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AstroPax
09-10-2008, 08:21 PM
Washington Post political cartoon by Tom Toles, September 5th (last week):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinion/ssi/images/Toles/c_09052008_520.gif

Obama campaign speech, September 9th (yesterday):
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Mathematics
09-10-2008, 08:34 PM
he makes a good point. and here I thought you were some right wing nutcase. now I know you're really just another librodouche.

Rubicon
09-10-2008, 08:39 PM
Bwhahahaha!


I...really don't know what to say. Heh!

flyby
09-10-2008, 09:01 PM
heh. first time i saw that video. kind of clever how he worked that lipstick one in there

The AD
09-10-2008, 09:47 PM
He wasn't trying to pass it off as original. He's referenced that cartoon before and given credit to Toles.

edit: according to this story (http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/obama-repeatedly-quotes-cartoonist-while-on-campaign-trail/) he didn't properly attribute it the first time he used it, but later did.

Rubicon
09-10-2008, 10:26 PM
edit: according to this story (http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/obama-repeatedly-quotes-cartoonist-while-on-campaign-trail/) he didn't properly attribute it the first time he used it, but later did.

He passed it off as his own until he got caught? Biden has done this as well. My own biases cause my memory to be less sharp than it probably should be but I'm sure if we dug around enough we could find republicans who have done the same thing.

Partisanship aside, what are we supposed to do with a politician who plagiarizes someone else and then claims it was a mistake, but not until they get caught. I have seen interviews with musicians who say that several weeks before they start composing they will stop listening to other peoples music. Because they don't want other peoples work being accidentally recreated in their creative process.

It wouldn't be a stretch to think the same dynamic could be at work when orators speak; they cram so much into their head that over time other peoples thoughts are bound to leak out...but not a word for word rendition of somebody else's work, not accidentally.

AstroPax
09-10-2008, 11:04 PM
that video.

Obama appears and sounds ragged-out in that video...almost exhausted.

I think Gov Palin has got so far inside his head that he is losing a lot of sleep at night. Makes me wonder if, or for how long he could handle the pressures of the presidency.

The AD
09-10-2008, 11:14 PM
I've got to think it was an honest mistake. That cartoon ran in the Washington Post only a week ago. Obviously he'd know people would recognize it.

Dirty Hoar
09-10-2008, 11:15 PM
Obama appears and sounds ragged-out in that video...almost exhausted.

I think Gov Palin has got so far inside his head that he is losing a lot of sleep at night. Makes me wonder if, or for how long he could handle the pressures of the presidency.

I didn't really see it but I'm sure he is. What, him rubbing his forehead?

I think he's frustrated because it's all just so silly. He wants to get down to business and move on. Presidential campaigns can help harden a candidate but I feel Obama will feel much more at home in the oval office.

hutash
09-11-2008, 02:44 PM
Obama made reference to a pig with lipstick without proper reference to John McCain who clearly used it during the primaries, and therefore holds all intellectual rights to its use.

steepconcrete
09-11-2008, 03:13 PM
at least its true unlike a lot of the material coming out of the mccain camp.

Smokey McPole
09-11-2008, 05:25 PM
Obama appears and sounds ragged-out in that video...almost exhausted.

I think Gov Palin has got so far inside his head that he is losing a lot of sleep at night. Makes me wonder if, or for how long he could handle the pressures of the presidency.

Has anybody else noticed how much he stutters lately?

Honestly, I think he's gonna pop pretty pretty pretty ummm...I....unnhhh...pretty soon.