Summit Flame Thread

[Karl Stall]

O.K. - let's have it out. I thought that we voted twice and Jackson won both polls. Also, we would need to move the summit into February to garner best possible conditions if it's Jackson.

Clearly, whichever resort doesn't get the bid this year will get the next one so it's academic.

Maybe the best solution is to table this until we see how the winter is shaping up next Nov-Dec and go where the jet is flowing - Both JH and W/B can suck if it's not their year.

How are we going to actually arrive at a decision? Vote, Committee, Benevolent Dictator?

Just my 2 cents...let discord ensue...

[gincognito]

Ha! At least we're talking Summit again...

I didn't mean to discredit Jackson's win, I just thought that a showdown might be in order. Some ranting and raving followed by a simple poll with just the top two contenders. No vote stealing options. No fringe distractions. Winner take all.

Sick and ashamed and happy (and the real winner will be whoever steps up to organimize!),
d.

[grrrr]

I think the Olympic Bid process gets my vote. If we're going to hold it somewhere, someone should pony up and offer to organize. If no one ponies up, it could end up a dead dog (my only worry about JH).

I for one am nominating Prez day week as the week. And I will jump in to help, repeat help organize a Whistler trip.

Any takers?

[EPSkis]

Just musing ~ If you wait until Nov/Dec to start making reservations, it could get ugly.

I try to make reservations as FAR in advance as possible, and speaking for myself - I wouldn't be real comfortable waiting that long to begin planning...

[Karl Stall]

Frozen, Jiffy, Suit, TGR420, et al. to the white courtesy phone please.


It would be cool to have it in Jackson and get the TGR folks stoked (something that I belive is easy to do) to get involved, and it would be appropriate consideration of their generous hosting of our rantings here on the intraweb.

I would recommend one of the weekends on either side and bookend it with pres day.

Also, I would volunteer to coordinate enlisting others to organize - I already do that for a living.

[gincognito]

Yeah, doesn't the ball usually start rolling fairly early? Big E, Tyrone, Rusty: When did you guys commit to the challenge? If memory serves it was sometime early/mid summer.

Sick and ashamed and happy (and maybe we need another poll to nominate organizers...;) ),
d.

edit: Karl slipped one in there - my reply was to EP

[teledave]

Originally posted by EPSkis
Just musing ~ If you wait until Nov/Dec to start making reservations, it could get ugly.

I try to make reservations as FAR in advance as possible, and speaking for myself - I wouldn't be real comfortable waiting that long to begin planning...

Same here.

Edit: Nevermind.

Week of and weekend after Prez Day would prolly be good, but I wouldn't think the opposite situation would work very well.

[Woodsy]

since we are borging into a bigger & Bigger slice of people,
why not 2 summits
JH in Feb
Whistler in April

accomodate different schedules.

as much as I would love to make JH in Feb, honestly I doubt I can get away in the heart of my season.

Whistler in April though......,
although outside of UT & CO skiing I dont know crap so fwiw...................

[Karl Stall]

I am going to PM The Suit right now....re: tgr's official interest in helping

[grrrr]

Originally posted by teledave
Edit: Unless you mean something more like what KS was saying with the bookend idea.

'xactly. I'd go for the week after.

[divegirl]

I'd just like to say this: I honestly don't care where it is, because it will be in the other location the following year. As for planning, good luck...I say the first person to step up to the plate to plan either one, wins.

Go.

[AntiSoCalSkier]

I'm voting we do this like they choose the location for the next Olympics. I'm nominating myself to the selcetion committee. I accept PayPal, free vacations, equipment, or pretty much anything else of value.

[joshbu]

Woodsy - Honest question: if we can't find 1 person to organize 1 summit, how are we going to pull off 2? Plus, there's going to be another Utah Mini, and probably other related events. I honestly think we just need to get an organizer type person and let them make the final call. If they're really ambitious, maybe they can work both resorts and go with the one that cuts us better group deals?

[Karl Stall]

I pm'd Mr. Suit, and think that we should at least check with them first. They are some of the best event organizers around given their long track record of pulling off epic film premiers, golf tourney's, etc.

