Why Palin is scary...

[doughboyshredder]

uncle crud -- i was on the fence until mccain picked palin. i know of others that were too.

sftc -- relax, it was just a photo op. no biggie.

I was going to vote for Barr, until McSame picked Palin. Now, Obama gets my vote. I know of a few people that were in the same boat. In fact, I just got off the phone with a lady friend of mine that was voting Barr but now is so pissed at McSame for pandering to the female vote that she is voting for Obama.

[hutash]

This is an absurd argument. Lieberman or Ridge would have only appealed to those that are not going to vote for McCain.

McCain knew he had a problem. The grass roots traditional values republicans were not excited. Many were not going to vote for him. Many were only going to vote because the alternative is an ultra-liberal white American hating Marxist. Either way, there was a lack of enthusiasm. Winning campaigns require enthusiastic support. Palin gives him that support.

In other words...politics as usual. So much for the maverick that is going to change how Washington works. McSame old same old.

I agree, I was giving McCain a serious look, until this VP pick. Even if he dumps her, this choice tells me he lacks judgment, and is not fit to run the country.

[doughboyshredder]

You NEED to see this:

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and finally, "We will fight for you, we will die for you, we will kill for you"
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Seeing these videos really highlights my own issues. I feel no tolerance towards the people in the first three videos. In fact I can honestly say I feel hatred and disdain for them.

I just feel bad for the kids in the final video. No less brainwashed than the kids fighting for the taliban and al qaida, etc....


FUCK RELIGION.

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I'd warn this might be filed under "rumor"... but may be revealing none the less???

Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper): Palin Is “Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean” (http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%E2%80%9Cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%E2%80%9D/)


by Charley James –

“So Sambo beat the bitch!”

This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.

According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.

“It was kind of disgusting,” Lucille, who is part Aboriginal, said in a phone interview after admitting that she is frightened of being discovered telling folks in the “lower 48” about life near the North Pole.

Then, almost with a sigh, she added, “But that’s just Alaska.”

Racial and ethnic slurs may be “just Alaska” and, clearly, they are common, everyday chatter for Palin.

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On a more practical level, many people in Alaska, and particularly Wasilla, are reluctant to speak or be quoted by name because they’re afraid of her as well as the state Republican Party machine. Apparently, the power elite are as mean as the winters.

“The GOP is kind of like organized crime up here,” an insurance agent in Anchorage who knows the Palin family, explained. “It’s corrupt and arrogant. They’re all rich because they do private sweetheart deals with the oil companies, and they can destroy anyone. And they will, if they have to.”

“Once Palin became mayor,” he continued, “She became part of that inner circle.”

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(pages and pages more at link)

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[Cliff Huckable]

Not just pro-choice, but a member of Feminists For Life (http://www.feministsforlife.org/FAQ/index.htm). From the FFL website FAQ page:

Does Feminists for Life want to criminalize women for having abortions?
The early feminists enacted laws against abortion as consumer protection for women.

FFL has never advocated prosecuting women seeking abortion, although we believe that women are capable of following the law. Why doesn’t the law hold accountable those who threaten or coerce a woman into an abortion by withholding financial resources and emotional support? Abandonment is a powerful form of coercion.

We should criminalize anyone who withholds child support, fires a woman from her job because she is pregnant, refuses to accommodate her pregnancy, expels her from school, or threatens violence—-any act that forces her to choose between sacrificing her child and sacrificing her education, career plans, or safety from violence.

We believe that we should hold responsible those who profit from women’s pain—-especially the abortion industry.

Most important, we need to jump into hyperdrive to provide resources and solutions that will support women.


What is Feminists for Life's position on contraception?
Feminists for Life's mission is to address the unmet needs of women who are pregnant or parenting. Preconception issues including abstinence and contraception are outside of our mission. Some FFL members and supporters support the use of non-abortifacient contraception while others oppose contraception for a variety of reasons. FFL is concerned that certain forms of contraception have had adverse health effects on women.

Our membership enjoys a broad spectrum of opinion that reflects the diversity of opinions among the American public.

In the time of the early American feminists, sex between married couples was not always consensual. Many women bore 20 or more children, of whom only half survived. In order to affirm women’s rights within marriage, most feminist foremothers promoted “voluntary motherhood,” whereby women would have the education and right to fully participate in the decision to have sexual relations. FFL likewise supports life planning by focusing on one's education and career plans coupled with mentoring and empowering programs for teens.

