfortunatley I ride a medium. I have an email into Yeti and should hear back today, hopefully. My coworker and good buddy just told me that if I buy a Giant, I might as well by a Haro. Funny how people's perceptions of that brand are so set.

you might just call them. they are backlogged in emails a little bit at the moment.

talk to seth mukai or phil.

[shirk]

http://s-tec-essence.eshop.t-online.de/WebRoot/Store4/Shops/Shop38023/4808/F8B6/178B/5748/ADEE/AC14/500A/066B/GIANT_0020_TRANCE_0020_X.jpg

Anyone telling you this is not a sexy trail killing machine needs to put down their Dolce & Gabbana man purse give their head a shake.

[El Chupacabra]

:the_finge to the Haro haters.

I ride this more than any other bike I have. It's fun.

http://bikemag.com/gear/bikes/Haro_Mary_1.jpg

[Conundrum]

:the_finge to the Haro haters.

I ride this more than any other bike I have. It's fun.

http://bikemag.com/gear/bikes/Haro_Mary_1.jpg

Not hating all Haros, just my gf's. In Haro's defense, this is an XS so maybe the other sizes are better.

http://www.singletracks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/img_6434.jpg

Your bike looks nothing like hers though.

To drop the seat, you have to cut the seat post down so it doesn't ram the shock when compressed. When you do this, the seat post isn't long enough to extend to a comfy climbing height. I guess a gravity dropper would fix this but there is no reason to have to buy a GD to overcome a design flaw. Kind of a silly situation for a 6" AM bike.

On her bike, the welds are sloppy and there are areas that probably could be welded and are not.

Haro only has one shop in Boise and they are not that great so proprietary parts are hard to get.

A lot of forks hit the down tube.

There are spots in the frame where mud/water collect and stay.

The frame is creaky.

For what it is, it's heavy.

I wouldn't pick this bike for any friends of mine. With that said, she doesn't mind it but she is coming off an old Jamis XC bike with a blown shock. She's pretty fast.


Enough tangents...Rev, buy a cool bike and get amped for spring!

[El Chupacabra]

Your bike looks nothing like hers though.
...

Enough tangents...Rev, buy a cool bike and get amped for spring!

^^^ Yep, figured it would be something like that. Haro has some really weird F/S designs.

I find it funny that I like this rigid 29r SS so much. It's not that light, parts are only adequate (nothing fancy on it), but I like riding it more than the Intense 5.5 I built up last year. And I like that Intense more than the 575 it replaced.

Anyway, lots of good F/S designs out there, and Giant's Maestro suspension seems to work really well.

[The Reverend Floater]

http://s-tec-essence.eshop.t-online.de/WebRoot/Store4/Shops/Shop38023/4808/F8B6/178B/5748/ADEE/AC14/500A/066B/GIANT_0020_TRANCE_0020_X.jpg

Anyone telling you this is not a sexy trail killing machine needs to put down their Dolce & Gabbana man purse give their head a shake.

I agree...I don't give a shit what the stickers say, so long as it crushes.

That said, I wish the X2 I'll probably buy was that color scheme. Dope!

[marshalolson]

you should also call flowtron (joe) at salvagetti's in denver and see if he has something at the store. i bet he would be stoked to help out too...

[Pegleg]

I've got that black-on-black scheme on my X2. Can't understand why they changed it - it's beautiful, especially with some anodized hubs (red or blue if you want to match the Fox parts, bright orange if you like to clash as I do). The new paint schemes make it look more like a typical big-factory bike, which is a shame since it's still the same killer frame.

[The Reverend Floater]

Okay, kids. Thank you all for your input. In the end, I'm going with the Trance. The price I'm getting it for is stupid silly and I'm not a rich man. The Yeti would be quite a bit more for a pretty similiar bike.

THANKS AGAIN!

Next project will be picking some parts to improve. Stay tuned.

[Rontele]

I think you made a good decision with the Trance. From what I have gathered, although the geo on the ASR-5 is awesome, it still rides super stiff/platformy and race-like.