The way I see it, they would function as a sub-advisor, working in coordination with some maggot organizers to make it a sweet event. If they are game, I will work with them to help make it cool.

However, I am superstitious and figure that if I make a big deal out of this and get it to JH, it will snow 2 meters of snow in W/B that week, and I will be sacrificed to Ullr for my transgression.

[Buster Highmen]

I nominate Karl Stall, that pickle packing, Rendezvous, Apres Airfarce, kinda goy.

[Cosmic Bandito]

Why don't we just hook on with the Skiing Brotherhood? Or is it the Brotherhood of Skiing? Those cats throw one mean shindig.

Pass the Courvasier!!

[iceman]

Okay, I'm glad we got that settled. It's in Jackson over the week follwing Prez Day, and Frozen's the organizer.

That was easy.

[EPSkis]

The logistics of that would be HUGE.

I'm kind of surprised that JH isn't already a done deal. We'd be at TGR's doorstep. Helloooooo!

The logistics of getting everything arranged in JH with even minimal assistance from (somebody) at TGR are greatly reduced. I don't think you'd be twisting anyone's arm at TGR to ask for some "insider help" as far as referrals, etc.

IMO, If we have the opportunity to have the Summit in TGR's playground ~ We'd be silly NOT to.

Besides, they won't have to drive anywhere to film all the action. We'd go to THEM!
:D

[Big E]

Rusty started on the Utah one in October/November I think, I started in August, and Shoe started in May I think.

Given what we've done in the past, and the fact that each year it gets a little bigger and we do more stuff, waiting until November would be death. Either someone would have to do the same ridiculous amount of work the 3 of us have done, but compressed into a much tighter span (particularly if its in Feb), or it will be a huge unorganized mess. In order to do stuff like the charity day at Red or the Valhalla cat day, getting things on the calendar early is crucial. It would be even more critical at either JH or W/B, given they're much larger, more big-corporation resorts than the mom-and-pop places of interior BC.

[The Suit]

TGR would love to see a summit here in Jackson. Earlier in the season is definitely better for us, as we start to have a lot of people out of town filming by late February.

We can help with organization, especially if we're mostly needed for contacts, advice, etc. I don't think we can take on responsibility for organizing the whole shebang, though.

Skiing, snowboarding, partying, mocking ... we can help with all of that.

[EPSkis]

Originally posted by The Suit
TGR would love to see a summit here in Jackson. Earlier in the season is definitely better for us, as we start to have a lot of people out of town filming by late February.

We can help with organization, especially if we're mostly needed for contacts, advice, etc. I don't think we can take on responsibility for organizing the whole shebang, though.

Skiing, snowboarding, partying, mocking ... we can help with all of that.

As I was saying...

There. So it's done?

:)

edit: Now we just have to find the local that can dedicate the next 6 months of his/her life to making it happen.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Yeah like BigE said.....

I think I volunteered to organize Tahoe very early....like May-ish. I basically just started compiling an email list of people who were interested so that I'd know how many people to expect, so that I'd have some sense to how big the thing was going to be, and how much work was going to be needed. I really starting ramping up the rest of the efforst in the fall.

Someone needs to step up as organizer of this sucker soon.

Doesn't have to be a local though....Rusty and BigE did killer jobs on their respective summits and were not locals.

[bagtagley]

Hasn't Jackson won twice now?

[Buzzworthy]

Originally posted by Karl Stall
O.K. - let's have it out. Also, we would need to move the summit into February to garner best possible conditions if it's Jackson.



I like the idea of Jackon for the summit. I supported that before.

But we normally do the Utah Mini summit is late Mid to late Feb.

And yes, it may be a MINI summit, we still had about 80 maggots for those 5 wonderful days. We have had killer weather and great storms during this time, but MINI summits. I really do not want to change that, as the smiles on peolples faces (full of pow) were epic.

My 2 cents.

[Summit]

I think it would be a good idea to have polls that don't just ask where it would be coolest to have the 05 summit, but polls that see what locations would allow the greatest attendance. Perhaps more people vote on JH but more people would actually be able to attend in the CO San Juans.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I'm going to start a poll asking what additional polls people want to have.

[Foggy_Goggles]

Originally posted by EPSkis
Just musing ~ If you wait until Nov/Dec to start making reservations, it could get ugly.