Potential direct ties to the Pentacostal Dominionist (http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=964) movement. The fact that this line can even remotely be drawn is pretty horrific. Pay attention to "Joel's Army" and the youth movement. (Read what the Southern Poverty Law Center (http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=964) is saying about them.) She belongs to the congregation at the Juneau Christian Center (http://jccalaska.com) (which is an affiliate of the Assemblies of God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblies_of_God)) and at which Mike Rose (http://www.pastornet.net.au/renewal/journal7/evans.html) is the Pastor.

Palin is a staunch advocate of Creationism (http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/story/8347904p-8243554c.html) and the need for it top be taught in public schools. Need I really say more here?

She's admittedly completely ignorant to the job of the VP...
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as well as the War in Iraq:

" Alaska Business Monthly: We've lost a lot of Alaska's military members to the war in Iraq. How do you feel about sending more troops into battle, as President Bush is suggesting?

Palin: I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq. I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place; I want assurances that we are doing all we can to keep our troops safe. Every life lost is such a tragedy. I am very, very proud of the troops we have in Alaska, those fighting overseas for our freedoms, and the families here who are making so many sacrifices."

Her comments in tv interviews are flippant and idiotic and a clear indication of the tiny bubble in which her political career (and life) has taken place. Her so called record of reform is quickly falling apart under scrutiny as the reality of her involvement in "the bridge to nowhere",

From the New York Times (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/29/defining-sarah-palin/)
Anchorage Daily News article in October 2006 when Ms. Palin was running for the gubernatorial seat:

5. Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges?

Yes. I would like to see Alaska’s infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now–while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.

So she was very much for the bridge and insisted that Alaska had to act quickly—the party of Ted Stevens and Don Young might soon lose its majority, after all. By that point, though, the project was endangered for reasons that had nothing to do with Palin—the “Bridge to Nowhere” had become a national punchline, Congress had stripped away the offending earmark, moving the money back to the state’s general fund, and future federal support seemed unlikely. True, after Palin was sworn into office that fall, her first state budget didn’t allocate any money for the bridge. But when the Daily News asked on December 16, 2006, if she now opposed the project, Palin demurred and said she was simply trying to figure out where the bridge fit on the state’s list of transportation priorities, given the lack of support from Congress. Finally, on September 19, 2007, she decided to redirect funds away from the project altogether with this sorry-sounding statement:

“Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398 million bridge is not the answer,” said Governor Palin. “Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island,” Governor Palin added. “Much of the public’s attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened.”

and "big oil" battles come to light.


Top it off with not only support for drilling in ANWR but actually suing the Federal Govt. over the inclusion of Polar Bears on the endangered species list.
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Reality bump.

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Another interesting comparison... is Sarah Palin the 'new Bush'?

(as I got grief for shrinking the font size on the last longer post of mine... I've left this quote as the normal size=2)


Sarah Palin's real soul mate (http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/09/05/palin_bush/)
McCain's veep choice is the reincarnation of George W. Bush, as channeled by Karl Rove.

http://images.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/09/05/palin_bush/story.jpg

As the storm-shrunk Republican National Convention winds to a close, pundits have commented on the eerie absence of the man who, until Thursday evening, remains the party's nominal head: Other than his brief first-day message by satellite, our sitting president, George W. Bush, has been MIA from the St. Paul festivities, mentioned by few and eulogized by even fewer.

But Bush's ghost-at-the-feast status is hardly a sign that the Republicans have abandoned the recipe that won them consecutive terms in the Oval Office. Indeed, last night's official unveiling of Sarah Palin as their presumptive veep proved that the only change they're offering is savvier packaging. In Gov. Palin, the GOP has its new Bush, same as the old Bush, but more polished, more presentable, more user-friendly than the original ever was -- and, they hope, still fresh and unencumbered enough to run as a "maverick" against the legacy of Dubya 1.0's failures.

Mirror, Mirror

On the face of it, the duo seems as different as two individuals could be -- one, an Ivy-educated scion of a political dynasty, raised in wealth and privilege in the deep South, the other a defiantly blue-collar "hockey mom" born and bred in the Union's northernmost state -- but the deeper parallels are uncanny, in career arc, character and political positions, in strengths and flaws.

Both Bush and Palin hail from oil-rich Western expanses -- the second-largest and largest states in the nation, respectively -- whose size and rugged history encourage a particular kind of frontier sensibility: Stubborn, close-mouthed, self-deterministic and paradoxically capable of both hard-partying Saturdays and holy-roller Sundays. (And given that, it's hardly a surprise that both were wild and experimental in their youth, only to embrace deeply fundamentalist Christian convictions later in life.)