[marshalolson]

wheels.

i have a pimp set... perfect for this mission. even 15mm. dt 340/4.2d w/ dbl butted spokes. upgrade the single most important thing on the bike,

brakes.

i have a pimp set... shimano saint dual piston. includes rotors on the wheels. they make you go faster, cause you need to brake less.

tires.

i have a pimp set... maxxis advantage 2.4/2.25 so much better than nevegals.

fork.

a have a pimp one... float 140mm. um soo plush. more better geo.

got other stuff too :D ;)

[ticketchecker]

How's the Trance for out of the saddle climbing?

[The Reverend Floater]

wheels.

i have a pimp set... perfect for this mission. even 15mm. dt 340/4.2d w/ dbl butted spokes. upgrade the single most important thing on the bike,

brakes.

i have a pimp set... shimano saint dual piston. includes rotors on the wheels. they make you go faster, cause you need to brake less.

tires.

i have a pimp set... maxxis advantage 2.4/2.25 so much better than nevegals.

fork.

a have a pimp one... float 140mm. um soo plush. more better geo.

got other stuff too :D ;)


I laughed. But I'll get at you in a month or too with the money I saved by switching to Giant.

[JeffreyJim]

You wont be disappointed...sometime when you get your Trance X all dialed try out that ASR5. I think you'll be even more stoked with your purchase.

[Dickeymotto]

the money I saved by switching to Giant.

http://steve.theszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/geico.jpg

[Particle]

Nice choice Rev! That'll be a sicko rig.



Oh and ridevt, heard about your Glory and thanks, but got my evil "S" deal all worked out today so I should be all set. I've pedaled phatfreeheeler's around a bit (although it's more of a trail bike than DH how he has it set up), and it's a sweeeet ride.

[telestoner]

How's the Trance for out of the saddle climbing?

I have an x2, and with the fork locked out it climbs like a rigid bike.

[The Reverend Floater]

Giant sold the trance so I'm back to square one. Asr 5 I guess? More than I want to spend but what can you do?

[Rontele]

Giant sold the trance so I'm back to square one. Asr 5 I guess? More than I want to spend but what can you do?

Ugh. What are you looking for? Do you want a more plush ride or a more platformy ride? What are the trails like you'll be riding on? As noted earlier, the ASR 5 has really great geo, but the suspension may feel a bit race like. In addition, there are some conflicting reports that the bike cannot really be run with a 140mm fork, which makes it less trail bike.

What about a Santa Cruz Heckler? Simple single pivot design, not the best geometry, but at a good price point. Not sure how much a Blur LT2 will cost you (might want to pm flowtron)?

[Hart]

Hey Reverand, what happened to your stoke man?

[Particle]

Bummer dude.

I'm assuming we have similar access to various companies, so a couple ideas:
-Have you checked with Go-Ride or similar shops for Trances? You'd have to drive down to SLC to get it but might be worth it. Even retail, they are good deals (if on sale a bit).
-ASR5. I want one. Bad.
-Lightweight build on a Transition Covert. Might be too much crossover with the MX though.
-Blur LT2

[smmokan]

a more platformy ride?

What does this even mean?

[Rontele]

What does this even mean?

Real stiff, race like suspension.

[Dickeymotto]

In addition, there are some conflicting reports that the bike cannot really be run with a 140mm fork, which makes it less trail bike.


From what I understand, the question with 140mm forks was only with the carbon version. It actually lists the geo for a 140mm fork in the owners manual pdf on their website.

Why I want one:
- Eventually run a TALAS with 140-120-110, 140mm = 67 HTA 13.3 BB, 120mm = 68 HTA 13 bb, so super versatile geometry.
- Option of running regular QR dropouts or 12x142 thru axle rear = super stiff
- Tapered HT
- Comes with the nicest F120 stock, even on the enduro build.
- really the only weakness of the Enduro build is the SRAM Attack shifters, which could easily be replaced with SLX's or XT's

I kinda like stiffer suspension and snappy response from a bike. The slacker geo is what really gets me though, super low and slack yet stiff and snappy when used with a 140mm, which I would switch to for shuttle runs or long drawn out descents, but most of the time I would probably leave it in the 120mm setting, especially when the trail is not consistently downhill or uphill.