I try to make reservations as FAR in advance as possible, and speaking for myself - I wouldn't be real comfortable waiting that long to begin planning...

Not in Jackson. I've never had a problem getting a room with 48hrs notice. I could see it beeing a problem at WB, but not in Wyo. I rarely plan a vaca until the snow starts piling up. Where am I going this year? Wherever its snowing.

[splat]

Todd & Dirk: " Welcome to Jackson, Fred"
Frozen: "Thanks, how many people do you think the office could sleep for a week in February?"

Hmmmmm...San Juans - makes me think we could have a Coloraggot slugfest as a sideline activity. (sorry, SC, I just had to say it)

[Cosmic Bandito]

I wonder if we could rent out the whole of Hostel X?

[bagtagley]

Let's have a poll to see if the first 2 polls were valid. Assuming they weren't, we can then have a poll to determine the format for the newest poll on the location of the Summit. We can use the results from that poll to poll people and see if they're happy with the most recent poll format results. Then we can poll for the 2005 Summit location...again. Then, we can have poll on a better method of determing things than polls.

Finally, we can have a poll to determine if it ever snows in Colorado.

[splat]

We could likely get the X if we booked now.

[Blurred]

There's been a summit in Whistler, but not in Jackson, correct? So what's the big controversy?

[bagtagley]

Originally posted by BlurredElevens
There's been a summit in Whistler, but not in Jackson, correct? So what's the big controversy?

Nope, no Summit at W/B. There was one in central/eastern BC though.

[snowsprite]

Just a thought re: timing...if the Utah mini is generally in Feb, and Suit says the earlier the better...maybe a January date? Or March like the Tahoe summit 04.

Sprite

[splat]

For the love of snow - Valentines Day Massacreee at Jackson.

[teledave]

Originally posted by snowsprite
Just a thought re: timing...if the Utah mini is generally in Feb, and Suit says the earlier the better...maybe a January date? Or March like the Tahoe summit 04.

Sprite

Or possibly do The Summit in early Feb, and push UT to 1st-mid March? All of those times are pretty much just as powder prolifierous for UT.

I'm up to my $0.04 now.

And Splat, please not over V-Day, I'd like to get laid again before June afterwards.

[Big E]

This is beginning to sound like a lot of the meetings I end up at.

JH has won twice I think, the sugar-daddy's of our new cyber-home is based there, geez, we can do W/B the following year, it ain't going anywhere (actually, side note, weren't we doing the 2010 Summit in W/B to coincide w/ the Olympics? )

Now somebody step up and organize this sucka. You'll get lots of help, but organizationally-impaired maggots should NOT volunteer.

[CantDog]

how many folks attended this past summit?

[Rusty Nails]

Who should organize?

Preference for a local, but local base is not required.

Others:
Iceman -- a great excuse to the wife about why you MUST be there

Odin: -- yer gonna be traveling the west during that period, right? Why not play hostee?

Bozeman maggots? -- It's not too far away for somewhat local coordination

KS -- if you do something like this for a living anyway, what's a little extra work -- you won't have to buy a beer all week...


It's really more or less organized chaos anyway, so if you step up to the plate, you can get creative with what you plan. Good luck to whoever decides to contribute in putting together the 4th Annual!

[iceman]

I already gave Frozen the job, he just doesn't know it yet.

[snowsprite]

I'll help out w/ the web site (whether I can go or not)!

Innominatus might let us pop it on his server again.

Sprite

[comish]

Jackson is definitely better in early Feb or late Jan (late enough to have good coverage). Having lived there the freeze-thaw cycle can kill most of the east and south facing aspects accessed from the village.

Move the Utah mini to March 1st ish and then do Jackson early Feb/late Jan.

[Tippster]

Bummer. :(

I was hoping for a scheduling repeat of last year, with the Mini in early Feb. and Maxi in March...

I have my timeshare in LCC the week of Feb. 8th. I guess I'll just look for Frizzo in the 'Bird's park...

[Karl Stall]

Originally posted by splat
We could likely get the X if we booked now.


That's what I am talking about!