Both became governor of their states while still political neophytes, triumphing over veteran opponents despite slender résumés (six years as a part-time small-town mayor for Palin; a failed congressional campaign for Bush) and staggering odds against them. In their gubernatorial campaigns, they emphasized bold ideas and reform, even touting their lack of experience as an asset rather than a liability; while in state office, they became extraordinarily popular, thanks to deft populist instincts and immense personal magnetism, as well as an unusual ability to project an aura of moderation and post-partisanship ("I reached across the aisle"; "I'm a uniter, not a divider") even while engaged in viciously political behavior.

Part of what helps them preserve that firewall is the human cocoons with which they've surrounded themselves, tight circles of devoted long-term insiders whose primary virtue is unflagging loyalty, and who find themselves under furious attack should they, like Palin's ex-brother-in-law Mark Wooten, and a litany of former officials for Bush, dare to break ranks or spill secrets.

It's an environment that encourages a with-us-or-against-us, win-at-all-costs mentality, a mind-set that has been expressed in both their politics and their governance: More than any reforms she has brought to bear, it's Palin's streak of vindictiveness that has alienated her from Republican colleagues in Alaska, while Bush's reflexive belief that the world is the setting for a divine crusade of friends against enemies, good versus evil, is at the core of many of his administration's disastrous foreign policies. (Bush's simplistic reading of the global landscape seems to be echoed by Palin, who has referred to the Iraq war as a "task from God.")

If there's a common cause for Bush and Palin's less-than-complex worldview -- one that should disturb the security minded of both parties -- it's their profound disinterest in understanding or even experiencing other countries and cultures.

Prior to assuming office, Bush, despite having a father whose career included ambassador to China, director of the CIA and president of the United States, could recall only three times that he had ever gone overseas -- a trip to China with his dad in which he admittedly spent most of his time "trying to date Chinese women, unsuccessfully," and two ceremonial trips as governor, to the Middle East and Gambia, though he later amended this list to include a number of vacations and business trips he'd taken prior to holding public office.

Palin, meanwhile, applied for her first passport less than a year ago, in 2007 -- and then only to make a routine visit as governor to Alaska National Guardsmen stationed in Kuwait and Germany (with a refueling stopover in Ireland, a country that her spokespeople nonetheless included in her list of foreign visits).

And this, even more than Palin's wafer-thin résumé, is what makes her such a damning choice for McCain. Lack of foreign policy experience isn't a guarantee of foreign policy failure in our chief executive office -- Harry Truman, cited by Palin in her convention speech, performed ably abroad when he took up the presidency on FDR's passing, despite having spent much of his life as a haberdasher, farmer and local official. But Truman -- a Democrat -- was a thoughtful and voracious consumer of facts and opinions, particularly those related to foreign affairs, and his years as a U.S. senator gave him considerable opportunity to gather them on a global level prior to ascending to the executive -- the same opportunities afforded Sens. John McCain, Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

Palin, meanwhile, is notable for having told the press that she was so focused on her state that she "hadn't focused much on Iraq" -- despite the upcoming deployment to that country of her son, Track, an infantryman based in Fort Wainwright, Alaska. Her parochial mind-set -- Alaska First! Alaska Always! -- and willful ignorance regarding the greatest international issue facing our nation matches Dubya 1.0's famous dismissal of newspaper reading for lack of intellectual curiosity.

It's also worth noting another inartful aspect to Palin's Harry Truman shout-out: Truman became president when Roosevelt died suddenly of a massive cerebral hemorrhage, just 82 days into his final term in office. He was 63 years old -- almost a decade younger than McCain will be if he's elected.

Rovian Rope-a-Dope

What's ironic is that, according to Sidney Blumenthal, John McCain selected Palin as his running mate in an effort to distance himself from the president, and to undercut the Democratic line of attack that he was running as Bush's third term. Allegedly, says Blumenthal, he made the pick over the objections of both Bush and Karl Rove, now a key McCain advisor. But in doing so, he has selected the president's closest possible analogue, gender and geography aside. Which means that, in running from Bush, he essentially ran into Bush's arms.

And given the complete takeover of McCain's campaign by Rove and his disciples, it's hard not to think that the selection wasn't a fantastical piece of rope-a-dope on the part of master manipulator Rove, who by pushing Romney, terminating Lieberman and "begrudgingly" accepting Palin, now has the ingredients to reconcoct his Dubya success: a folksy, seemingly harmless outsider with rock-ribbed evangelical credentials, big-money connections and outsize ambitions, ready to be groomed to run for the Oval Office herself, or to stumble in by accident in the event of presidential tragedy.