[Particle]

^^ Yeti removed the 140 specs from the alu version on their site, I don't know why.

[Yukonrider]

what size do you need

[emtnate]

^^ Yeti removed the 140 specs from the alu version on their site, I don't know why.

I've been trying to figure this out too. The specs are gone from the website, but still in the PDF manual and some dealers' websites still claim compatibility with the 140 fork.

How many 120mm forks come in a tapered version? Some recent reviews of the 5 on mtbr suggest the bike really comes alive with a shorter, stiffer travel fork.

I still want one, but I haven't made up my mind about the fork yet. When I rode the Trance X, it seemed like a great bike and price, but didn't quite do it for me. I didn't have the shock or fork set up for my weight, so that may have a lot to do with it.

[Particle]

My totally unfounded guess on the Yeti removal of 140mm is marketing. Create more separation from the 575 since I'm sure the ASR5 is cannibalizing 575 sales.

[Mr. Altagirl]

Rev, I may be buying a Giant from Go-Ride today, if you work out a deal with them I can deliver for you (I'm in Boise next week and every few weeks for the foreseeable future..). They have 2009 Trance X1 and X3 in medium on the floor right now... just saying. Can't vouch for the price as your deal would have been pretty good, I'm sure.

[schuss]

Mojo SLX build? (retail $2999.99)

DW Link, lots of fun. Stupid good bike.

[The Reverend Floater]

Rev, I may be buying a Giant from Go-Ride today, if you work out a deal with them I can deliver for you (I'm in Boise next week and every few weeks for the foreseeable future..). They have 2009 Trance X1 and X3 in medium on the floor right now... just saying. Can't vouch for the price as your deal would have been pretty good, I'm sure.

I'll give them a call shortly, C., and post back 'cause I can't find your digits. I have the Mrs.' digits (don't hit me) but can't find yours.

I'm just bummed--I had such a sweet deal on that Trance, I know I won't be able to find anything like it.

Anyhow, I need an 18 or 18.5 lightish trail bike, to reiterate the parameters. I have access to Yeti, SC, Felt, Kona and probably a few others. I do get a KILLER deal on that Felt but didn't really love the feedback you guys gave.

BTW I'm in the phoenix airport right now. BOOTAY!

[Rontele]

My totally unfounded guess on the Yeti removal of 140mm is marketing. Create more separation from the 575 since I'm sure the ASR5 is cannibalizing 575 sales.

I think that is a really good guess.

[Rontele]

I'll give them a call shortly, C., and post back 'cause I can't find your digits. I have the Mrs.' digits (don't hit me) but can't find yours.

I'm just bummed--I had such a sweet deal on that Trance, I know I won't be able to find anything like it.

Anyhow, I need an 18 or 18.5 lightish trail bike, to reiterate the parameters. I have access to Yeti, SC, Felt, Kona and probably a few others. I do get a KILLER deal on that Felt but didn't really love the feedback you guys gave.

BTW I'm in the phoenix airport right now. BOOTAY!

Look at the Blur LT2.

[The Reverend Floater]

Rev, I may be buying a Giant from Go-Ride today, if you work out a deal with them I can deliver for you (I'm in Boise next week and every few weeks for the foreseeable future..). They have 2009 Trance X1 and X3 in medium on the floor right now... just saying. Can't vouch for the price as your deal would have been pretty good, I'm sure.

I see them online...they're pretty much retail, unless they're cheaper on the floor. Can't afford retail...not even close. Thanks, though.

Rontele--that Blur has been added to the list. It's pretty much the same price to me as the ASR 5. I might just have to sack it up spend the dough, though I'd rather not.

Anyone try any of the new Konas, like the Cadabra? Just curious. Thanks.

[shirk]

Kona Hei Hei 100 (http://www.konaworld.com/bike.cfm?content=heihei100) then swap out to a longer travel Air U-Turn fork like the Revelation SL Air U-Turn (http://www.sram.com/node/104/brand/rockshox/src/fam).