I will definitely help organize, but I do not want to go it alone. In fact, as "organizer" my first task would be to appoint Frozenwater as our "on the ground" coordinator - there, I just managed the process :D

We'll make this sucker work, and I will be on the organizing committee. Jiffy will chair the committee, and Frozen will head the logistics subcommittee. Now my head hurts.

[Buzzworthy]

One more reason for Jackson:

http://www.tetongravity.com/usergalleries/albums/userpics/10542/normal_117_1789.JPG

[frozenwater]

wowa...just read this thing.

Guys, I probably will have no problem being the main go to guy for this, with the help of those who have already offered.

My only fear is that my immediate future is pretty busy, moving - finishing old job, starting new job, finding a place to live ---little things.

I also take new jobs expecting to put in insane amounts of hours to catch up. I don't know what to expect at TGR yet really. I'm not sure if I would even be able to get out of work to ski during the summit.

Now, having told you my fears - if you cyber geeks can accept my limitations, and if I have Karl Stall as a right hand man, sprite doing the web, and others helping out where needed....

GULP

then I accept, I'll organize the hell out of this thing.

Also if I am going to do this, it is going to be in Jackson Hole - and probably should be in early Feb as per "the suits" recomendation.

F

[Rusty Nails]

GAME ON!

[Steven S. Dallas]

Originally posted by Woodsy
why not 2 summits
JH in Feb
Whistler in April

Because then I couldn't go to either.

Most college and grad-school types will have their spring break in March sometime, but that's probably a minority of potential attendees.

Screw you, old men and high school students!

MINIONS GOIN' WILD IN 2005!

And yes, I will show you my tits.

[crashnburn'd]

Originally posted by Alex P. Keaton

Screw you, old men and high school students!

MINIONS GOIN' WILD IN 2005!



I support his opinions, Feb and Apr are not options for anyone in school. I think this is a fairly large group...

[CantDog]

I third the above opinions. If not, you guys can suck it and APK, crash, and I will make our own summit, and it will be much cooler. and you naysayers cant come.

[kush1]

Damn it looks like I'll prob have to miss another one!! Damn school damn it all to hell................what are the chances I can get spring break moved to early Feb??

[Tippster]

I'll just sit here very quietly praying for a mid-January (10th-ish?) Summit date. Many Universities have at least some part of January off, BTW...

[TJ.Brk]

Originally posted by CantDog
how many folks attended this past summit?

Not as many as before from what I am told. Realistically half of the maggots come from the east coast. Many have familys that they take on vacations as well. It is very rough on the eastcoast maggot to attend anything outwest.

Especially JH. Yes it is a killer place. Yes I feel the summit should be held there because TGR opened their doors for us. But I can't afford to attend. And I know many rightcoast maggots will not be attending either for financial reasons.

But if the summit were held at WB then many rightcoast maggots could attend because it would cost them less. From previous major summits it was for all Maggots to be able to attend. Not just west coast maggots. The financial hardship of right coast maggots very much so needs to be taken into consideration when selecting a summit site.

To be fair a summit should be held on the right coast as well. But no westcoast maggot will attend that. In a way, although not intended by any means, the right coast maggot is penelized because of their location. The right coast has great mountains to ski as well, but no maggot west of the Mississipi will come here. And that isn't fair to any of us right coast skiers.

A large expense burden is placed upon us right coast skiers. And sometimes people do not take that into account for us when summit sites are considered. And right coast skiers summit locations should be considered, when it comes to locations of the summit. Mostly because we end up shouldering a much higher cost to just try to attend. So form of fairness needs to be reached.

[tibaher]

Originally posted by TJ.Brk
And right coast skiers summit locations should be considered, when it comes to locations of the summit. Mostly because we end up shouldering a much higher cost to just try to attend. So form of fairness needs to be reached.

whatever dude!
It's absurd to think we'd all want to destine ourselves to the east coast in hopes of hitting the pow>

MRG aside/////


think about it

[basom]

Originally posted by TJ.Brk

But if the summit were held at WB then many rightcoast maggots could attend because it would cost them less.


teej. seriously.
it seems to me that it may be cheeper for you personaly.

BTW, i havent seen you at either of the last to EC minis

[Karl Stall]

Originally posted by frozenwater
wowa...just read this thing.