In short, far from being angry at McCain's insubordination, Rove is undoubtedly rubbing his hands. Out with the old Bush, in with the new. Br'er Rove is in his laughing place; the Palin briar patch is where he wanted to be all along.

[Jer]

Is Sarah Palin the 'new bush'?


classic.

Rainbow Brite = funniest guy here.

:yourock:

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classic.

Rainbow Brite = funniest guy here.

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Sorry to say that was entirely unintentional... :redface: :cussing:


Another way to say the same thing???

"Sarah Palin is George Bush in lipstick. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/07/sarah-palin-george-bush-i_n_124654.html)"

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/37726/thumbs/r-PALIN-MORPHING-huge.jpg

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The media keeps finding more nuggets on Palin... wonder if any will ever stick?

She is billing the taxpayers the daily per diem meant for reimbursing travel expenses, when she spends the night AT HER OWN HOME. Also charging the state for her children's and husband's travels everywhere, including his dog sled and snowmobile races. :rolleyes2


Palin Billed State for Nights Spent at Home (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090803088.html?hpid=topnews)
Taxpayers Also Funded Family's Travel

ANCHORAGE, Sept. 8 -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a "per diem" allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.

The governor also has charged the state for travel expenses to take her children on official out-of-town missions. And her husband, Todd, has billed the state for expenses and a daily allowance for trips he makes on official business for his wife.

Palin, who earns $125,000 a year, claimed and received $16,951 as her allowance, which officials say was permitted because her official "duty station" is Juneau, according to an analysis of her travel documents by The Washington Post.

The governor's daughters and husband charged the state $43,490 to travel, and many of the trips were between their house in Wasilla and Juneau, the capital city 600 miles away, the documents show.

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The family also charged for flights around the state, including trips to Alaska events such as the start of the Iditarod dog-sled race and the Iron Dog snowmobile race, a contest that Todd Palin won.

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Of course the Republican Governor's spokesperson is saying this isn't unusual, and although it sounds like the previous Republican Governor was even more brazen in this ripoff... it looks like in the period prior to 2000 it wasn't looked upon favorably;


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In the past, per diem claims by Alaska state officials have carried political risks. In 1988, the head of the state Commerce Department was pilloried for collecting a per diem charge of $50 while staying in his Anchorage home, according to local news accounts. The commissioner, the late Tony Smith, resigned amid a series of controversies.

"It was quite the little scandal," said Tony Knowles, the Democratic governor from 1994 to 2000. "I gave a direction to all my commissioners if they were ever in their house, whether it was Juneau or elsewhere, they were not to get a per diem because, clearly, it is and it looks like a scam -- you pay yourself to live at home," he said.

"And the policy was not to reimburse for family travel on commercial airlines, because there is no direct public benefit to schlepping kids around the state," he said. The rules were articulated by Mike Nizich, then director of administrative services in the governor's office, said Knowles and an aide to another former governor, Walter Hickel.
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Nizich is now Palin's chief of staff. He did not return a phone call seeking comment. The rules governing family travel on state-owned aircraft appear less clear. Knowles said he operated under the understanding that immediate family could accompany the governor without charge.

But during the Murkowski years, that practice was questioned, and the state attorney general's office produced an opinion saying laws then in effect required reimbursement for spousal travel.

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Until JUST NOW I've thought of Palin as not near ready for the task of being a heart beat away from being President... Although I had read about her religious comments, and have heard others here express fear about her on that issue, I HAD NO SPECIFIC FEAR OF HER RELIGION... UNTIL NOW!!! :eek:


The pastor who clashed with Palin (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/15/bess/index.html)
Baptist minister Howard Bess, who wrote a book Palin wanted banned and who fought her on abortion and gay rights, says the country should fear her election.

Sept. 15, 2008 | WASILLA, Alaska -- The Wasilla Assembly of God, the evangelical church where Sarah Palin came of age, was still charged with excitement on Sunday over Palin's sudden ascendance. Pastor Ed Kalnins warned his congregation not to talk with any journalists who might have been lurking in the pews -- and directly warned this reporter not to interview any of his flock. But Kalnins and other speakers at the service reveled in Palin's rise to global stardom.

It confirmed, they said, that God was making use of Wasilla. "She will take our message to the world!" rejoiced an Assembly of God youth ministry leader, as the church band rocked the high-vaulted wooden building with its electric gospel.