Only reservation would be small bump compliance. From the weekend of riding I did down in lovely Sun Valley I'd be looking for something with great small bump action that doesn't get affected by pedaling. I have not swung a leg over a Kona in years so my recommendation might be bunk.

[gravitylover]

Just go ASR 5. Such a nice ride ...

[Particle]

Info on Cadabra... nothing convincing out there yet.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185639&highlight=cadabra

[The Reverend Floater]

Info on Cadabra... nothing convincing out there yet.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185639&highlight=cadabra

Yeah, that's about what I've heard...last years was bunk, this years supposedly works. Every Kona I've ridden, including the Dawg I used to own, was a solid bike but not a "10". And they're always heavy.

The Hei Hei looks pretty meh in the suspension department. The four bar suspension seems tired.

Just saw a 6'2" thai super model or hooker. I love this airport.

[Rontele]

Did 'it' have an adam's apple?

[ticketchecker]

http://bicyclewarehouse.com/product/09-giant-trance-x1-48825-1.htm?site=google_base

Medium '09 X1 => $2599

I'm thinking about jumping on the small they have, if it's still there.

[rideit]

PM sent, Rev.
I could also throw in a voucher or two for Targhee if you come get the bike (X2 OR Norco Fluid 2)

[Dickeymotto]

Chile Pepper in Moab is selling last years demo X2's in XS, L, and XL if your up for buying a used one. $1800. (888) 677-4688 or (435) 259-4688

Also, Bikers Edge here in Kaysville UT has all 2009 bikes at cost (they carry Giant, Yeti, Santa Cruz, and Cannondale), but I have no idea what is available. (801) 544-5300

[The Reverend Floater]

Did 'it' have an adam's apple?

No, but a guy can dream.

Rideit, PM returned.

I almost want to buy a Trans AM (I get a killer deal), then use the saved money on a killer wheel set for the Cannondale, bring her back to around 29lbs with the Lyric. Best of both worlds? I dunno. Part of me also says "buy the Felt, bitch ass candy pants!" But that's the cheap part of me some people call "responsible." Boooooo!

Gotta run...next stop, Raleighwood, North Cackolacky. I'll hit you guys up from there, tonight. THANKS for the continuing assistance. You guys rule.

[rideit]

Since Rev is on his own, I can offer a Med. X2 for $2000, and a Norco Fluid 2 (Med) for $1850.
(Brand new, 09')
Comps for Targhee included.

[shirk]

Go across the street...:)

http://bikemag.com/news/freshproduce/Geniusproduct.jpg

[Conundrum]

Just looked at that AR5 online. That would be a tough bike to pass up. Especially for where we ride.

[ticketchecker]

Can anyone comment on Maestro vs. VPP? Specifically I'm ready to break up with my old Blur XC and start anew with a 5" bike. I want the new girl to be well you know, new feeling. Would a Trance give me that starry eyed look?

Not sure I can talk my checkbook into a more boutique setup at this time. I do have that Pivot on the brain still. She's hawt.

[BIGempty]

stop being a twat and get the yeti!

[The Reverend Floater]

stop being a twat and get the yeti!

Not all of us make the big bucks you sales people do, punkass! Shut up and get me that SOG.

[Conundrum]

So, after a few laps the verdict is in and the Dialled Alpine is a winner! It feels really comfortable like I've been riding it for awhile...which I haven't. So I did a comparison. with Maxxis 2.25s and a Lyric 160 the geo is within a 1/4" on almost every aspect with my Enduro SL which I really like.

I stacked it up against the TransAm numbers and it's pretty close to that too. I couldn't tell if Transition listed their numbers with a 130, 140 or 160 fork. The only difference I really saw was the Tranny had a lower bb height, slightly steeper HA and a shorter wheelbase. Those numbers actually matched the online specs for the Alpine but I put a 160 U-turn Lyric on it which slackened, raised, and lengthened just a bit.