Guys, I probably will have no problem being the main go to guy for this, with the help of those who have already offered.

My only fear is that my immediate future is pretty busy, moving - finishing old job, starting new job, finding a place to live ---little things.

I also take new jobs expecting to put in insane amounts of hours to catch up. I don't know what to expect at TGR yet really. I'm not sure if I would even be able to get out of work to ski during the summit.

Now, having told you my fears - if you cyber geeks can accept my limitations, and if I have Karl Stall as a right hand man, sprite doing the web, and others helping out where needed....

GULP

then I accept, I'll organize the hell out of this thing.

Also if I am going to do this, it is going to be in Jackson Hole - and probably should be in early Feb as per "the suits" recomendation.

F



It's done then! Just remember to make it snow, o.k.

[gincognito]

Originally posted by Karl Stall
It's done then! Just remember to make it snow, o.k.

Sweet! Let the Jackson stoke begin...

Sick and ashamed and happy (and refraining from replying to tj's apparent schizophrenia),
d.

[iceman]

Originally posted by iceman
I already gave Frozen the job, he just doesn't know it yet.

I was actually just kidding, but nice action, Fred!

[Cosmic Bandito]

Being an East Coaster and having never been to Jackson Hole, I am not raising my hand for any organizational duty.

With that said, I just called the Hostel X and inquired if we might be able to rent out the whole thingy for the first or second week of February.

I got a "no." However, the gentleman who answered the phone said that they still have a lot of room available during those time periods.

For what is is worth.

[Endlessseason]

Originally posted by TJ.Brk
A large expense burden is placed upon us right coast skiers.
Isn't that why peeps live on the EC in the first place? Your average income is higher than, say, the rocky mountain states. Use some of your extra income to come out west each year for the summit.

[non grata]

Originally posted by Endlessseason
Isn't that why peeps live on the EC in the first place? Your average income is higher than, say, the rocky mountain states. Use some of your extra income to come out west each year for the summit.

ya and there's a higher cost of livin too that sorta negates that pocket change. ;)

[basom]

Originally posted by Cosmic Bandito
Hostel X

check out what they have on reel to reel at the x:

We have many old and quite a few new ski movies, which we like to show at night during the ski season.

Old Movies on reel to reel projector:

The Mobius Flip
Ski The Outer Limits
Rendezvous in Jackson Hole
The Blizzard Of Aaahh's
Canadian Mountain Odessy
Ski The Deep Stuff
The Derby
Single Ski
Day Of Greatness
Quiet Ski
K2 Skiers
A Bit Of Madness
Heli High
Ski Movie #1
Rythms
Ski The Big Country
Winter Heat
The Style Of A Champion

[The AD]

Originally posted by TJ.Brk
A large expense burden is placed upon us right coast skiers. And sometimes people do not take that into account for us when summit sites are considered.

I really don't buy this. OK, those who can easily drive to JH will save some money, but a lot of us will fly whether we're on the east coast, west coast or somewhere in between. I seriously doubt the cost of airfare is much different to JH from, say New York than it is from Seattle or LA. Just keep your eyes peeled for good deals.

[Jiffy]

frozen (and others)...
was thinking last night of what i will & wont be able to do.
ill help you out.
i can check some leads i know of in the lodging and transportation world.
so exhale...it'll be allright.

[bagtagley]

So Jackson it is. Sweet, I call shotgun in Buzz's car!

When I was there it ended up being cheaper (for 2 people that is) to stay at a dirtbag motel than at the Hostel...FWIW.

[glademaster]

Im sure it will be an amazing summit in JH, but yet another one that I won't be able to attend.:(

Oh well. Are there any maggot minis planned for the 2nd or 3rd weeks of December next year, and where are they gonna be? I should at least try to make a mini sometime next season.

-Ben

[EPSkis]

Ok, somebody pull the trigger ~ What are the dates?

[iceman]

Originally posted by EPSkis
Ok, somebody pull the trigger ~ What are the dates?

Dude, it hasn't even been 24 hours since someone took charge of the thing, chill.

[basom]

iceman should determine the dates. not that he will come, but he picked the organizer, soo....