That is what scares the Rev. Howard Bess. A retired American Baptist minister who pastors a small congregation in nearby Palmer, Wasilla's twin town in Alaska's Matanuska Valley, Bess has been tangling with Palin and her fellow evangelical activists ever since she was a Wasilla City Council member in the 1990s. Recently, Bess again found himself in the spotlight with Palin, when it was reported that his 1995 book, "Pastor, I Am Gay," was among those Palin tried to have removed from the Wasilla Public Library when she was mayor.

"She scares me," said Bess. "She's Jerry Falwell with a pretty face."

"At this point, people in this country don't grasp what this person is all about. The key to understanding Sarah Palin is understanding her radical theology."

Bess -- a fit-looking, 80-year-old man in a gray University of Illinois sweatshirt and blue jeans – spoke with me over coffee at the Vagabond Blues, a cafe in Palmer with a stunning view of the nearby snow-capped Chugach Mountains. The retired minister moved to the Mat-Su Valley with his wife, Darlene, in 1987, after his outspoken defense of gay rights at Baptist churches in the Santa Barbara, Calif., area and Anchorage landed him in trouble with church officials. In the Mat-Su Valley, Bess plunged into community activism, helping launch an assortment of projects, from an arts council to a shelter for the mentally disabled.

Inevitably, his work brought him into conflict with Palin and other highly politicized Christian fundamentalists in the valley. "Things got very intense around here in the '90s -- the culture war was very hot here," Bess said. "The evangelicals were trying to take over the valley. They took over the school board, the community hospital board, even the local electric utility. And Sarah Palin was in the direct center of all these culture battles, along with the churches she belonged to."

Bess' first run-in with Palin's religious forces came when he decided to write his book, "Pastor, I Am Gay." The book was the result of a theological journey that began in the 1970s when Bess was asked for guidance by a closeted homosexual in his Santa Barbara congregation. After deep reflection on the subject, Bess came to the conclusion that "gay people were not sick, nor they were special sinners."

In his book, Bess suggests that gays have a divine mission. "Look back at the life of our Lord Jesus. He was misunderstood, deserted, unjustly accused, and cruelly killed. Yet we all confess that it was the will of God, for by his wounds we are healed ... Could it be that the homosexual, obedient to the will of God, might be the church's modern day healer-messiah?"

When it was published in 1995, Bess' book caused an immediate storm in the Mat-Su Valley, an evangelical stronghold dotted with storefront churches. Conservative ministers targeted the book, and the only bookstore in the valley that dared to stock it -- Shalom Christian Books and Gifts – soon dropped it after the owner was barraged with angry phone calls. The Frontiersman, the local newspaper that ran a column by Bess for seven years, fired him and ran a vicious cartoon that suggested even drooling child molesters would be welcomed by Bess' church.

And after she became mayor of Wasilla, according to Bess, Sarah Palin tried to get rid of his book from the local library. Palin now denies that she wanted to censor library books, but Bess insists that his book was on a "hit list" targeted by Palin. "I'm as certain of that as I am that I'm sitting here. This is a small town, we all know each other. People in city government have confirmed to me what Sarah was trying to do."

Soon after the book controversy, Bess found himself again at odds with Palin and her fellow evangelicals. In 1996, evangelical churches mounted a vigorous campaign to take over the local hospital's community board and ban abortion from the valley. When they succeeded, Bess and Dr. Susan Lemagie, a Palmer OB-GYN, fought back, filing suit on behalf of a local woman who had been forced to travel to Seattle for an abortion. The case was finally decided by the Alaska Supreme Court, which ruled that the hospital must provide valley women with the abortion option.

At one point during the hospital battle, passions ran so hot that local antiabortion activists organized a boisterous picket line outside Dr. Lemagie's office, in an unassuming professional building across from Palmer's Little League field. According to Bess and another community activist, among the protesters trying to disrupt the physician's practice that day was Sarah Palin.

Another valley activist, Philip Munger, says that Palin also helped push the evangelical drive to take over the Mat-Su Borough school board. "She wanted to get people who believed in creationism on the board," said Munger, a music composer and teacher. "I bumped into her once after my band played at a graduation ceremony at the Assembly of God. I said, 'Sarah, how can you believe in creationism -- your father's a science teacher.' And she said, 'We don't have to agree on everything.'

"I pushed her on the earth's creation, whether it was really less than 7,000 years old and whether dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. And she said yes, she'd seen images somewhere of dinosaur fossils with human footprints in them."

Munger also asked Palin if she truly believed in the End of Days, the doomsday scenario when the Messiah will return. "She looked in my eyes and said, 'Yes, I think I will see Jesus come back to earth in my lifetime.'"