My two pennies are that a 24 or 25 pound TransAm would give you nice climbability weight wise and that fun geometry for the way down. While fun, I don't think you necessarily need the rear end squish around there especially when holding the Prophet too.

Sorry to muddy the waters. Come ride either of my bikes or I could bring one up the next trip and you could see if the geo works for you.

[JeffreyJim]

Am I the only one that would take a Trance X over the Yeti (with a shock change of course)?

[stupendous man]

I pulled the trigger on an X2, Rev. Wish I had checked here first, but you have more cred for the hook-ups than I do. I got it for 2500 for the 2010. The only deal is that full cycle gives 10% off on any purchases made the same day, 9 months same as cash, and 75 dollar annual tunes for free for the life of the bike.

[PeachesN'Cream]

Admitted SC Fanboi here, but what about short shocking a Blur LT2?

http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/500/medium/Blur_ST_4.jpg

Or if you wanna flex that SC deal and give yourself a huge boner a Blur LT2 Carbon with a tapered steer tube Fox Q15, or RS Fork. People have been doing this over on eMTBeeR, with happy results FWIW.
http://forums.mtbr.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=522188&stc=1&d=1266708209

[Rontele]

Peaches, what did they do in that second pic?

[Particle]

Admitted SC Fanboi here, but what about short shocking a Blur LT2?



I did NOT need to know about this. Drooool...

[PeachesN'Cream]

I think all they are doing is having the stock shock reduced. Numbers listed below were poached from the dude who did the LT2c.
Stock BLT2c 8.5” x 2.5” (216x 63mm) = 140mm travel
Short BLT2c 7.875" x 2.0" (200x 50mm) = 112mm travel
I guess the shock got re-valved when dropped too. Knowing my Nomad it might actually help the VPP small bump feel having the shorter i2i aka starting further into the curve right off the bat.

This all came from wanting to have SC make a new Blur 4X. If anything the LT2c looks dead hawt and would be way stiffer than your boner. I'm all about using the word boner today, better start writing some business email : )

Here is the empty beer thread.
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6321154&page=2

[scrublover]

So, after a few laps the verdict is in and the Dialled Alpine is a winner! It feels really comfortable like I've been riding it for awhile...which I haven't. So I did a comparison. with Maxxis 2.25s and a Lyric 160 the geo is within a 1/4" on almost every aspect with my Enduro SL which I really like.

I stacked it up against the TransAm numbers and it's pretty close to that too. I couldn't tell if Transition listed their numbers with a 130, 140 or 160 fork. The only difference I really saw was the Tranny had a lower bb height, slightly steeper HA and a shorter wheelbase. Those numbers actually matched the online specs for the Alpine but I put a 160 U-turn Lyric on it which slackened, raised, and lengthened just a bit.

My two pennies are that a 24 or 25 pound TransAm would give you nice climbability weight wise and that fun geometry for the way down. While fun, I don't think you necessarily need the rear end squish around there especially when holding the Prophet too.

Sorry to muddy the waters. Come ride either of my bikes or I could bring one up the next trip and you could see if the geo works for you.

FWIW, I think the TransAM numbers are with a 140mm fork. The Lyrik on mine feels juuuust right. The small frame is pushing 6# - getting one to the 24-25# mark would take much cash, or small fork/skinny tires or a SS setup. Mine is built fairly light, other than the extra half pound of Gravity Dropper and a Solo Air Lyrik adding more up front. Single ring, and lots of little ti and alu bits here and there and it's still near 28#.

That said, it's a fantastic riding bike. If I lived somewhere with less chunky rocks, a Pike or Revelation up front to drop some weight and slackness would work beautifully. Well, it wouldn't be too bad here, but I'm used to the Lyrik at this point.

I think the Alpine is a bit more refined, a touch lighter. No SS option, doesn't have the integrated headset - if that matters to some folks. The integrated on my TransAM is the first for me, and it's working fine, no issues. Otherwise pretty damn similar.

[Arty50]

Am I the only one that would take a Trance X over the Yeti (with a shock change of course)?