[EPSkis]

Originally posted by iceman
Dude, it hasn't even been 24 hours since someone took charge of the thing, chill.

DAMMIT Jim, we have an elected Leader now!
What's the HOLDUP?

(Ok, maybe not exact dates. Narrowing it down to the MONTH would be a start. The flock sayeth March maybe not so good?)

Perhaps I should cut back on the morning java? I'm on cup #3 in the office and started the day with a triple mocha for the drive in.

[Jiffy]

without a doubt Prez day weekend is the busiest of the year.
no es bueno in the lift lines.

[comish]

As bagtagley said (I'm making an assumption he stayed in town here), staying at a motel in the town of Jackson, a 30min drive to the village, is the cheapest option. Problem with that is that if it snows you are far from that early morning tram dock. Other possibly more significant problem is then you can't stumble home from the Moose. You will go drinkin in Wilson and the village more than town so there isn't any sort of advantage ot staying in town except price.

If you all pile into condo's at the village this can be fairly inexpensive as well (not town motel cheap, but...) Try to get some that are closer to the Tram so you don't have to rely on the village shuttle as its a bit of an arse. There is an online map that will show where they are and I'm happy to answer questions.

The cheapest way to get there is to fly into SLC and drive. That is what I have done the last 2 times there. Fly in, ski Alta for a day, then drive to JH. Its about 4-5 hours depending on weather.

Teej, for a canuck it might be cheaper to get to Vancouver than SLC/JH but for the rest there shouldn't be a big different in price. Unfortunately you choose to live on the east coast and therefore will have to deal with the flight and the inherent expense. Good luck convincing any maggot to fly east for a big summit. Having spent 4 years in VT. all I could think of was leaving to go to real snow/mtns. There is skiing and it is fun as all skiing is, but its not as good as the west.

JH can be done veerrry cheaply, I think cheaper than W/B so check it out. If you buy lift tickets through who ever you book you lodging from in advance you get a small (15%ish) discount so for a 6 day pass it gets cheaper, not cheap, but cheaper.

[Buzzworthy]

Originally posted by bagtagley
So Jackson it is. Sweet, I call shotgun in Buzz's car!

When I was there it ended up being cheaper (for 2 people that is) to stay at a dirtbag motel than at the Hostel...FWIW.

You got it!! (unless the wife comes, but that is highly doubtful)

[Karl Stall]

Weekend of February 5th through the weekend of Feb. 12th would me my suggestion. President's Day is the 21st.

[p-tex]

Open Outlook - Insert Summit dates. Feb 5 - 12.

Ding, ding, ding....

[basom]

226 days and counting

[Karl Stall]

My brother-in-law stayed at Hostel X last winter and found it to be one of the coolest off-slope experiences that he's had. It's true that you can stay in a motel in town (15 minutes from the village) for less, but POWDER Magazine cited Hostel X as the best ski hostel in the U.S., and certainly the closest to lifts of any.


If people want to book, check out their website at www.hostelx.com (http://).

If snow cooperates, this summit is going to be fucking sweet, and even if it doesn't it'll be sick. Chinese Downhill down No Name, after a little party in the quasi-cave.

[Buster Highmen]

If you find loud drunks at 2:00 am disturbing to your beauty rest, request a valley view room at the Hostel.

[teledave]

Somebody had to do it......

[Cue Johnny Cash]
We got married in a fever, hotter than a pepper sprout,
We've been talkin' 'bout Jackson, ever since the fire went out.
I'm goin' to Jackson, I'm gonna mess around,
Yeah, I'm goin' to Jackson,
Look out Jackson town.

Well, go on down to Jackson; go ahead and wreck your health.
Go play your hand you big-talkin' man, make a big fool of yourself,
Yeah, go to Jackson; go comb your hair!
Honey, I'm gonna snowball Jackson.
See if I care.

When I breeze into that city, people gonna stoop and bow. (Hah!)
All them women gonna make me, teach 'em what they don't know how,
I'm goin' to Jackson, you turn-a loose-a my coat.
'Cos I'm goin' to Jackson.
"Goodbye," that's all she wrote.