Bess is unnerved by the prospect of Palin -- a woman whose mind is given to dogmatic certitude -- standing one step away from the Oval Office. "It's truly frightening that someone like Sarah has risen to the national level," Bess said. "Like all religious fundamentalists -- Christian, Jewish, Muslim -- she is a dualist. They view life as an ongoing struggle to the finish between good and evil. Their mind-set is that you do not do business with evil -- you destroy it. Talking with the enemy is not part of their plan. That puts someone like Obama on the side of evil.

"Forget all this chatter about whether or not she knows what the Bush doctrine is. That's trivial. The real disturbing thing about Sarah is her mind-set. It's her underlying belief system that will influence how she responds in an international crisis, if she's ever in that position, and has the full might of the U.S. military in her hands. She gave some indication of that thinking in her ABC interview, when she suggested how willing she would be to go to war with Russia.

"Alaskans liked that certitude when she was dealing with corrupt politicians and the oil industry -- and there is something admirable about it. But when you're dealing with a complex and dangerous world as commander in chief, that's a different story."

Bess said that he and fellow valley residents have long been charmed by the Sarah Palin who is now dazzling the American public. Despite their strong political differences, "she always has a warm greeting for me when we bump into each other. She's the most charming person you'll ever know."

"But," Bess adds, "this person's election would be a disaster for the country and the world."

[Buster Highmen]

If I were Emporor of the Universe, I would force all political campaigns to be disseminated only in the presence of really loud and cheesy calliope music.

This is too bizarre to be believed.

[splat]

And Vachel Lindsay will narrate:
(even though I thought Calliope was his best work, this one seems fitting)

Foreign Missions in Battle Array

An endless line of splendor,
These troops with heaven for home,
With creeds they go from Scotland,
With incense go from Rome.
These, in the name of Jesus,
Against the dark gods stand,
They gird the earth with valor,
They heed their King's command.

Onward the line advances,
Shaking the hills with power,
Slaying the hidden demons,
The lions that devour.
No bloodshed in the wrestling,
But souls new-born arise
The nations growing kinder,
The child-hearts growing wise.

What is the final ending?
The issue, can we know?
Will Christ outlive Mohammed?
Will Kali's altar go?
This is our faith tremendous,
Our wild hope, who shall scorn,
That in the name of Jesus
The world shall be reborn!

[Crud's Uncle]

I am convinced. McCain is going to be elected. Palin will kill him. She will then kill the Supreme Court Justices and 51 Senators. She will replace them with people from her church. Next she will only allow libraries to stock the bible. She will take over the schools and program the children to become Palinites. She will declare herself dictator. She will kill all the cats and dogs. And worst of all she will ban























skis wider than 75 mm. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Yonder_River]

http://www.getthebigpicture.net/storage/posters/juneau.jpg

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McCain and Palin have made Palins #1 qualification for being a suitable VP, that she is a "Reformer"... Guess Palin's decorating style??? "Bordello" chic!!! :D


Sarah Palin's wasteful ways (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/)
She poses as a fiscal watchdog, but when Palin was mayor, she grabbed city funds to give her office a pricey "bordello" makeover.

Sept. 17, 2008 | WASILLA, Alaska -- Sarah Palin has been touting herself as fiscal watchdog throughout her political career. But Palin's tenure as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, was characterized by waste, cronyism and incompetence, according to government officials in the Matanuska Valley, where she began her fairy-tale political rise.

"Executive abilities? She doesn't have any," said former Wasilla City Council member Nick Carney, who selected and groomed Palin for her first political race in 1992 and served with her after her election to the City Council.

Four years later, the ambitious Palin won the Wasilla mayor's office -- after scorching the "tax and spend mentality" of her incumbent opponent. But Carney, Palin's estranged former mentor, and others in city hall were astounded when they found out about a lavish expenditure of Palin's own after her 1996 election. According to Carney, the newly elected mayor spent more than $50,000 in city funds to redecorate her office, without the council's authorization

"I thought it was an outrageous expense, especially for someone who had run as a budget cutter," said Carney. "It was also illegal, because Sarah had not received the council's approval."

According to Carney, Palin's office makeover included flocked, red wallpaper. "It looked like a bordello."

Although Carney says he no longer has documentation of the expenditures, in his recollection Palin paid for the office face-lift with money from a city highway fund that was used to plow snow, grade roads and fill potholes -- essential municipal services, particularly in weather-battered Alaska.

Carney confronted Mayor Palin at a City Council hearing, and was shocked by her response.

