I'm leaning towards Obama

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Just for the record.
Won't make my mind up until after the debates.
I don't see any positives of having a Conservative in the White House right now.

Economy, economy, economy.

[steepconcrete]

you residing in colorado makes your vote mean a lot more than others.

[haydukelives]

how would raising taxes and increasing the size of govt help the economy?btw, our economy is still growing. europe actually is in recession, at least britain, germany, and spain.

[steepconcrete]

typical conservitive bullshit, unless you make a lot more than most, your taxes will fall under obama.

[Summit]

I'm leaning towards this ticket:

http://www.visitingdc.com/images/george-washington-picture.jpg

http://www.novadentalpartners.com/images/Services/Bugs Bunny.jpg

[WWCD]

I'm leaning towards this ticket:

http://www.visitingdc.com/images/george-washington-picture.jpg

http://www.novadentalpartners.com/images/Services/Bugs Bunny.jpg

That's a pretty shitty choice. Your VP is a militant anti-hunter and will take away all your guns.

[MashedPotatoes]

same here.

give the dems a chance to fuck things up for a while.:rolleyes2

[Big Balls]

typical conservitive bullshit, unless you make a lot more than most, your taxes will fall under obama.

BULLSHIT. Obama has no plans to lower ANYONE's taxes. He plans on writing out checks the first year in office and he is calling THAT a tax cut. It is a fucking gimmick. I'm not lying, look it up yourself.

And you don't see the advantages of having a conservative in the White House right now? What are you kidding me??? The Dems are going to have almost veto proof majorities in both the House and Senate and you see no advantage of having their absolute power balanced out???? Have we not learned anything these last 8 years??

[RootSkier]

Yeah, we learned that McCain is identical to Bush and Bush blows a dead bloated goat.

[Blurred]

Yeah, we learned that McCain is identical to Bush and Bush blows a dead bloated goat.

Is that the one you fucked to death last week?

[steepconcrete]

And you don't see the advantages of having a conservative in the White House right now? What are you kidding me??? The Dems are going to have almost veto proof majorities in both the House and Senate and you see no advantage of having their absolute power balanced out???? Have we not learned anything these last 8 years??

very good point, but still...these conservitives are fucking nutjobs.

[jon turner]

re: Big Balls comment

Though Obama is making some of the Bush tax cuts permanent - the one's for people who make less than 250k, rather than expire (not sure when they are supposed to expire off the top of my head, but it's within the next decade I believe).

McCain is keeping all of the Bush tax cuts, but also reducing corporate tax rate by 10% (35-25). He is proposing suspending the gas tax (a whopping 18.4 cents per gallon, seems trivial, but will get votes - I'd rather see policy to conserve energy and promote using less oil), which I'm guessing will end up decreasing funding for infrastructure improvements even more.

Neither plan is really proposing any huge tax cuts as far as I can tell. I personally don't think either plan is a great plan, but Obama's just seems better to me.

The links/info in this thread is prety interesting as far as tax policy goes:

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131836

[Big Balls]

You know, rich people and corporations only pay taxes WHEN THEY WANT TO. The only time they want to is when the tax rate is so reasonable that it is easier to pay it then spend time and effort trying to get around it. If taxes are low enough EVERYONE will willingly pay them. If taxes are too high the only people that pay them are the middle class. This is not a US thing, this is a world wide thing. If you want more taxes from rich and corporations then LOWER taxes not raise, otherwise they just won't pay up.

[squatch]

You know, rich people and corporations only pay taxes WHEN THEY WANT TO. The only time they want to is when the tax rate is so reasonable that it is easier to pay it then spend time and effort trying to get around it. If taxes are low enough EVERYONE will willingly pay them. If taxes are too high the only people that pay them are the middle class. This is not a US thing, this is a world wide thing. If you want more taxes from rich and corporations then LOWER taxes not raise, otherwise they just won't pay up.

This is false

signed: a tax accountant.

[Big Balls]

This is false

signed: a tax accountant.

Haha. A tax accountant is the LAST person who would know if a person is paying all their taxes, especially considering that you are not a lawyer and have no attorney client privledge (not that attornies really have that privledge either but still). People come to you when they WANT to pay taxes.

[Rubicon]

Haha. A tax accountant is the LAST person who would know if a person is paying all their taxes

DAPPS


You and I may fall on similar sides of various issues, but you are an idiot.

In the future try to dispense with the cloak and dagger stuff and stick to things that you don't have to make up in your head.

[basom]

You and I may fall on similar sides of various issues, but you are an idiot.

In the future try to dispense with the cloak and dagger stuff and stick to things that you don't have to make up in your head.


you and i might fully disagree on every political issue of all time, but we both know BB is a certifiable wackjob.

[bio-smear]

The economy, taxes, all that shit is meaningless if pyscho-boy-stored-your-daddys-watch-in-my-ass-for-8-years McCain is the one behind the wheel pushing for bringing Caucasus countries in NATO. This Georgia thing is delicate. Jowls and Caribou Cuntface are not the people for that mission.

All the good nuclear war movies ramp up the tension with a plot just like this, then the next thing you know we're living in dark underground holes tending to our fallout psoriasis and eating paper bags.

[Hugh Conway]

If you leaned towards Obama you'd grab his ass :fm:


biosmear - remember the ski potential of nuclear winter

[Pow4Brains]

The economy, taxes, all that shit is meaningless if pyscho-boy-stored-your-daddys-watch-in-my-ass-for-8-years McCain is the one behind the wheel pushing for bringing Caucasus countries in NATO. This Georgia thing is delicate. Jowls and Caribou Cuntface are not the people for that mission.

All the good nuclear war movies ramp up the tension with a plot just like this, then the next thing you know we're living in dark underground holes tending to our fallout psoriasis and eating paper bags.


Gold, pure gold.

[Rasputin]

The economy, taxes, all that shit is meaningless if pyscho-boy-stored-your-daddys-watch-in-my-ass-for-8-years McCain is the one behind the wheel pushing for bringing Caucasus countries in NATO. This Georgia thing is delicate. Jowls and Caribou Cuntface are not the people for that mission.

All the good nuclear war movies ramp up the tension with a plot just like this, then the next thing you know we're living in dark underground holes tending to our fallout psoriasis and eating paper bags.

I KNEW there was some reason to choose paper over plastic, I've been doing it intuitively.

[Smokey McPole]

fallout psoriasis

ARE YOU MAKING FUN OF ME MOTHERFUCKER??!!!!!!!

Don't make me go all tippster on your ass!!!

[Barack H. Obama]

Just for the record.
Won't make my mind up until after the debates.
I don't see any positives of having a Conservative in the White House right now.

Economy, economy, economy.

Here we go now! This is exactly what I'm talking about; bringing people from all sides to the table. The economy isn't Democrat or Republican...it's American! Under my plan we will make sure that those corporations who have been reaping excessive profits for the last 8 years pay their due. It's time for the working man to stop shouldering the burden!


Jowls and Caribou Cuntface are not the people

I appreciate your rabid support of our ticket, however I really wish you and all my other new friends in cyberspace would stop talking like this about the opposition. Their just using it as campaign fodder against us and it really seems to be sticking. (don't get me wrong, I laughed at your description!)