But they'll laugh at you in Jackson, and I'll be dancin' on a Pony Keg.
They'll lead you 'round town like a scalded hound,
With your tail tucked between your legs,
Yeah, go to Jackson, you big-talkin' man.
And I'll be waitin' in Jackson, behind my Jaypan Fan,

Well now, we got married in a fever, hotter than a pepper Sprout,
We've been talkin' 'bout Jackson, ever since the fire went.
I'm goin' to Jackson, and that's a fact.
Yeah, we're goin' to Jackson, ain't never comin' back.

Well, we got married in a fever, hotter than a pepper sprout'
And we've been talkin' 'bout Jackson, ever since the fire went...

[/Johnny Cash]

[TJ.Brk]

Originally posted by basom
teej. seriously.
it seems to me that it may be cheeper for you personaly.

BTW, i havent seen you at either of the last to EC minis

Well airfare out of NY the cheapest I found was around $600. If I drive to Detroit I could get a ticket for $489. I'll keep searching, but I seriously doubt I could make it because of airfare costs. Won't do the driving bit again.

I could fly out of Montreal to Vancover for $289USD. So if there is a mini at Whistler I most likely do that. And I saw airfares from NY to Vancover around the $400USD mark.

I couldn't make the mini last year because I was guiding the Frederick Ski Club around that week. (Yes we do have some killer OB terrain here. You can hike and do about 5 laps in a day on Johanson Peak. Johanson Peak is also 400' higher than Tremblant and gets about double the snow because it sits in its own little weather pattern ). I plan on hitting the ECMini at JayPeak this year. Let me know ahead of time and I'll swipe a bunch of lift tickets at costco up here for $40CAD for people. :cool:

[cololi]

I am stating it for the record, right now, that I have absolutely no excuse NOT to make it to JH. Unless, of course, something comes up.

[basom]

Originally posted by TJ.Brk
Well airfare out of NY the cheapest I found was around $600. If I drive to Detroit I could get a ticket for $489. I'll keep searching, but I seriously doubt I could make it because of airfare costs. Won't do the driving bit again.

I could fly out of Montreal to Vancover for $289USD. So if there is a mini at Whistler I most likely do that. And I saw airfares from NY to Vancover around the $400USD mark.

just seems to me that you could make that two hundred extra dollars picking cans out of recycling bins for a month. or not buying any booze for a month or two. or eating ramen for a few weeks. if you want i will post a poll for the best way for teej to raise two hundie. bake sale anyone?

[bagtagley]

Originally posted by Karl Stall
My brother-in-law stayed at Hostel X last winter and found it to be one of the coolest off-slope experiences that he's had. It's true that you can stay in a motel in town (15 minutes from the village) for less, but POWDER Magazine cited Hostel X as the best ski hostel in the U.S., and certainly the closest to lifts of any.


Hmm, I wasn't aware that there was a Hostel in Jackson Hole Village. I was referring to the Hostel in Jackson the town.

[teledave]

HostelX Winter Rates:
$55 1 or 2 persons
$68 3 or 4 persons

Rates are per room!
68/4=17.00 per person
I think I can afford that.

[TJ.Brk]

Originally posted by basom
just seems to me that you could make that two hundred extra dollars picking cans out of recycling bins for a month.

Sorry I'm not a baglady.

or not buying any booze for a month or two

Already done that. Read any drucken tirades lately.

. or eating ramen for a few weeks.

I've been eating ramen for decades. Believe me we pinch every penny we can. I just don't have the $1500 for JH. I'm sure that there are many maggots that would love to be able to attend, but won't be able to because of cost issues.

[basom]

okay, teej. thats fine. 200 may be too much money for you to raise in 200 plus days.

if jackson is gonna cost an ec mag 1500. and the main difference is the airfare. whats WB gonna cost? 1250-1300? just doesnt seem like that big of a difference for a guy.

[iceman]

T.J., advance fares from Manchester to Salt Lake are $179 each way on Southwest. Took me less than two minutes to find that fare.

Boston to Salt Lake on the exact dates is $336.00 roundtrip on America West. Another two minutes.

Montreal to Salt Lake roundtrip is $365.00 roundtrip on American. Another two minutes.