"I braced her about it," he said. "I told her it was against the law to make such a large expenditure without the council taking a vote. She said, 'I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'"

"I'll never forget it -- it's one of the few times in my life I've been speechless," Carney added. "It would have been easier for her to finesse it. She had the votes on the council by then, she controlled it. But she just pushed forward. That's Sarah. She just has no respect for rules and regulations."

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(snip... lots more on her wasteful spending history and backstabbing ways)

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[hutash]

Some interesting articles here....http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/ (Tim's link above). There are several about her and the effects in and around Alaska.

I know nothing about Salon. I assume it is a left leaning elite liberal rag, but if anybody has any useful information or opinions about it I would be curious to hear them.

[Jer]

Floating, bumping, the noses dodge a tooth - the fins are luminous. Fangs all around the clown is dark below the boulders hiding all.

[splat]

Some interesting articles here....http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/ (Tim's link above). There are several about her and the effects in and around Alaska.

I know nothing about Salon. I assume it is a left leaning elite liberal rag, but if anybody has any useful information or opinions about it I would be curious to hear them.

Is printing well-researched stories with ample quotes from a good source now considered left-leaning?
Like exposing Valerie Plame?

It's just that the right went so far over, what was left is really just center now. Or vice versa.

[hutash]

Is printing well-researched stories with ample quotes from a good source now considered left-leaning?
Like exposing Valerie Plame?

It's just that the right went so far over, what was left is really just center now. Or vice versa.

It is certainly easy to write a left, or right, leaning article with lots of research and quotes. It is all about what research and quotes are used. I thought they where good articles, but these days with so much media having their own agendas I am curious about their overall purpose. I have read some good articles in Mother Jones, but there is a certain bias one needs to know about when reading them.

I didn't mean to sound accusatory about Salon. If I turned on Fox News for the first time without knowing its bias it would be hard to get accurate information. It is a sad statement of today's journalism, but that is they way things seem to be going.

[Jer]

McCain and Palin have made Palins #1 qualification for being a suitable VP, that she is a "Reformer"... Guess Palin's decorating style??? "Bordello" chic!!! :D

Seriously Rainbow - go outside or something. Really. It's nice out. I'm packing up all my shit right now and going to S. Door Co. for some windsurfing. Meet me there - we can do a TR or something. I'm thinking of Shoemaker Point or maybe Oakwood on the bay side. It's probably about the same drive for you as it is for me. I should be there about noon or 1 pm.

Really - I'm worried about you. I think you may know more about Sarah Palin than Sarah Palin.:eek:

[timvwcom]

Guess what now...

Sarah Palin has been billing the state of Alaska to go to church in Wasilla (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PALIN_CHURCH_AND_STATE?SITE=TXWIC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT) and elsewhere. :rolleyes2

[timvwcom]

Quoted price to obtain official state of Alaska emails on Palin: $15 million...

So much for the platform of clean and transparent government from Sarah Palins last campaign;


Want Palin's e-mails? That'll be $15 million (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27228287/)

By Bill Dedman
Investigative reporter
msnbc
updated 12:00 a.m. CT, Fri., Oct. 17, 2008

Sarah Palin's office has discovered a renewable resource to bring millions of dollars into Alaska's economy: the governor's e-mails.

The office of the Republican vice-presidential nominee has quoted prices as high as $15 million for copies of state e-mails requested by news organizations and citizens. No matter what the price, most of the e-mails of Palin, her senior staff and other state employees won't be made public until at least several weeks after the Nov. 4 presidential election, her office told msnbc.com on Thursday.

How did the cost reach $15 million? Let's look at a typical request. When the Associated Press asked for all state e-mails sent to the governor's husband, Todd Palin, her office said it would take up to six hours of a programmer's time to assemble the e-mail of just a single state employee, then another two hours for "security" checks, and finally five hours to search the e-mail for whatever word or topic the requestor is seeking. At $73.87 an hour, that's $960.31 for a single e-mail account. And there are 16,000 full-time state employees. The cost quoted to the AP: $15,364,960.

And that's not including the copying costs. Although the e-mails are stored electronically in Microsoft Outlook and on backup servers, and although a blank CD-ROM costs only 41 cents at Capital Office Supply in Juneau, the governor's office says it can provide copies only on paper.

Why? Because lawyers need printouts so they can black out, or "redact," private or exempted information. That task is more difficult because Palin and her senior staff have used government e-mail accounts for some personal correspondence, and personal e-mail accounts for much of their government correspondence. The photocopies of those printouts will be a relative bargain, only 10 cents a page. A state administrator said he understood that such redaction could be done electronically, but that state offices weren't set up to do that.