No. Rev, stop the analysis paralysis and just buy the damn Giant already.

[Rontele]

Thanks, Peaches. I had heard from flowtron the short shocking method. Pechelman should look into it as he cries emo unicorn tears for SC no longer making the 4x.

[shirk]

No. Rev, stop the analysis paralysis and just buy the damn Giant already.

Keep up man...Rev had decided on the Giant, but they are out.

My vote goes to a short shocked Blur LT with a RS Revelation. Go full XC on wheels and everything else in the build.

[PeachesN'Cream]

So I'm looking at the DHX Coil on my Nomad, and I'm thinking...

What would a short air or coil shock and a 140 or 150 fork make it look like?
138mm rear travel I think.
What it would do to the BB height and HTº? Who has skills, free time and wants to punch numbers?
I'm thinking the results may cause at least a chubby if not a full boner.

Oh BTW Nomads have ICGS-05 and weigh a whopping .5 pounds more than a LT2. And are stiff and tough as shit. Hell, I could totally change the personality of my Nomad with a shock switch, fork drop and single ply tires. It would be lightish, low and slack... hummmm...

[shirk]

So I'm looking at the DHX Coil on my Nomad, and I'm thinking...

What would a short air or coil shock and a 140 or 150 fork make it look like?
138mm rear travel I think.
What it would do to the BB height and HTº? Who has skills, free time and wants to punch numbers?
I'm thinking the results may cause at least a chubby if not a full boner.

Oh BTW Nomads have ICGS-05 and weigh a whopping .5 pounds more than a LT2. And are stiff and tough as shit. Hell, I could totally change the personality of my Nomad with a shock switch, fork drop and single ply tires. It would be lightish, low and slack... hummmm...

I guess it would depend on whats in your quiver. Add a full on DH bike to your stable and going to the xc-extremo build on your Nomad makes sense. One bike? Keep it as is.

Perfect world is three bikes...er four bikes if you include the bar bike/ cruiser.

light xc rocket
middle weight 6x6
dh

[PeachesN'Cream]

I was more thinking that a short shock could get a different personality from the Nomad. Tough but more low slack trail. And really a short shock BLT2 is way more that bike than a Nomad would be.

[300hp]

DO WANT SHORT SHOCK BLUR!
damn, that looks like a fun rig.

[Arty50]

Keep up man...Rev had decided on the Giant, but they are out.

My apologies. I'm not smrt.

[The Reverend Floater]

Enough bickering and hypothesizing. Conundrum and I have arrived at the solution and it's not listed here. Not exactly...

Pics upon arrival!

[InspectorGadget]

Tick tock Rev.

[PeachesN'Cream]

Enough bickering and hypothesizing. Conundrum and I have arrived at the solution and it's not listed here. Not exactly...
Pics upon arrival!

Not cool. Seriously not cool. :(

[Crinkle]

its a hardtail with a 160mm front fork, right?

[Conundrum]

its a hardtail with a 160mm front fork, right?

A hardtail with a thudbuster. Get with the times.

[Dickeymotto]

I feel as if its my fault Rev missed the Trance boat, I just had to suggest the Yeti didn't I?

[t.odd]

I know I'm late to the party, and decisions have been made, but I'm a bit unsure as to the giant hate by some in here! for the money, spec, warranty, and flat out performance, there's really no company coming close to what giant is offering out there! and that's through their full line up....I ride an 08 glory dh and it's a solid solid bike.....also rode a anthem xo last spring and was blown away by how fast it climbed, seriously any amount of energy put in just made it go faster up hill, and it performed very very well descending, even with a shorter fork and skimpier tires than I would've preferred....managed a 2nd place in the pemby ice breaker toonie race on it, which is pretty much a best ever xc for me....mind you the regular beasts weren't out that day! giant's are pretty much the defacto whistler bike, they are everywhere because they are the real deal.....whether people on here think they aren't worthy or not! :) if I wasn't about to drop too much money on new camera gear, I would be ordering, or already have, an anthem x....have fun on the new rig regardless, new bikes rule!