[Buster Highmen]

Look, TJ is right. The issue is cost. What's the matter with you people, can't you see that? I feel that TJ is being unfairly treated here, because I know. There was this time, see when I was attacked by a turkey and I didn't know any better, but now I absolutely hate turkeys. I hate them for you. So you all had better listen up because right is right because I said so, OK?

[Crinkle]

http://www.jackson-hole-rental-homes.com/

http://res.jacksonholelodging.net/

http://www.jacksonholewy.net/lodging/jh_vacation_rental_condos.php

http://www.jacksonhole.net/


here is a google start to searching for condo, etc.

[CantDog]

TJ, I flew from boston to slc for 200 bucks round trip in march, buying the tickets about a month before. Similar fares were available from manchester as well as burlington. If a bunch of folks get together and rent a home ala the summit this year, lodging will also be dirt cheap...and you have a kitchen to cook, further reducing costs. The most expensive part is lift tickets, but then there is targee not too far away, and I'm sure you can find some touring gear to borrow for a day-if you have a 317 boot sole then you can borrow mine.

My two week trip with 12 days of skiing cost me 600 bucks for everything, and that was with several dinners out and a few nights in hotels.

You could sell some of your bats, when I was there you had a ton.


Teej, you're a smart guy, I'm sure you'll be able to figure out how to swing it. You've got 200+ days to plan, and there are a slew of other folks who will be doing the same.

[Ski Monkey]

Jackson, sweet.

Dates....
My best time is right after new years, right before sundance film festival so I can get away from my company for a few days. :D

Seriously, I say pres. day weekend is a no go. Not sure how jackson is, but that's park city's busiest weekend. I hate lift lines especially when it's not my home mountain and I'm paying for tickets. Sometime in early Feb may be the best while pushing the utah mini to early march.

[sandytheskier]

We should stick to one summit. Isn't that hard enough to get everyone to go to, plus people will only want the hassle of one trip (if they are far away).
Buzz good point on the conflicting summits. Hmmm. Maybe a spring trip in whistler would be better?;) ;)

[crashnburn'd]

How about a January Summit, shall we say sometime before January 20th? If not you're all welcome to come to a MN slummit ;) You can even stay at my house....

[Ski Monkey]

Originally posted by crashnburn'd
If not you're all welcome to come to a MN slummit ;)

Skiing there for 10 years was enough thank you very much. ;)

[crashnburn'd]

14 years skiing there, I finally get one away only to be sucked right back because I need to finish school. It's a pretty cool, there's even a cliff that you can hit if you duck a rope. You're missing out man ;)

[joshbu]

Well, as soon as the dates are nailed, I can start working on an official PacNW airfare group buy. We should be able to save some bread by applying some group purchasing power.

Also, TJ. I liked skiing with you at Retallack. I'll kick in 20 bones to the send TJ to Jackson fund, if it would help...

[TJ.Brk]

Sure you can get a deal just flying to salt lake city. But then you are dependent upon maggots shuttling you up to JH. And that may, or may not be available. So you have to budget in airfare into Jackson. That is where it gets you.

And it's alittle difficult after you are recovering from a fire to say to your wife. "umm babe can I go blow over 1K for a ski trip". NO will come quickly. Because the insurance fucked us. I'm not meaning to whine about it. But on a fiscal reality WB would be functional for me to do. Trust me I would be there in a heart beat if I had the cash.

And Cantdog I have touring gear. Thanks for the offer though.

[TJ.Brk]

Originally posted by basom
okay, teej. thats fine. 200 may be too much money for you to raise in 200 plus days.

if jackson is gonna cost an ec mag 1500. and the main difference is the airfare. whats WB gonna cost? 1250-1300? just doesnt seem like that big of a difference for a guy.


I get 50% off on lodging/lifts/cat skiing unrestricted at WB.

[TJ.Brk]

Originally posted by joshbu
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Also, TJ. I liked skiing with you at Retallack.

Same to you man. God that was an incredible day. Definately one of my top 5 all time days. :D

[powderwhore]

I'll be there for sure. Hostel X here I come!

[bagtagley]

Originally posted by Buster Highmen
So you all had better listen up because right is right because I said so, OK?

Actually, I think Billy Jean Davy said that. Or was it fair is fair? Nevermind.