That process of deleting information is likely to be so lengthy that most requestors won't be able to see the records until well after the next president and vice president are chosen, Palin's office said.

E-mail sent between the governor's staff and their private Yahoo e-mail accounts won't be collected until Oct. 31. Searches will take an additional two weeks, until Nov. 14. And then the legal review of each e-mail will begin. There's no telling how long that will take, because no one knows how many e-mails there are, wrote Linda J. Perez, administrative director for the governor, in a letter she sent to the state attorney general seeking approval for a delay.

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[Rubicon]

Snurk...now c'mon, isn't this just a teensy bit of hysterial hyperbole?

"A while back I chatted with a University of Chicago professor who was a frequent lunch companion of Obama's. This professor said that Obama was as close to a full-out Marxist as anyone who has ever run for president of the United States."

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/10/16/did-barack-spread-the-wealth-obama-just-blow-the-election.html

[hutash]

She is even more of an environmental obstructionist then the Bush administration. She has been fight to keep the beluga whales of the endanger species list (at least a local population), that even Bush's anti-environment interior department added.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-beluga18-2008oct18,0,4539370.story


On Friday, Palin released a statement saying: "The state of Alaska has had serious concerns about the low population of belugas in Cook Inlet for many years. However, we believe that this endangered listing is premature."

Earlier, Palin had said that "an unnecessary federal listing and designation of critical habitat would do serious long-term damage to the vibrant economy of the Cook Inlet area."

[schindlerpiste]

Click in the link. Once inside, use your mouse to navigate.
http://www.palinaspresident.us/

Sorry if this has been posted before. I haven't seen it.

[skifishbum]

And Vachel Lindsay will narrate:
(even though I thought Calliope was his best work, this one seems fitting)

Foreign Missions in Battle Array

An endless line of splendor,
These troops with heaven for home,
With creeds they go from Scotland,
With incense go from Rome.
These, in the name of Jesus,
Against the dark gods stand,
They gird the earth with valor,
They heed their King's command.

Onward the line advances,
Shaking the hills with power,
Slaying the hidden demons,
The lions that devour.
No bloodshed in the wrestling,
But souls new-born arise
The nations growing kinder,
The child-hearts growing wise.

What is the final ending?
The issue, can we know?
Will Christ outlive Mohammed?
Will Kali's altar go?
This is our faith tremendous,
Our wild hope, who shall scorn,
That in the name of Jesus
The world shall be reborn!

Whoah thats deep;)
I tunes shuffle kicked out this one while I was reading this so I'll post some asshattery


They say he didn't have an enemy
His was a greatness to behold
He was the last surviving progeny
The last one on this side of the world
He measured half a mile from tip to tail silver and black with powerful fins
They say he could split a mountainin two
Thats how we got the Grand Canyon
Some say they saw him at the Great Lakes
Some say they saw him off the coast of Florida
My mother said she saw him in Chinatown but you can't always trust your mother
Off the Carolinas the sun shines brightly in the day
The lighthouse glows ghostly there at night
The Cheif of a local tribe had killed a racist mayors son and been on death row since 1958
The mayors kid was a rowdy pig spit on Indians and lots worse
The old chief buried a hatchet in his head
Life compared to death seemed much worse
The tribal brothers gathered in the lighthouse to sing and try and conjure up a storm or rain
The harbor parted and the great whale sprang full up and caused a hudge tidal wave
The wave crushed the jail and freed the chief
The tribe let out a roar
The whites were drowned and the browns and reds set free but sadly one thing more
Some local yokel member of the NRA kept a bazooka in his living room and thinking he had the chief in his sights blew the whales brain out w/ a lead harpoon
Well Americans don't care much of anything land and water the least
And animal life is low on the totem pole
With human life not worth more than infected yeast
Americans don't care to much for beauty
They'll shit in a river dump battery acid in a stream
They'll watch dead rats wash up on the beach and complain if they can't swim
They say things are done for the majority
Don't believe half of what you see and none of what you hear
It's a lot like what my painter friend Donald said to me
Stick a fork in their ass and turn them over they're done
The Last Great American Whale
-Lou Reed

[schindlerpiste]

While we're quoting Lou Reed, I'll throw this political asshatery out:

"Are you political, Lou? Audience: "Yeah, are you?" LR:"Political about what? You give me an issue, I'll give you a tissue and wipe my ass with it."
At the Bottom Line 1978. Take No Prisoners.

Kinda sums up my political mindset.

Check out the video. I was at this concert...one of the best evah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW4outnu6os